[Reader-list] Crime and No Punishment: Malegaon Blast Accused Get a Respite

[Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi]

Dear Javed,
and all in the list,

  none would like to have the encounter deaths of the deviant in any faith
of the society as it only reflects the aberration of law keepers being not
accountable to the society, in general, in particular to human rights of
rule of laws.

 But your observation of flimsy grounds is very flimsy as all the detainees
have gone thru the investigations, narco tests several times, worst, the
investigation could not find any "evidence" other than a motor bike sold,
which I hope you also might have sold and the person who bought it did not
complete the formality of registering it in new buyers name.

When communal NGOs cry foul when some deviants are detained is also absurd,
as if no evidence is found it is only fit that such have to be released
forthwith.
     .Jamianagar incident which created so much public outcry, now the
Solidarity of teachers having a demo for the protest against encounters is
again communal as their post talks of "Muslim youth" and not about the youth
in society who have fallen to bullets. This is where the movement becomes
sectarian, does not become inclusive protest for the rights of all, as if
only rights of "muslim youth" are violated, not of the youth in Manipur, or
else where.

 Unless this attitude by the "teachers" who are on the rolls of jamia thinks
of inclusive rights of all in the society, it is absurd and it only
highlights the plight of the innocents getting ignored by the elite tv space
grabbers.

Regards.

Rajen.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Taha and others
> I actually don't care about RSS hating or loving any one. My main aim
> of this post was to show how our judiciary and police is so biased. On
> one hand so many Muslim youth are being arrested and killed in
> encounter deaths in the name of terrorism, but the accused of the
> Malegaon blast are relieved on flimsy grounds. I remember that even an
> investigative journalist like Praveen Swami (who keeps inventing new
> intricate modus operandi of "Indian Mujahideen" and so on) accepted in
> his rare essay that the Hindu terrorism exists and the Malegaon blast
> was just a tip of the iceberg.
>
> So, my question is: why this prejudice by the judiciary?
>
> J
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Taha
> Mehmood<2tahamehmood at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Rajen,
> >
> > I think you are absolutely correct. RSS do not hate Muslims. RSS is a
> > mere name of an organization. A name is incapable of showing any
> > emotion against or for any social group.
> >
> > However, lets us revisit some of the pearls of wisdom which were
> > uttered by great thinkers, which many contemporary members of RSS
> > simply love to read.
> >
> > I would like to regard Veer Vinayak Damodar Savarkar as one of them
> > and I am sure you will join me, in this acknowledgment.
> >
> > This is what  Veer Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, had to say about so
> > called, 'Religious Bigotry of Indian Muslims'-
> >
> > " It is useless to declare only the Muslim league as communal. It is
> > not news, it is a reality, that the entire Muslim community is embed
> > in the spirit of communalism'
> >
> >  [ Rana, B.S. 2004. Veer Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, p127 ]
> >
> > Then there was venerable Guruji. Whose love for Muslims was legendary.
> > This is what Madhav Sadashiv Ggolwalkar aka Guruji had to say about
> > followers of Islam in India:
> >
> > They [Muslims] have also developed a feeling of identification with
> > the enemies of this land. They look to some foreign lands as their
> > holy places. They call them selves Sheikhs and Sayeds...They still
> > think they have come here to conquer and establish their kingdoms. So
> > we see it not only as a change of faith and as a change of national
> > identity. What else it is, if not treason, to join the camp of enemy,
> > leaving the mother nation in the lurch.
> >
> > [words of Guruji- as cited in, Basu, T. 1993. Khaki Shorts and Saffron
> > Flags. p28 ]
> >
> > Here's another account of goodness of Gurujee with respect to Muslims.
> > I take the honor and privilege of citing the text below, directly from
> > the official website of the BJP. We all know of course, how members of
> > the BJP has time and again shown to every one, how much they care
> > deeply about Muslims. The text below relates to what many members of
> > the BJP like to call its core philosophy, which goes by a rather fuzzy
> > name called- Integral Humanism.
> >
> > The text pertains to a lecture delivered to many thousands of patriots
> > by venerable Pandit Deendayal Upadhyaya, on April 22-25, 1965. Here
> > Panditjee, is trying to tell us about, distinctions about individual
> > versus society and as a way of illustration, cites a conversation
> > which, according to Upadhyaya jee,  happened between Shri Vinobaji and
> > the Sar Sanghachalak of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, Shri Guruji,
> >
> > -Let me give you an illustration. Once during a conversation between
> > Shri Vinobaji and the Sar Sanghachalak of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh,
> > Shri Guruji, a question arose as to where the modes of thinking of
> > Hindus and Muslims differ. Guruji said to Vinobaji that there are good
> > and bad people in every society. There can be found honest and good
> > people in Hindus as well as in Muslims. Similarly rascals can be seen
> > in both the societies. No particular society has a monopoly of
> > goodness. However, it is observed that Hindus even if they are rascals
> > in individual life, when they come together in a group, they always
> > think of good things. On the other hand when two Muslims come
> > together, they propose and approve of things which they themselves in
> > their individual capacity would not even think of. They start thinking
> > in an altogether different way. This is an everyday experience.
> > Vinobaji admitted that there was truth in this observation but had no
> > reasons to explain it.-
> >
> > [ Upadhyaya, D.D. 1965. integral Humanism. Individual versus Society.
> > url-  http://www.bjp.org/content/view/444/396/  ]
> >
> > Such was the clarity of TRUTH that Vinobaji did not even think about
> > reasons for explaining it.
> >
> > Javed, considering the above thoughts, I sincerely feel you must
> > reconsider your comments. Rajen is absolutely correct in my opinion.
> > RSS does not hate Muslims or Christians. People associated with the
> > RSS merely think that Musilms are traitors, Muslims are communal,
> > Muslims are divisive as a community. But of course that does not mean,
> > they HATE Muslims. Hate, I think, is a particularly strong word to
> > define a relationship you see. For the time being, I think, I would
> > rather go by Karan Johar's insightful words, 'kuch rishtyon ka naam
> > nahi hota, woh bas hoteain hain'
> >
> > Warm regards
> >
> > Taha
> >
>



-- 
Rajen.