[Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims

[yasir ~يا سر]

oh no this is terrible.
i should read the news more often.
people should be encoraged to marru for live
just like in the movies
i mean good movies

         :)



On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Media is getting anti-national... It blocks out news that goes against
> Islam... and
> This is happening since Independence...
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-4003319,prtpage-1.cms
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:17:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
>
> Dear chanchal,
>
> I think you forgot to mention that modern chemistry has its roots in
> Arabia,
> so does the understanding of modern geography especially for sailors from
> which thales borrowed was of semetic origin.
>
> since, you are close to hindutva vadis, kindly tell us why VHP leader ashok
> singhal is mostly in america and uk -- what is his business there if as you
> say that hindutva vadis are internalising their struggle here?
>
> it is easier to get votes by fanning out faith-based issues but in that
> process one ends up cheating their personal gods, if you know what i mean.
> it is shame that you are accusing one whole community because some
> criminals, some shrewd individuals on some innocent. if we go by how you
> are
> describing these acts, then gujarat riots, kandhamal was planned by the
> hindus and whole of hindu community is responsible for that. but we dont do
> so because a large number of hindus do not want to be a part of these acts
> -- they want to carry on with their daily lives, even if it is mundane. i
> dont see your ideas being different from that of al-qaeda.
>
> -anupam
>
>
>
>
> On 5/6/09, chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > What is wrong in Kamasutra... It is a Science of Sex... to be practiced
> > during Grihastha Aashram....
> > Sex is not a closed deal for Hindus... It is a natural science... and who
> > will deny that the whole creation of the Universe lies on this very
> concept
> > of Sex....
> >
> > Are Muslims born without sex... and is their own parental sexual
> positions
> > different from the science of kamasutra....
> > hindus are not bigotry...  muslims rape Hindu women by order of God and
> > criticize Kamasutra...
> > Tulsidas told - Bhikhari upwaas kare to use upwaas nahi kehate...
> > Muslims talking about Kamasutra is hopeless... Because they are by order
> of
> > God allowed to marry many and hold many...
> >
> > Do not talk of the maturity of Hinduism towards which Science is bound to
> > move.... From where has this concept of 4.3 billion years of earth's age
> > come... it is from Hinduism... if you do not believe Hindu book, read
> > Akbarnama where author has said about Hindu calculation and mentioned
> about
> > this.... he told it crazy but now science is saying the same thing...
>  the
> > beginning of all scientific theories are now merging with Hinduism...
> which
> > will be criticized by Religions... because these Religions want to throw
> > away God..and do all crimes.. and force God to forgive them.. and make
> the
> > sufferers further suffer....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>
> > To: Sarai Reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 1:14:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
> >
> > [satire]
> >
> > clap clap clap clap
> >
> > thanks. what a balanced view you have written. that was very enlightening
> > as
> > hinduism is/out to be.
> >
> > because i had thought hinduism was the hari krishnas, kamasutras,
> ajantas,
> > temple prostitution and naked fakirs. . in addition to the baniyas
> fleecing
> > people and tribals dancing around fires. and who wants to wait for houris
> > anyway. when you have the jantar mantar.
> >
> > i like saffron. we use it in cooking. and we have it when we return from
> > bombing the americans. as you predicted rightly, hindus are next as youve
> > gotten a taste. ie if you harrass the locals too much and we start
> getting
> > complaints, we are coming from across the northwest as is the custom for
> a
> > a
> > few thousand years.  what makes u even think you can win or even hold out
> > for one second.
> >
> > namaste
> > stay safe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM, chanchal malviya <
> > chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Indian Muslims are those whose forefathers betrayed with their own base
> > > foundation Hinduism - either out of fear or lust.
> > > Indian Muslims are those who historically didn't play a major role in
> > > Indian Independence, and rather took lead in Khilafat with Gandhi (the
> > > apostole of peace) to massacre over 10,000 Hindus in the name of God...
> > > Indian Muslims are those who established a thick line in 1947 that they
> > > cannot live with Hindus who unfortunately happens to be their own
> > ancestral
> > > brothers...
> > > India Muslims now have loosed their credibility of being a part of
> > > Nationalist attitude by publicly denying to accept National Anthem,
> > National
> > > Song and denying Bharat as maata... when these things should have
> nothing
> > to
> > > take with Hindus... but now slogans like 'Bharat maata ki Jai', 'Jana
> > gana
> > > mana', 'vande maatram'... are all part of only Hindu culture...
> > > Indian Muslims are now a partners of Terrorism, and by and large
> declared
> > > Terrorism... most of their leaders shout publicly that every Muslim
> > should
> > > be a terrorist with some logical background that terrorism should be
> for
> > > non-believers often purified through management language...
> > > Indian Muslims or any Muslim in this world (barring exceptions - 1 to 2
> %
> > > of the population), has to re-establish their credibility that they are
> > > humans and worshipers of humanity first before unknown, unseen God who
> > > according to them hates, prepares fire of hell, prepared heaven with
> > houris
> > > and virgins, asks people to murder...
> > >
> > > WHO WILL SOLVE THIS IGNORANCE OF HATRED IN THE NAME OF GOD - ONLY
> > HINDUS...
> > > That is the reason Muslims have existed from over thousand years in
> > India,
> > > and Hindus and others have been eliminated from Islamic lands...
> > > Historically proven, demography of today proves this...
> > >
> > > One should not enforce their own intolerance upon Hindus in the name of
> > > Babri and Gujarat Riots... They must go back into 1000 years of History
> > > which created Babri.. Kashmir.. and Godhra...  One must talk of CAUSE
> and
> > > not EFFECT alone... The Effect on Hindus are much deeper than anything
> > else
> > > in this world...
> > >
> > > The well integrated four Varnas - popularly known as Aryas - were
> divided
> > > and remains divided because of Invasion and Western Politics still
> ruling
> > > this nation...
> > > The ever free women of India were put under 'Ghunghat' for ever to hide
> > > their face from the Islamic looters... Brahmins had to impose child
> > marriage
> > > among Hindus because their girls were picked away at an early age in
> the
> > > name of 'Virgin' given by God to Islamic rapers... British took
> advantage
> > of
> > > this and teached the whole population that these are the raw culture of
> > > Hinduism...
> > >
> > > Unfortunate, the same Best Scientists, Philosophers, Pschologists and
> all
> > > failed to defeat Swami Vivekananda who put Hinduism on top of
> everything
> > on
> > > their land... Read him, read Hinduism from its scripture (and not from
> > the
> > > mouth of Dr. Zakir Naik)... and you will know that WORLD LIVES BECAUSE
> > > HINDUISM IS ALIVE EVEN IN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY...
> > >
> > > A person respecting his parents is Hinduism, A person loyarl to his
> > > Religous Guru is Hinduism, A person dedicated to his job is Hinduism, A
> > > person marrying and leading a stable family is Hinduism... A person
> > getting
> > > spiritual in line with God is Hinduism...
> > > You may change the books, induce impurity in the name of God in those
> > > books... but the truth will ever remain... The world exists because of
> > > Hinduism and the world will exist only as long as Hinduism is alive -
> > > directly or indirectly....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com>
> > > To: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> > > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 5:38:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
> > >
> > > Dear Kshmendra
> > >
> > > Who is an Indian Muslim?
> > >
> > > We need to answer this before we can answer your "...should they be
> > > thinking about using the Islamic flag..."
> > >
> > > Javed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <
> kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > QUOTE:
> > > >
> > > > It also carried drawings of two white and black flags, the former
> being
> > > the main flag of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) and the
> latter
> > > his military standard. Even now, black-turbaned TNSM members carry the
> > small
> > > white and black flags as they walk ahead of Sufi Mohammad. ......
> UNQUOTE
> > > >
> > > > This quote is from an article on Maulana Sufi Mohammad written by
> > > Rahimullah Yusufzai.
> > > > http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=175825
> > > >
> > > > No green flag. No crescent and star on it.
> > > >
> > > > The green flag with the crescent and star on it which is used by
> Indian
> > > Muslims has often caused misunderstandings.
> > > >
> > > > One recent example has been Simi Garewal talking about Pakistani
> Flags
> > > being flown by Indian Muslims. She apologised later for having mistaken
> > the
> > > Islamic Flag of the Indian Muslims for the Pakistani Flag.
> > > >
> > > > The close resemblance between the 2 flags confused even Anupam
> > > Chakravartty, who inspite of video coverage from Times Now showing it
> to
> > be
> > > a Pakistani Flag, insisted that what was flown in Assam with " sickle
> > (sic)
> > > and star on green background  is an islamic symbol"
> > > > http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2009-April/018755.html
> > > >
> > > > In an earlier mail I had commented:
> > > >
> > > > """""" If this is factual, then the question arises for the Indian
> > > Muslims that should they be thinking about using the Islamic Flag
> without
> > > the Crescent and Star so that it does not appear to be close to being
> the
> > > flag of Pakistan? """"""
> > > >
> http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2008-December/017016.html
> > > >
> > > > Just thinking aloud
> > > >
> > > > Kshmendra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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