[Reader-list] Fw: Baba Ramdev claims Yoga has a cure...

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 16:54:46 IST 2009 

Dear Aditya,

First of all, your understanding about yoga is deplorable. Second, this
defence that you are trying to put up for Baba Ramdev and his followers
shows how well you understand yoga and mass hypnosis spread with television.
in case if u plan to state that so many number of people being cured by that
quack, then there are a couple of witch doctors who are helping out
government departments and NGOs in Vadodara who unlike Ramdev eating on air
time of TV channels, are doing their best to educate people in tribal areas
of chota udepur to get medicine treatment for HIV. Because the villagers
would not listen to a modern day doctor so the medicines have to be
administered with the help of witch doctors.your knowledge of indian
society is limited only to drawing room discussions of middle class Hindu
ignorant household where sexual repression manisfests itself like a
disease. you are a typical case of the Indian version of american
nincompoop. so i sympathise you my friend.

and perversions do exist. that 50 women since jan to june 2009 from Hindu
Gujarati Families were raped by brothers or fathers proves it even more
(says a latest TOI report) .

-with warmest regards
anupam




On 7/10/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Anupam
>
> With such remarks I'm sure even you would like to be one soon some day.
> Well, if you really want to practice Yoga, I'm sure Baba Ramdev hasn't
> pulled your neck towards Hardwar, you sure can do it yourself. Spreading
> imaginary rumours about Baba Ramdev would be insane of you. It qualifies
> you
> as a joker with no 'sense or understanding'. You have proved your
> disability
> openly on sarai today.
>
> I don't know Baba Ramdev personally. He certainly has lakhs of followers
> worldwide, your disagreeing with him won't do any harm. You may continue to
> live in dreams and spread rumours and hatred. But, I know for sure how rich
> Homosexual brats sexually abuse children in India. Its all game of money.
> Maybe you should take some inspiration form them.. isn't it ?
>
> Love
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:23 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Aditya,
> >
> > Looks like you have not heard about the perversion of Yogis. I think you
> > should Body as a Temple where how perverted yogis start with three wives,
> > move on to animals, then finally with inanimate objects. this was
> described
> > by a telugu poet of 12th century about yogis and the perverse habits. i
> am
> > sure baba ramdev aspires to become one. kindly ask your whacko baba,
> which
> > nostril is better to snort cocaine. he will tell you all about it with
> > pranayama. patanjali yoga is to be experienced with a guru who has
> reached
> > derived siddhi and the one who is beyond all aspirations. your ideas of
> > yoga
> > being a desi marketable product which is being done by this ramdev and
> > bandwagon reflects what understanding you have about larger indian
> society.
> >
> > -regards
> > anupam
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > One needs to understand that it isn't just another Baba, Maulvi or a
> > > father.
> > > It is the larger Indian Society. One shouldn't shut their eyes to this
> > > fact.
> > >
> > >
> > > Moreover, the major debate is on legalization, most of the common
> people
> > > have consensus on decriminalization.
> > >
> > > @ Inder 'Converted' Salim
> > >
> > > Your immaturity again makes me laugh. May Baba Ramdev bless you.
> > >
> > > Do some 'Pranayama'. It may help you. It doesn't only help Hindus. It
> > helps
> > > Homosexuals too. Just everybody.
> > >
> > > Hope the DESI dosage helps your case.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM, vaid theite <dnyan21 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Afterall, question remains, how to 'convince' people like Baba who
> say
> > > that
> > > > it is not natural. I mean could be posit an argument saying
> > homosexuality
> > > is
> > > > natural?
> > > >
> > > > In which ways, we could re-articulate history of sexual relations in
> > > > anthropology, I think.
> > > >
> > > > Counter-argument: will it be 're-articulation'?
> > > >
> > > > Dnyan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Baba Ramdev claims Yoga has a
> cure...
> > > > > To: "subhrodip sengupta" <sub_sengupta at yahoo.co.in>
> > > > > Cc: "Readers list Yousuf Sarai." <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > > > > Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 1:46 AM
> > > > > Since people have raised the question
> > > > > of homosexuality not being natural, I
> > > > > would also like to know what is this 'natural'. In their
> > > > > evolution, human
> > > > > beings must have killed animals, and now continue to do so
> > > > > (though mostly in
> > > > > the name of poaching). Is that natural, or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Women would have not been subjected to marriage in very
> > > > > early history of
> > > > > existence of human beings, but now they do marry. Is that
> > > > > natural?
> > > > >
> > > > > There must have been a time when it must have been decided
> > > > > that women have
> > > > > to stay in 'purdah' by someone. At that moment of time,
> > > > > would that have been
> > > > > natural?
> > > > >
> > > > > The biggest problem is that one can't be sure whether
> > > > > something is natural
> > > > > or not. What is only natural, is change. Change has to take
> > > > > place with time,
> > > > > and changes do occur. And as for homosexuality being
> > > > > natural or not, if the
> > > > > scriptures of the 'Hindu religion' have content on it and
> > > > > these scriptures
> > > > > are quite old, then obviously by your definition, they
> > > > > can't be considered
> > > > > 'natural'.
> > > > >
> > > > > The correct statement should be that homosexuals are in a
> > > > > minority in India,
> > > > > and it's not the mainstream practiced custom in India. That
> > > > > is certainly
> > > > > true as of now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Rakesh
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