[Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims

Wed May 6 14:23:29 IST 2009

it must also be a disgrace that you are speaking  writing thinking and what
else not, in Inglesi, another set of goras, following the chughtai speaking
and persian speaking apparently chinese mongols &  turks.

maybe obama should now humilate bush by arranging quality time for him first
in abughraib and then guantanamo, i'm sure modi would make a nice rendition
too.

thanks for this line of thinking. good going.

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Kshemendra ,
>
> As i have mentioned to you , you have a slave inside you . A salve which
> you
> have not been able to exorcised since centuries beginning with the Islamic
> onslaught on Bharat.
>
> What makes Chancal a disgrace while as those who love to follow Arabic
> things not a disgrace to India or Indian culture.
>
> Pawan
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Chanchal
> >
> > If you think you are a good Indian or a good Hindu you are totally
> > mistaken. You are a disgrace to both.
> >
> > People like you are nothing but enemies of India who by word and action
> do
> > nothing but bring about divides in India and fracture it.
> >
> > Please do not copy any of your idiotic mails to me.
> >
> > Kshmendra
> >
> > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
> > To: "M Javed" <javedmasoo at gmail.com>, kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 9:31 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Indian Muslims are those whose forefathers betrayed with their own base
> > foundation Hinduism - either out of fear or lust.
> > Indian Muslims are those who historically didn't play a major role in
> > Indian Independence, and rather took lead in Khilafat with Gandhi (the
> > apostole of peace) to massacre over 10,000 Hindus in the name of God...
> > Indian Muslims are those who established a thick line in 1947 that they
> > cannot live with Hindus who unfortunately happens to be their own
> ancestral
> > brothers...
> > India Muslims now have loosed their credibility of being a part of
> > Nationalist attitude by publicly denying to accept National Anthem,
> National
> > Song and denying Bharat as maata... when these things should have nothing
> to
> > take with Hindus... but now slogans like 'Bharat maata ki Jai', 'Jana
> gana
> > mana', 'vande maatram'... are all part of only Hindu culture...
> > Indian Muslims are now a partners of Terrorism, and by and large declared
> > Terrorism... most of their leaders shout publicly that every Muslim
> should
> > be a terrorist with some logical background that terrorism should be for
> > non-believers often purified through management language...
> > Indian Muslims or any Muslim in this world (barring exceptions - 1 to 2 %
> > of the population), has to re-establish their credibility that they are
> > humans and worshipers of humanity first before unknown, unseen God who
> > according to them hates, prepares fire of hell, prepared heaven with
> houris
> > and virgins, asks people to murder...
> >
> > WHO WILL SOLVE THIS IGNORANCE OF HATRED IN THE NAME OF GOD - ONLY
> HINDUS...
> > That is the reason Muslims have existed from over thousand years in
> India,
> > and Hindus and others have been eliminated from Islamic lands...
> > Historically proven, demography of today proves this...
> >
> > One should not enforce their own intolerance upon Hindus in the name of
> > Babri and Gujarat Riots... They must go back into 1000 years of History
> > which created Babri.. Kashmir.. and Godhra...  One must talk of CAUSE and
> > not EFFECT alone... The Effect on Hindus are much deeper than anything
> else
> > in this world...
> >
> > The well integrated four Varnas - popularly known as Aryas - were divided
> > and remains divided because of Invasion and Western Politics still ruling
> > this nation...
> > The ever free women of India were put under 'Ghunghat' for ever to hide
> > their face from the Islamic looters... Brahmins had to impose child
> marriage
> > among Hindus because their girls were picked away at an early age in the
> > name of 'Virgin' given by God to Islamic rapers... British took advantage
> of
> > this and teached the whole population that these are the raw culture of
> > Hinduism...
> >
> > Unfortunate, the same Best Scientists, Philosophers, Pschologists and all
> > failed to defeat Swami Vivekananda who put Hinduism on top of everything
> on
> > their land... Read him, read Hinduism from its scripture (and not from
> the
> > mouth of Dr. Zakir Naik)... and you will know that WORLD LIVES BECAUSE
> > HINDUISM IS ALIVE EVEN IN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY...
> >
> > A person respecting his parents is Hinduism, A person loyarl to his
> > Religous Guru is Hinduism, A person dedicated to his job is Hinduism, A
> > person marrying and leading a stable family is Hinduism... A person
> getting
> > spiritual in line with God is Hinduism...
> > You may change the books, induce impurity in the name of God in those
> > books... but the truth will ever remain... The world exists because of
> > Hinduism and the world will exist only as long as Hinduism is alive -
> > directly or indirectly....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: M Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com>
> > To: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 5:38:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
> >
> > Dear Kshmendra
> >
> > Who is an Indian Muslim?
> >
> > We need to answer this before we can answer your "...should they be
> > thinking about using the Islamic flag..."
> >
> > Javed
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > QUOTE:
> > >
> > > It also carried drawings of two white and black flags, the former being
> > the main flag of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) and the latter
> > his military standard. Even now, black-turbaned TNSM members carry the
> small
> > white and black flags as they walk ahead of Sufi Mohammad. ...... UNQUOTE
> > >
> > > This quote is from an article on Maulana Sufi Mohammad written by
> > Rahimullah Yusufzai.
> > > http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=175825
> > >
> > > No green flag. No crescent and star on it.
> > >
> > > The green flag with the crescent and star on it which is used by Indian
> > Muslims has often caused misunderstandings.
> > >
> > > One recent example has been Simi Garewal talking about Pakistani Flags
> > being flown by Indian Muslims. She apologised later for having mistaken
> the
> > Islamic Flag of the Indian Muslims for the Pakistani Flag.
> > >
> > > The close resemblance between the 2 flags confused even
> > Anupam Chakravartty, who inspite of video coverage from Times Now showing
> it
> > to be a Pakistani Flag, insisted that what was flown in Assam with "
> sickle
> > (sic) and star on green background  is an islamic symbol"
> > > http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2009-April/018755.html
> > >
> > > In an earlier mail I had commented:
> > >
> > > """""" If this is factual, then the question arises for the Indian
> > Muslims that should they be thinking about using the Islamic Flag without
> > the Crescent and Star so that it does not appear to be close to being the
> > flag of Pakistan? """"""
> > > http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2008-December/017016.html
> > >
> > > Just thinking aloud
> > >
> > > Kshmendra
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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