[Reader-list] Is Indian democracy turning into a farce now?

Venugopalan K M kmvenuannur at gmail.com
Sat Jun 20 20:43:28 IST 2009


Well said,  Rakesh and Anupam.
Perhaps there needs to be lot more of interactions through the medium of
words before we are finally  able to unsettle our own small circles of self
righteousness coming on the way . Somehow, I have  an impression that in
today's world, there is more space and ease for words  to flow, though we
all may have our limitations in keeping pace with them. Certainly such words
do make more impact thanks to their earnestness and perseverance as to what
is to be conveyed, than the  din and buzzes  often made to serve one hidden
agenda or the other.
Regards,
Venu.



On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am surprised that the soothsayers among the readers who rush to rescue
> their gods from being ridiculed are staying away from this discussion. Or
> is
> it too trivial to discuss such things? or is it because these are high
> ideals that we are talking which actually doesnt work against the
> primordial
> instinct to human beings -- you scratch my back, i will do the same. some
> take refuge in this primordial instinct and propagate their ideas.
>
> thanks anupam
>
>
> On 6/20/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Venu jee
> >
> > I feel the demarcating element here is the intentions of the actors
> > concerned. If these intentions help the people, the poorest human being
> as
> > Gandhi jee said, then obviously it would be beneficial. If not, then
> > obviously there may be some problem with it. For example, RSS
> popularizing
> > Hindutva is not going to help the poorest human being obviously, whereas
> > when Ambedkar fights for the rights of Dalits who are poor indeed, so
> that
> > they can live with dignity in the society, obviously it can help the
> poor,
> > the downtrodden and give them political, social and economic empowerment,
> > bring about their development and in my sense, make them happy, which is
> > what development must ultimately aim at.
> >
> > Identity politics should aim at, as Anupam jee said, transforming oneself
> > or
> > improving the lot of one's own community but not at the expense of the
> > others. And obviously, I agree that identity politics focuses on
> > discontentment, but that discontentment should be at the bad condition
> one
> > is in, not converting that into an enemity factor against others, which
> can
> > tomorrow lead to violence.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rakesh
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