[Reader-list] [Lalgarh Does not Exist]

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 15:52:45 IST 2009


dear rajen,

you should have included the politicians, the police officials, CRPF members
who take violent measures to quell violence. its ironical but true as well
as in several places in andhra pradesh, manipur, kashmir. politicians are
biggest sympathiser of such actions..they are equally responsible. instead
of question why such violent forms of dissent are happening across the
nation, you are just discussing what forms of dissent should be employed.
why there should be so much of strife? unless you dont understand and
express your thoughts about that talking merely about violence becomes
irrelevant.

second, inclusion of binayak sen and teesta setalvad along with praveen
togadia makes your argument really weak here. because you seem to have one
yardstick to measure everyone -- either you are with us ( the so-called law
abiding citizens) or you are an enemy of the state. however problems in
this nation exist in particular as it is a diverse country. even several
state security agencies do not employ similar measures in tackling with
the issues in chattisgarh to quell naxalite movement, while keeping the
communal rioting at bay. so how are presenting binayak sen and praveen
togadia in the same pedestal. the word "sympathiser" has several
connotations. you can sympathise with the cause that a particular movement
is raising but may not sympathise the means by which solutions to the
problem are being taken by these banned organisations.

-thanks anupam

On 6/24/09, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
>    any citizen, in his / her excercise of rights of freedom to expression
> can express his/her views in democratic India, but taking laws into their
> own hands as a way of demonstration of protest is not acceptable in any
> society, as this violence not only hurts the innocents, but also destroys
> the civil liberties of citizens and violence only begets more of it. Be it
> naxalites, maoists, fanatics of any faith, when they resort to violent
> means
> of addressing the issues that they percieve as wrong, it destroys the
> societal harmony, liberties of the citizens, worse, it ushers in atrocities
> by the state machinery on every citizen under assumption that he/she is
> "sympathiser"
> of such violent actions of these groups. Binayak Sen and all other well
> meaning individuals  of naxalites also fall in this category,just as a
> praveen togadia or afjal guru and geelanis and theestas of the nation. Let
> the laws of the land take firm and definite action against law breakers,
> whether in uniform or citizens of the nation, only rule of laws which if
> impartial, non partisan, without fear or favour acts on the deviants in the
> society, the democracy will floursh, dissent without violent action to
> express dissent is acceptable, but dissent in the form of violence is not
> acceptable in civil society.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajen.
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:14 PM, subhrodip sengupta <
> sub_sengupta at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> > Maoist spokesman detained in Kolkata for questioning. Finally to threaten
> > these people you yeild the rod in central Kolkata. Nothing new, they had
> > always been. Now specially when govt gets itchy over NAxalite's strategy,
> > what aft But detaining spokespersons or message bearers is against
> > politics.. Naah these guys wanna rub out the traits of Maoism from all
> books
> > in India, something in which the Khilji's failed. Bad luck, Mr.
> Chakravorty,
> > you are in the police net. As for Central Kol., it has always woitnessed
> > police attrocities for the last decade. Off course there might be some
> bomb,
> > etc. but isnt this guy a herald. A few women were similarly held in Delhi
> > recently on same allegations without substantial proof as if thus the
> > ideology can be erased and the system and the ranks rationalised. This
> came
> > hopefully as a reaction to a pro-people's assembly where some noted
> > activist threated to arrange a Dharna before writers and BUddhadev's
> office,
> > with
> >  off course many Maoists, if CPI(ML) was banned. The ideology is clearly
> > more dangerous and revolutionary than the army! Messing up things will
> > definitely not help, Mr. Bhattacharya! LAlgarh lives on, as a revolution.
> > Does First War of Independance( Ok revolt of 1857 exist?)
> >
> >
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