[Reader-list] Fw: [re:] MNIC: Thanks for bringing a spectre!

[subhrodip sengupta]

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From: subhrodip sengupta <sub_sengupta at yahoo.co.in>
To: Taha Mehmood <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 1:08:04 PM
Subject: [re:] MNIC: Thanks for bringing a spectre!


Tahaji,
         Actually people here are out to attack each other for no reason. About questions and answers.  Well nobody here claimed to be a policy maker or even an acitvist. But one must agree that repeated mailing Spams, not a comment on anybody, again! I believe people here are sensible and do register point once and as far as retention is concerned, and their mailboxes can store mails. Why do you feel frustrated if someone asks what to do next? Going on harping the same discontment again and again amounts to trying to justify the tyranny of nation state in degree, and is some extent frustrating. Thats what I've said. What I did not care to add is that people on this list have pre-concieved notion. You and I might be aware that use of the word 'conform' is not democratic but a leftist at least a revolutionary propaganda, conform to what? Arre, who says spectres do not exist, can you falsify their existance more than u can mine?
 America's most wanted person, BIN LADEN is a spectre, after all.
Was having a bad time  ever since the frequency and variety of posting declined, albeit, the variety was widened b4 it went down with frequency of mails. Well, I have resorted to blogging, that lets us Hello each other and gives freedom which a mailing list can not afford! Hota hain, Hota hain! But less lasting than Great Indian recession. 
Yeh sarkar strong hain, matlaab moti chamri se banaya hui hain, Moti matlaab impermiable. Ask questions and they will show all wastage as R&D costs. If we cannot admit our flaws, how can the politicians. Hopefully ther is another way round. The corruption, and issuance of false ID's. Again there has always been a RAW under the cabinet secretariat not subject to suditing. So this doesn't work either. What about the identity alloted by some agency,as well as personal identity? How does identity involve new rights as well. Shall the government be able to resist such prsssures?IN this list we expres our concerns, our views, and off course our studies and endeavours. I found repeated mailing a bad thing and u objected to my frustrating comments. Both are distinct stands, as the stand on issuance of MNIC and stand on terrorism, a convergance is always for a purpose. 

Subhrodip.       



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From: Taha Mehmood <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>
To: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Sarai Reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>; Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net>
Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 5:45:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] News Items posted on the net on Multipurpose National Identity Cards-118

Just wondering...

1. Why there seems to be a sense of outrage on this list whenever,
someone questions or criticizes but do not provide any alternatives,
solutions or answers? The underlying assumption seems to be that only
those who know the answer must question or could question?? Where is
it written that responsibility of providing answers must lie with the
questioner? and more importantly I would like to know of any instances
or institutions where such a practice is routine?

2. Why there seems to be a sense that repeated questioning about
something does not serve any useful purpose? or could be
dangerous...Are we persuaded to confirm???

3. There seems to be a prevalence of childlike enthusiasm on behalf of
list members to act as policy makers with delusions of real power and
authority that not only one should not question if one does not know
an answer but one must also know the exact manner in which such an
answer, if known, could be framed and implemented. Do we have a
situation of conflicting roles on this list or what??? Are we not
trying to act here merely in the capacity of  informed citizens, whose
role is to just question and debate without bothering too much for any
real, practical, pragmatic, feasible answers??? Arre bhai we do not
know an answer, that is why we question, no???
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