[Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned

Sun Jun 7 14:19:01 IST 2009

Dear Rajen jee

You think I hate Modi. Interestingly, Modi hates non-vegetarians in his own
party (like he hated Kashiram Rana of his own party). So much for hatred!

The fact is that the developmental model which Modi brags about, is useless
and sooner or later is going to lead Gujarat to utter disaster. The poverty
levels in Gujarat are still about 14.07%. Around 2006-07, Modi and his govt.
were bragging for being declared the best govt as per a survey conducted by
the Rajiv Gandhi foundation. The reality is that the Modi govt. was rated
best only for 'Economic Freedom'.

As a proof, I give link of this article published in the Hindu:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2005/06/27/stories/2005062700200900.htm

Modi is exactly doing what George Bush was good at, propagandas. If you say
a lie 1000 times, people believe it's the truth. So, when Bush said again
and again that Iraq had WMD's, Americans were convinced, or at least a
section were. And the local media was used very easily. Similar is the case
in Gujarat, where the local Gujarati media plays in hands of Modi, and he
convinced them and still does so that not only do Muslims deserve to be
second class citizens (which is now implicit post Godhra), but also that his
developmental model is the best.

More importantly, what he has done is only going to prove disastrous in the
long run. Around the coastal regions, you have factories coming up without
proper laws or procedure being followed, and the result is that the salt
which is obtained from sea water in these coastal regions is turning black
due to pollution from the factories. This is Modi's management! And I say
Modi because he likes to show that he is the boss.

Please don't get swept away by the Modi mania, otherwise India will anyways
hit a six by sweeping him over the ropes when the battle comes up in 2014,
and you will then feel bad about it.

As for the other riots, all those involved in them,directly and indirectly,
belonging to whichever party and whichever community, or being of any
religion, should be put behind bars and cases properly registered,
investigated and taken to their logical conclusions in the quickest possible
time. Those who don't do so, whether it be Modi in Gujarat or the Congress
in Delhi, are culprits, at least as I see it.

Regards

Rakesh

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Rakesh,
>
>  you seem to have the  patent hate for the leaders like Modi who have
> administered well, got elected again and again because of the good
> governance, and conveniently forget that many other riots have shown that
> all humans have an animal side to them, like in Bhagalpur riots, it was
> goons of other political parties had raped the muslim women and killed
> innocent muslims in many other riots. To generalise that only in one state
> gujarath the riots had muslim as victims shows tht insufficient study has
> taken place,please find enclosed a study of riots which was postd in the
> list for your ready reference.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajen.
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Vedavati jee (and all)
>>
>> First of all, you should stop being a spokesman for the entire Hindu
>> community. Who are you to say that Muslims have survived in India because
>> the majority of people here were Hindus? Don't Muslims survive in America
>> too? Don't they live in England? Don't they live in other nations,
>> including
>> China? And how did you draw the conclusion that Muslims have survived
>> because of a Hindu majority in India?
>>
>> Secondly, I would strongly urge you or request you to stop looking at
>> issues
>> from Jewish, Hindu or Muslim point of view. We already had a great
>> president
>> in George Bush in America to do that and the world has paid a price for
>> it.
>> Similarly, we have our own Narendra Modi in India, who has been constantly
>> trying to rupture the foundations of our Indian Republic as enshrined in
>> the
>> Constitution.
>>
>> By speaking out against secularism, you are speaking against the very
>> Constitution of India, and for your own consideration, can be treated as a
>> 'traitor' by the same yardstick of the Constitution. This is also for all
>> those who constantly attack secularism on this forum. At least you are
>> nationalistic, you should know this.
>>
>> Instead of venting out your anger, please give rational/logical arguments
>> about why secularism is wrong. At least Ashish Nandy had a point when he
>> said that secularism has increased communal violence in India, for secular
>> modern development has cut off people from their cultural roots, who then
>> take refuge in Hindutva and this leads to problems. What do you have as an
>> argument against secularism?
>>
>> Please look at issues from a human angle. I accept that Kashmiri Hindus
>> have
>> a right, and the fate of any self-determined/Indian occupation/Pakistani
>> occupation of Kashmir must take the views and ideas of all sections of the
>> Kashmiri society into consideration. And as for the Kashmiri Pandits, to a
>> certain degree India has failed them. And it was not as if under the right
>> wing govt in India, they were living a life of paradise either.
>>
>> Thirdly, on a personal level, I would urge you to at least start trusting
>> the ability of human beings, and having faith in them, at least till you
>> have proof to the contrary. If you have suffered a tragedy at the hands of
>> one Muslim or a few Muslims, it doesn't mean the entire community must be
>> criticized for the same. And anyways, are not there bad people in the
>> Hindu
>> community?
>>
>> Weren't those who raped Muslim women in the post-Godhra riots Hindus?
>> Weren't those who indulged in violence during that time Hindus? Is
>> violence
>> acceptable? Do you think rape is the way to solve 'Hindu-Muslim problem'
>> which is in the minds first and on the roads later? Do you advocate this
>> as
>> the way to avenge Godhra?
>>
>> And if they are Hindus, which I hope you would accept, should the entire
>> Hindu community be criticized? Should we denounce Hinduism? Are all Hindus
>> then inhuman, as Osama Bin Laden would like the Muslims around the world
>> to
>> believe?
>>
>> Please think about this, it's a humble request from me. So also for the
>> others. Here I am not saying you shouldn't be nationalistic (this I
>> believe
>> is very difficult to change), but at least for the sake of the nation
>> which
>> you put before yourself, at least understand the true nature of the
>> problem
>> instead of looking at it through skewed minds.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rakesh
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> Rajen.
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