[Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of ...

[M Javed]

Dear Vedavati

You are right that Hindus and Muslims have been living together for
1000 years, but the real reason they lived together was that (despite
the Alauddin Khaljis and Ghaznavis and Aurangzebs) there also existed
in this country certain saner elements in the form of Kabir, Amir
Khusro, Nizamuddin Aulia, Tulsidas, Surdas, Dara Shikoh, Guru Nanak
and so on, who kept making efforts to bring people together at one
platform despite their differences. And let me tell you that it is
these people (Kabir, Nanak, Khusro) who were outcast in those days in
the same fashion as you want to outcast your "sickulars". Yet we
remember such people as the stalwarts of Indian secular tradition and
so on. There may be some issues related to each person, but I consider
people like Arundhati Roy, Teesta Setalvad, Binayak Sen and Safdar
Hashmi as today's Kabirs and Dadu.

If Hindus and Muslims couldn't survive peacefully in the past without
the intervention of our Sufis and Bhakts, India cannot survive today
without the relentless activism of Setalvad and Swami Agnivesh. I
salute them for keeping the sanity alive.

Javed


On 5/7/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> muslims & hindus need not have to attack eachother. they have been living
> together in this country since last 1000 years.
> but i sincerely feel that both should attack sickulars like arundhati roy,
> tista, left parties and many more,
> throw them out of this country (along with gandhian and nehruvian models of
> secularism)
> without which true secularism will not be restored
> vedavati
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/5/09, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
> To: "Sarai Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009, 11:08 PM
>
>
> dear vedavati
>
> and why would muslims attack hindus in any given context, even  IF they
> chose to do so whether on the list or off, in the absence of the sickulars
> doing so?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Vedavati Jogi
> <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> what you have written is partially correct.
>> muslims need not have to attack 'so called' hindus because that job is
>> done
>> by 'sickulars' on readers-list.
>>
>> vedavati
>>
>> --- On Wed, 6/5/09, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Islamic Flag of Indian Muslims
>> To: "Sarai Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009, 12:29 AM
>>
>>
>> dear All,
>>
>> I do not understand how constantly the list members keep attacking the
>> same entity called muslims and indian muslims. Well all attackers call
>> themselves hindus. The viscousness of the attacks baffles me. If they
>> had power and weapons they can do serious damage.
>>
>> On the other hand, i have not seen any person with so called "muslim
>> name" attack a Hindu or Hinduism, on this list.  So why does so called
>> Hindus keep attacking muslims in this list. What kind of blood lust is
>> this?
>>
>> Now days Hinduism is a fairly celebrated religion and thousands of
>> publications and places of worship is a sure sign of that. Yet a weird
>> sense of injured self seem to have justified all kind of rabble rousing.
>>
>> Being cautious of authoritarian organization is one thing, but to keep
>> on attacking a group of people is appalling.
>>
>> warmly
>> jeebesh
>>
>>
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