[Reader-list] Shopain ( kashmir ) Murder and Rape

Wed Dec 16 21:12:14 IST 2009

Dear Inder ji

With all due respect, yes I agree that our nation-state has not fulfilled
many of its' goals since independence. It has forgotten the man whom it has
crowned the Father of the Nation. Not only that, it has forgotten the very
ideals and dreams it had sold to its people in the name of creating it. And
today, all those lie in despair, as if something has been raped and beaten
black and blue. Probably our hopes. Probably our honour and dignity.
Probably our enthusiasm. Something else as well.

Having said that, as I said, sentiments can be respected, but these
sentiments must be backed by facts. I still request you to kindly provide
news headlines and other clippings at least, if no report, of the kind which
can certainly put the point across that there has been mishandling of the
cases and that the CBI report is not worth what it is claimed to be.

As for keeping pressure, we certainly must keep pressure. I feel that Indian
democracy is not a democracy, but simply an autocracy where people have
simply gifted their so-called representatives a chance to loot and rape the
country's resources as much as they can, and sell it off like prostitutes.
We haven't realized it ourselves. And before I sound off like a Leftist, let
me claim that even the Left in India has done the same thing, like the Right
and the Centre.

Any democracy is actually a democracy when citizens engage themselves in the
day-to-day activities of the govt. and the state. That has been completely
lacking, and when I say that, it's not only the rich and the middle classes
which have not engaged themselves. Even the poor can share that part of the
blame. It's time we wake up from our slumber, wherever we are. Otherwise, I
don't know about being a world power (and I hardly care), but we are going
to be the country with the largest no. of world poor, largest no. of people
suffering from malnutrition, anaemia, TB and AIDS, and the country with
largest scale of corruption as well. And we would deserve it, like it or
not.

Rakesh

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Rakesh ji
>
> This is not a first murder mystery in the world and neither it will be
> the last. Women just happen to be the most vulnerable, we all know.
> See how the media and adminstration talked about hymen theory, as if a
> it is the only proof to be a virgin.
>
> What saddened me time and again is the fact that the Sate tries  to
> prove its efficiency by saying things that are not there. That happens
> always in the court. Dont we know how many times innocent people were
> charged. Dont we know how evidence is created by the police to nail
> the so called culprit.  Dont we know how police can release the most
> lethal one one pretext or the other. There is a law always, which is
> so imperfect, and tilted towards the powerful.
>
> for me the entire system of forensic process that helps the police to
> arrive at the conclusion is problematic too.  Here, i wont go in the
> question of what is crime and what is nature of  the fabric  our
> socities are made up of. .....but  here it is the  quetion of how the
> adminstration tries to give the verdict, even when the system at hand
> is inadequate.
>
> it was prudent on the part the Govt in Kashmir or CBI to say simply
> that we dont know,  The theory of drowing is the most stupid thing to
> say, and by cricizing that , one cant not  be labelled as anti-indian.
>
> In routine, we both are beneficiaries of the Indian State, and i
> beleive some friends in Kashmir who  also happn to criticize the CBI
> verdict perhaps are much bigger  beneficieries than both of us, but
> the question is why the State tries to play God.
>
> This is where the concept of God, who by our common knowledge knows
> all, and we expect him to tell us all about our destines, and he also
> helps us through its representatives in our respectives belief
> systems, and sometimes through the State organs. Right.
>
> This is how it functions, It does not surprise me, but it surprises
> those who think about power in a limited way. I beleive that State is
> truely very powerful and can commit such  mistakes, and can even
> justify these mistakes IN THE INTEREST OF THE STATE
>
> We have forgiven Kings in the past, we will forgive our present day
> systems as well, which is not differnet from the loopholes of the past
> , which plagued the masses..... always, in the past, in the present.
>
> Just keep the pressure, that is the only way out, else we look like a
> herd of sheep
>
> with love and regards
>
> inder salim
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Inder ji
> >
> > When I asked you for whether there was any evidence or any thing against
> the report legally, here's a fact which seems in my mind as doubtful, which
> has been raised by the CBI report.
> >
> > Here it is, along with the article:
> >
> > http://telegraphindia.com/1091216/jsp/frontpage/story_11871616.jsp
> >
> > Shockers in CBI report
> > - Doctor claimed she used own smear: Agency
> > MUZAFFAR RAINA
> >
> > Srinagar, Dec. 15: The CBI report in the Shopian case has sucked six
> doctors — most of them alumni of a prestigious medical college — into a
> maelstrom rarely seen in India.
> >
> > Among the listed charges — so incendiary that a court-imposed media gag
> was in place till yesterday — is a claim that a doctor at one point told the
> CBI that she had used her own vaginal smear in an attempt to reaffirm the
> perception that two women were raped and murdered at Shopian in Kashmir.
> >
> > The central investigative agency had concluded in the
> chargesheet-cum-report that the two women had drowned — a claim greeted with
> incredulity and violence in the Valley today.
> >
> > If the CBI report springs any hole under microscopic scrutiny, the
> charges levelled have the potential to ignite an unparalleled scandal that
> will put the country’s investigation system under global glare.
> >
> > Perhaps aware of the implications, the CBI has included exhaustive
> details in its report.
> >
> > Referring to the deposition of Nighat Shaheen, a 40-year-old lady doctor,
> the CBI report says: “Dr Nighat has not truthfully revealed the source of
> the vaginal smears used for making the slides, as she has made false
> statements, initially to the effect that the slides had been prepared by her
> in Pulwama hospital on 31-5-2009 by using two gloves lying in the dustbin of
> her room, and later that she had prepared them of her own vaginal smear
> using a glove lying in the dustbin of her room.”
> >
> > However, the CBI report adds, the claim was found to be untrue. “The
> second statement has also proved to be false as per the report of CFSL
> (Central Forensic Science Laboratory), CBI, New Delhi, which did not find
> any match between the DNA profiles generated from the blood samples obtained
> from Nighat and her husband, and those present on the slides.”
> >
> > Shopian, 50km from Srinagar, used to be part of Pulwama – where Nighat
> worked – before becoming a separate district. Shopian has been on the boil
> since May 29, when the two women were reported missing and later found dead.
> >
> > Five of the chargesheeted doctors — Ghulam Mohammad Paul, 59, then chief
> medical officer of Pulwama, Ghulam Qadir Sofi, 56, then deputy medical
> superintendent, Bilal Ahmad Dalal, 40, assistant surgeon, Mohammad Maqbool
> Mir, 54, then district health officer and Nighat — have graduated from the
> prestigious Government Medical College in Srinagar. Nighat is also a
> postgraduate in gynaecology. The sixth, Nazia Hassan, 30, completed her MBBS
> from the premier SKIMS Medical College in Srinagar.
> >
> > Bilal and Nazia were posted at the Shopian district hospital on May 30,
> when the bodies of Neelofar, 22, and her sister-in-law Asiya, 17, were
> brought for post-mortem. The CBI charges the two doctors with submitting
> four different post-mortem reports.
> >
> > The CBI report accuses the other four of fabricating evidence. “…It has
> been conclusively established… that the slides sent for scientific
> examination were fabricated by Dr Nighat with active connivance of Dr Ghulam
> Qadir Sofi, Dr Maqbool Mir and Dr Ghulam Mohammad Paul…. Dr Nighat Shaheen
> was examined repeatedly on the issue of the source of the slides but she did
> not reveal it,” says the report.
> >
> > On the basis of the fabricated evidence, five policemen were jailed but
> the CBI has given them a clean chit.
> >
> > The investigations say Bilal and Nazia had claimed to have performed a
> floatation test of lungs but the viscera showed they were pieces of heart.
> “…the piece of viscera preserved by Dr Bilal as lungs of Neelofar has
> actually been found to be of pieces of heart,” says the report.
> >
> > The government has already suspended Bilal and Nighat. Paul has retired
> and Nazia has resigned.
> >
> > One of the accused doctors, who refused to be named, said: “There was
> (sexual) assault on the ladies. I wanted to be part of the exhumation but
> they (CBI) refused. The slides were not fudged but made from the gloves used
> on those ladies. The CBI has tortured me all through.”
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://indersalim.livejournal.com
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