[Reader-list] Urgent Warden Message

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Fri Jun 5 15:30:00 IST 2009 

Dear Pawan,

are we arguing here to win? i have nothing against you particularly, its
this warning visitor business which makes me uncomfortable. these are
difficult times with fundamentalism from all quarters posing as a menace for
all of us. it is the seeds sown by the western imperialist which is making
them insecure because they know precisely where these threats are coming
from.

anupam
On 6/5/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok Sir ,
>
> You Win ...
>
> Clap Clap Clap....
>
> pawan
>
>
>  On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Now i know Pawan, which bunch of journalists you have been hanging out
>> with
>> lately which makes you such an informed citizen of the country (!)
>>
>> in this particular story, there is no remark by the American consul, that
>> they had issued the warning in view of Hafiz Sayid's release. the exact
>> quote that is ascribed to US diplomat Larry Shwartz: "There was
>> speculation
>> in the Indian media about enhanced terror threat in the country and we
>> have
>> an obligation to our citizens, so we have issued a travel advisory. It is
>> nothing dramatic, but reflects the perception of the Indian media."
>>
>> SPECULATION IN INDIAN MEDIA forced them issue this warning. do you
>> understand what the word speculation means? im sure with informed
>> citizenry
>> like you with your half hearted journalistic attempts are making it
>> impossible for who are entrusted with this job to work. i have advice stop
>> hanging out with those morons and think through your head. indian media is
>> not just one person, its diverse...there are all kinds of people saying
>> all
>> sorts of things. just because it is IBN or EXPRESS or TIMES or INDIA TV or
>> any blah and blah news organisation using it as a juicy lead to begin the
>> story doesnt mean you have to take it as a truth.
>>
>> actually, FYI read this:
>>
>> http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Militant-arrested-in-Delhi-linked-to-JuD-chief-Police/471662/
>>
>> and also even if they have caught this "terrorist" today, it doesnt mean
>> one
>> can issue such warnings based on these reports.
>>
>> P.S.: pawan jee kripya fake IPL blog padhne se thoda upar uthiye
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anupam ,
>> >
>> > You claim to be a journalist but think like what was the of Sreesanth's
>> > name in Fake IPL Blog.
>> >
>> > Pls go through the report of CNN IBN on its website . It reads...
>> >
>> > " Hafiz Saeed , the terror mastermind behind 26/11 in Mumbai and the
>> > Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief was released two days ago by a Lahore court for
>> want of
>> > evidence. In view of this, the United States has issued a travel
>> advisory
>> > for India and Pakistan. "
>> >
>> > http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-upset-over-us-advisory/94188-3.html
>> >
>> > Atleast , though not being a journalist , i think like them .
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Pawan Durani
>> >
>> >  On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>> c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> err...Pawan, may be you should head for the hills. u need some peace in
>> >> life. as you are panic stricken.
>> >>
>> >> on second why dont you start staying inside a trench..you will be safe
>> >>
>> >> On 6/5/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Anupam ,
>> >> >
>> >> > Just spend some time up in hills. You need a break.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pawan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 6/4/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > Dear Pawan,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You might be living in a victory syndrome or loosing streak, for me
>> it
>> >> > was
>> >> > > an loss of so many lives. a life lost in such a calamity is more
>> >> > important
>> >> > > that any country. but that doesnt mean you unneccesarily start
>> posting
>> >> > > american embassy communiques here...that too which are stale. these
>> >> > warnings
>> >> > > create panic among most sane and normal peace loving person.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > you end up propagating the similar ends that these terrorists have
>> >> been
>> >> > > trying to achieve -- create fear.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > anupam
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Pawan Durani <
>> pawan.durani at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Dear Anupam ,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Thank you for pointing out that i suffer from Paranoia. It was
>> quite
>> >> a
>> >> > >> polite way to argue.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Going forward , there would be many citizens of US who may be
>> >> subscribed
>> >> > >> to
>> >> > >> reader list and may be interested in knowing what their Govt
>> advises
>> >> > them.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> After 26/11 , we live in a victory syndrome of having got over the
>> >> > attack
>> >> > >> on Mumbai , however I am sure US intelligence would have given
>> their
>> >> > Govt
>> >> > >> much valuable feedback as well and we must not neglect how a
>> foreign
>> >> > >> nation
>> >> > >> advises its citizen about travelling to our country.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Wishes
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Pawan
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:53 PM, anupam chakravartty
>> >> > >> <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> dear pawan,
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> FYI, this is a form of general warning issued since 2001 after
>> 9/11
>> >> > >>> attacks.
>> >> > >>> i think Pawan you suffer bouts of paranoia on behalf of
>> Americans.
>> >> here
>> >> > i
>> >> > >>> am
>> >> > >>> NOT trying to defend hafiz sayeed's freedom but please stop
>> creating
>> >> an
>> >> > >>> unneccesary state of fear in the reader list.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> can the moderator be slightly more responsible here?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> -anupam
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Pawan Durani <
>> >> pawan.durani at gmail.com>
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > "effect of Hafiz Sayed being set free in Pakistan"
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > June 2, 2009
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > The United States Mission in India wishes to *urgently *remind
>> all
>> >> > U.S.
>> >> > >>> > citizens resident in or traveling to India that there is a high
>> >> > threat
>> >> > >>> from
>> >> > >>> > terrorism throughout India.  As terror attacks are a serious
>> and
>> >> > >>> > growing
>> >> > >>> > threat, U.S. citizens are urged to always practice good
>> security,
>> >> > >>> including
>> >> > >>> > maintaining a heightened situational awareness and a low
>> profile.
>> >> > >>> >  Americans
>> >> > >>> > in India should be vigilant at all times and monitor local news
>> >> > reports
>> >> > >>> and
>> >> > >>> > vary their routes and times in carrying out daily activities.
>> >> > >>> > Americans
>> >> > >>> > should consider the level of security present when visiting
>> public
>> >> > >>> places,
>> >> > >>> > including religious sites, or choosing hotels, restaurants,
>> >> > >>> entertainment
>> >> > >>> > and recreation venues.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad
>> >> > should
>> >> > >>> > regularly monitor the Department's Internet web site at
>> >> > >>> > http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution,
>> >> Travel
>> >> > >>> > Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Up-to-date
>> information
>> >> on
>> >> > >>> > security
>> >> > >>> > can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the
>> >> > United
>> >> > >>> > States and Canada or, for callers outside the United States and
>> >> > Canada,
>> >> > >>> a
>> >> > >>> > regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are
>> available
>> >> from
>> >> > >>> 8:00
>> >> > >>> > a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except
>> U.S.
>> >> > >>> federal
>> >> > >>> > holidays). Americans are also encouraged to read the Country
>> >> Specific
>> >> > >>> > Information for India, available on the Embassy's website at
>> >> > >>> > http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov, and also at
>> >> http://travel.state.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad are encouraged to
>> >> register
>> >> > >>> > with
>> >> > >>> > the
>> >> > >>> > nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State
>> Department's
>> >> > travel
>> >> > >>> > registration web site at
>> >> > >>> > https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/so
>> >> > >>> > that they can obtain updated information on travel and
>> security.
>> >> > >>> Americans
>> >> > >>> > without Internet access may register directly with the nearest
>> >> U.S.
>> >> > >>> Embassy
>> >> > >>> > or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier
>> for
>> >> > the
>> >> > >>> > Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency. For
>> >> > >>> additional
>> >> > >>> > information, please refer to "A Safe Trip Abroad" found at
>> >> > >>> > http://travel.state.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > U.S. citizens may contact the American Citizens Services Unit
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> > >>> > Embassy
>> >> > >>> > or the Consulates General for further information:
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > -- The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi is located at Shanti Path,
>> >> Chanakya
>> >> > >>> Puri
>> >> > >>> > 110021; telephone +91-11-2419-8000; fax +91-11-2419-8407. The
>> >> > Embassy's
>> >> > >>> > Internet home page address is http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Mumbai (Bombay) is located at
>> >> > Lincoln
>> >> > >>> > House, 78 Bhulabhai Desai Road, 400026, telephone
>> >> +91-22-2363-3611;
>> >> > fax
>> >> > >>> > +91-22-2363-0350. The Internet home page address is
>> >> > >>> > http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Chennai (Madras) is at 220
>> Anna
>> >> > Salai,
>> >> > >>> > Gemini Circle, 600006, telephone +91-44-2857-4000; fax
>> >> > >>> > +91-44-2811-2027.
>> >> > >>> > The
>> >> > >>> > Internet home page address is http://chennai.usconsulate.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Kolkata (Calcutta) is at 5/1
>> Ho
>> >> Chi
>> >> > >>> Minh
>> >> > >>> > Sarani, 700071; telephone +91-33-3984-2400; fax
>> +91-33-2282-2335.
>> >> The
>> >> > >>> > Internet home page address is http://kolkata.usconsulate.gov.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > -- The U.S. Consulate General in Hyderabad is at Paigah Palace,
>> >> > >>> > 1-8-323,
>> >> > >>> > Chiran Fort Lane, Begumpet, Secunderabad 500 003; telephone:
>> +91
>> >> (40)
>> >> > >>> > 4033-8300.  The Internet home page address is
>> >> > >>> > http://hyderabad.usconsulate.gov.
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