[Reader-list] Urgent Warden Message

Fri Jun 5 13:24:26 IST 2009

Dear Rajen,

Let us be specific here. We are not discussing about cultural ignorances, we
are talking about terror threats. these were issue way back in 2001.
americans are reiterating this means that there is a possibility of a
strike. however, our most learned friend Pawan has linked it up to the
release of Hafiz Sayeed, someone who was arrested for conspiring 26/11.
instead of supplying the evidences he went on to say that "effect of Hafiz
Sayeed being released in Pakistan" and then citing the US warning to its
nationals. if there is any link to these things, it must come up..you cannot
just issue statements such as "anupam you need a break" and other stuff. do
you get what i am saying?

are you trying to perpetuate the situation of panic created by these terror
groups? that's my question to Pawan and the american establishment as a
whole. if yes give evidences. our business (remember the nuke deal) brings a
lot of americans to this country. i am sure you dont want to see them
fleeing the country. on second thoughts, for tour operators it has
devastating effect as they thrive on foreign tourists. also if it is such a
super confidential intelligence input which this kind of a message for its
citizens, then at least they must be reasonable? they should cite where the
threat is from? warnings have to be specific.

thanks anupam

On 6/5/09, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>  it is the duty of the system of governance to caution its citizens who
> travel to different destinations of the possible perils in those
> destinations. It is neither to create scare nor to discourage them from such
> travels, but it is forewarned who  is forearmed. Unlike the system of
> governance of this nation, where students migrate to Australia, the system
> never even informs them of possible attacks on any basis, race, hate or
> gadgets, money flashing by the students which renders them clueless when
> such miseries are thrust upon them. A group of technicians and actors from
> India,  in US were making a lots of noises in the bus that they were
> travelling on to the location, were detained as the authorities could not
> understand a word they were talking in the regional language in such loud
> voices, the commotion in mallu language created by these, alarmed the law
> enforcing authorities in US. But our system does not even inform the
> travellers to behave and it is common sense that is acking in our many
> tourists who think that having visited "foreign" locations they  have won
> the world.!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajen.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Anupam ,
>>
>> Thank you for pointing out that i suffer from Paranoia. It was quite a
>> polite way to argue.
>>
>> Going forward , there would be many citizens of US who may be subscribed
>> to
>> reader list and may be interested in knowing what their Govt advises them.
>>
>> After 26/11 , we live in a victory syndrome of having got over the attack
>> on
>> Mumbai , however I am sure US intelligence would have given their Govt
>> much
>> valuable feedback as well and we must not neglect how a foreign nation
>> advises its citizen about travelling to our country.
>>
>> Wishes
>>
>> Pawan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:53 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > dear pawan,
>> >
>> > FYI, this is a form of general warning issued since 2001 after 9/11
>> > attacks.
>> > i think Pawan you suffer bouts of paranoia on behalf of Americans. here
>> i
>> > am
>> > NOT trying to defend hafiz sayeed's freedom but please stop creating an
>> > unneccesary state of fear in the reader list.
>> >
>> > can the moderator be slightly more responsible here?
>> >
>> > -anupam
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > "effect of Hafiz Sayed being set free in Pakistan"
>> > >
>> > > June 2, 2009
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The United States Mission in India wishes to *urgently *remind all
>> U.S.
>> > > citizens resident in or traveling to India that there is a high threat
>> > from
>> > > terrorism throughout India.  As terror attacks are a serious and
>> growing
>> > > threat, U.S. citizens are urged to always practice good security,
>> > including
>> > > maintaining a heightened situational awareness and a low profile.
>> > >  Americans
>> > > in India should be vigilant at all times and monitor local news
>> reports
>> > and
>> > > vary their routes and times in carrying out daily activities.
>>  Americans
>> > > should consider the level of security present when visiting public
>> > places,
>> > > including religious sites, or choosing hotels, restaurants,
>> entertainment
>> > > and recreation venues.
>> > >
>> > > For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should
>> > > regularly monitor the Department's Internet web site at
>> > > http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel
>> > > Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Up-to-date information on
>> > > security
>> > > can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United
>> > > States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and
>> Canada, a
>> > > regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from
>> > 8:00
>> > > a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S.
>> > federal
>> > > holidays). Americans are also encouraged to read the Country Specific
>> > > Information for India, available on the Embassy's website at
>> > > http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov, and also at http://travel.state.gov.
>> > >
>> > > U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad are encouraged to register
>> with
>> > > the
>> > > nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department's
>> travel
>> > > registration web site at
>> https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/so
>> > > that they can obtain updated information on travel and security.
>> > Americans
>> > > without Internet access may register directly with the nearest U.S.
>> > Embassy
>> > > or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the
>> > > Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency. For
>> additional
>> > > information, please refer to "A Safe Trip Abroad" found at
>> > > http://travel.state.gov.
>> > >
>> > > U.S. citizens may contact the American Citizens Services Unit of the
>> > > Embassy
>> > > or the Consulates General for further information:
>> > >
>> > > -- The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi is located at Shanti Path, Chanakya
>> Puri
>> > > 110021; telephone +91-11-2419-8000; fax +91-11-2419-8407. The
>> Embassy's
>> > > Internet home page address is http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov.
>> > >
>> > > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Mumbai (Bombay) is located at Lincoln
>> > > House, 78 Bhulabhai Desai Road, 400026, telephone +91-22-2363-3611;
>> fax
>> > > +91-22-2363-0350. The Internet home page address is
>> > > http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov.
>> > >
>> > > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Chennai (Madras) is at 220 Anna
>> Salai,
>> > > Gemini Circle, 600006, telephone +91-44-2857-4000; fax
>> +91-44-2811-2027.
>> > > The
>> > > Internet home page address is http://chennai.usconsulate.gov.
>> > >
>> > > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Kolkata (Calcutta) is at 5/1 Ho Chi
>> Minh
>> > > Sarani, 700071; telephone +91-33-3984-2400; fax +91-33-2282-2335. The
>> > > Internet home page address is http://kolkata.usconsulate.gov.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Hyderabad is at Paigah Palace,
>> 1-8-323,
>> > > Chiran Fort Lane, Begumpet, Secunderabad 500 003; telephone: +91 (40)
>> > > 4033-8300.  The Internet home page address is
>> > > http://hyderabad.usconsulate.gov.
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> Rajen.
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