[Reader-list] Present list of BPL families a flawed one, says report- 156

Fri Jul 24 18:16:28 IST 2009

Dear all, there was a mistake in my post, after re-reading the news, thanks
to TOI, here is the correction, BPL cards in Karnataka are 1.65 crores.
Error is regretted, hope the list will reconcile.

Regards,

Rajen.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> hey, hey, may be the statstics have included the floating population into
> the cities of  the state, who are also deemed poor.!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rajen,
>> I think there is some error in the computation or that the number of
>> people below BPL or the population of Karnataka is wrongly given as 550
>> lakhs. 1.65 lakh BPL cards multiplied by 5 persons per family should be
>> around 8.25 lakhs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> V Murali
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
>> rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All and Taha,
>>>     humans endeavour  is to work, work with accuracy, but the greed,
>>> status, power make things go wrong in the work done.? Check any data of
>>> any
>>> federal state irrespective of the political party ruling that state, one
>>> can
>>> easily know that the BPL list is all wrong, genuine beneficiaries are not
>>> in
>>> the list to get the essential commodities,the caste, faith and regional
>>> affiliation of that reseidential area has had an impact while making the
>>> list of eligible beneficiaries.
>>>
>>>  Karnataka has 1.65 lakh BPL cards with average of 5 individuals as its
>>> family members in each of this cards. The population of karnataka is
>>> appxly,
>>> 550 lakhs, which means every person living in Karnataka is below poverty
>>> line.! Our dear nandu, narayana Murthy, Premji all are poor by this
>>> statisrics.! Ofcourse none of them may have the BPL cards, but census is
>>> mere game with numbers when it is only for pleasing the votebanks.!
>>>
>>> Unless there is political will to have good governance and citizens rise
>>> above the hypocracy of having the cake and eating it too with exclusive
>>> policies, this is bound to happen as human mind works for survival, far
>>> better than any technology.!
>>>
>>> Take the cost of running the system of democratic rule, parliament spends
>>> Rs.26,000/- per minute, I was told by men in media, the president has to
>>> be
>>> kept in the Rastrapatni Bhavan at a cost of 6.5 crores, the useless
>>> politicians have to be protected with security at a cost of 550 crores
>>> per
>>> annum, with all this wastage of public money and additional waste of
>>> expenditure on "free and fair" elections to elect goons and murderers as
>>> our
>>> elected representatives, do we need democracy at all.?
>>>
>>>  But the issue here is freedom , freedom to talk, express, that we have
>>> as
>>> we have democratic rule with all its shortcomings.!
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Rajen.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Taha Mehmood
>>> <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear All
>>> >
>>> > Now that UIDC is on the anvil we are told that BPL list is flawed.
>>> > Just as with a introduction of a new technology older technologies are
>>> > discarded so as with Nandan Nilekani assuming office last Thursday and
>>> > with the idea of UIDC gaining some form  the perception with respect
>>> > to the efficacy of BPL/AAY and other lists is dwindling.
>>> >
>>> > However old and new are not static terms. They are dynamic. What is
>>> > old now must have new once similarly what is new today will become old
>>> > in not too distant a future.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to think that just as there seems to be a euphoria
>>> > amongst various sections of the industry and some departments of the
>>> > government of India regarding UIDC so as there must have been a lot of
>>> > excitement some sixty years ago when the then government of India must
>>> > have sought to introduce a 'new' scheme to identity all the people
>>> > living Below the poverty line  and genuinely contribute to make
>>> > poverty history.
>>> >
>>> >  It's another matter that BPL could not cut the mustard. Will it be
>>> > another matter, in another age, maybe sixty years from now when we
>>> > will realize the UIDC too couldn't get it right?
>>> >
>>> > Warm regards
>>> >
>>> > Taha
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Jaipur/Present-list-of-BPL-families-a-flawed-one-says-report/articleshow/4804814.cms
>>> >
>>> > Present list of BPL families a flawed one, says report
>>> > TNN 22 July 2009, 04:26am IST
>>> >
>>> > JAIPUR: The method used for identification of Below Poverty Line (BPL)
>>> > families should be drastically revised in all states and Union
>>> > Territories
>>> > as the present BPL list is a flawed one, observed an expert group
>>> > appointed by the Union rural development ministry here on Tuesday.
>>> >
>>> > At a core group meeting to discuss the issues concerning indicators of
>>> > Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) with special reference to health
>>> > and education in Rajasthan, N C Saxena, former secretary, Planning
>>> > Commission and chairman of the expert group on "Estimation of poverty
>>> > and identification of BPL households in Rural India" said that the
>>> > percentage of people entitled to BPL status should be drastically
>>> > revised upwards to at least 50%, though the calorie norm of 2400 would
>>> > demand this figure to be 80%.
>>> >
>>> > According to the monthly bulletin of the food ministry, there are more
>>> > than 10.5 crore BPL/AAY cards in the country, which would account for
>>> > roughly 53 crore people, said Saxena. This figure is very close to
>>> > what his group is recommending. According to Saxena, a gross error of
>>> > exclusion and inclusion has crept into the BPL list because of "flawed
>>> > methodology" followed in the past. Multiple lists created confusion
>>> > and also lead to administrative corruption. "One Panchayat one list"
>>> > should be goal for the government, he observed.
>>> >
>>> > The meeting was attended by senior officials of state, planning
>>> > department, representatives of UN bodies, experts and researchers. The
>>> > meeting was chaired by additional chief secretary (development) Alka
>>> > Kala.
>>> >
>>> > The identification of BPL families in the state will be done from
>>> > August 2009 to January 2010, over a six month period. In case it is
>>> > delayed beyond January 2010, it would be difficult to get enough staff
>>> > to complete the process as the work for Census 2011 would have begun
>>> > by then, which require huge manpower.
>>> >
>>> > Saxena, while discussing the MDG targets and challenges said that
>>> > national poverty reduction programmes are under the spotlight more
>>> > than ever before. He said that BPL list is of enormous importance to
>>> > Union and state governments as well as the rural population at large.
>>> > The total number of people to be included and the criteria for
>>> > inclusion is central to poverty alleviation. He suggested that
>>> > panchayat-wise number of the poor should be declared by the district
>>> > authorities.
>>> >
>>> > Additional chief secretary Alka Kala emphasised that women empowerment
>>> > and nurturing of children are major concerns in the social service
>>> > sector. The question of maternal mortality rate (MMR) -- which is one
>>> > goal of MDGs with respect to Rajasthan -- is faring badly. She said
>>> > that women's health suffers right from childhood - she is
>>> > malnourished, underweight and anaemic and has not been reached by the
>>> > public health system.
>>> >
>>> > The meeting was attended by Gurjot Kaur, principal secretary,
>>> > planning, Mira Mahrishi, principal secretary, women and child
>>> > development, R K Meena, principal secretary, medical and health
>>> > sciences and senior officials. Reports of three convergence districts,
>>> > prepared by the district collectors of Sawai Madhopur, Barmer and
>>> > Udaipur, were also presented and various indicators were discussed.
>>> >
>>> > Rajasthan UNICEF chief Samuel Muwunganidz and state programme
>>> > coordinator of UNFPA Sunil Thomas Jacob emphasized on improving the
>>> > infrastructure and generating awareness among the local communities to
>>> > enable them to get the benefits of various developmental schemes.
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>
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> Rajen.
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-- 
Rajen.