[Reader-list] "Multi Party Dialogue on the Political Future of J&K”. Organised by CSDS

Tue Nov 10 19:19:39 IST 2009

The Islamic Separatists of Indian Kashmir should first decide amongst themselves what their 'plans/proposals/formulas' are, before agreeing to or seeking dialogue with (what are generally referred to as) "mainstream" political parties.

Otherwise it is meaningless for anyone to talk to their assemblage of bits and pieces.

These kind of meets - "Multi Party Dialogue on the Political Future of J&K”* organized by
the *Centre for the Studies of Developing Societies* in collaboration with the *Nehru Memorial Museum and Library* - are 'public tamashas'.

- Prof Abdul Gani Bhat, senior leader and former chairman of the Hurriyat-M (for Moderate) says "I propose that Hurriyat, JKLF, NC and PDP should work together to evolve consensus and move together for a better and prosperous tomorrow for the people of Jammu and Kashmir"

  Noble thoughts but he convieniently leaves out the Congree and the BJP.

- Gani Bhat did say 'Hurriyat' but Mehbooba Mufti (PDP) knows that Bhat can speak only for Hurriyat-M (for Moderate) and not for Hurriyat-H (for Hardline). So she advises that "senior separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani should be a part of any such confluence". 

- But, what does Geelani of  Hurriyat-H (for Hardline) have to say. Well, he "advised the pro-freedom leaders not to participate in the dialogue."

- Did Gani Bhat mention JKLF too? Yes he did. Wonder which faction of JKLF he had in mind. 

- Yasin Malik (of one of the many JKLF factions) has a simple formula "Kashmiris, Malik said, have been demanding independence and New-Delhi and Islamabad should address their demands."

  Knock! Knock! you dumb-head, the National Conference (NC); Peoples Democratic Party (PDP); Congress; BJP have not been 'demanding independence'. Do they not represent Kashmiris?

- Yasin Malik "accused the mainstream political parties in Kashmir of becoming the stake holders of New-Delhi". Hello! Hello! is that news for you Yasin? There are various stakes in J&K and various stakeholders.

- We should seat Yasin Malik and Mehbooba Mufti together after Yasin stops whining. "Pointing towards the Peoples Democratic Party leaders, Malik said, 'Formulas being floated by them are diluting the Kashmir issue ........They are the ones who brought troops to J&K and today they are demanding their withdrawal'."  

  Looks like only the Yasin Malik 'formula' is acceptable to Yasin Malik. What is that Yasin Malik 'formula'? No one knows.

- Did I say Gani Bhat can speak only for Hurriyat-M (for Moderate)? Apparently that too he cannot. Well, at least he forgot to attach the conditionalities to his "Noble Thoughts".

   " .... top leaders of the conglomerate Sunday described it as Bhat' personal opinion,"

  Chairman of Gani Bhat's Hurriyat-M (for Moderate),  "..Mirwaiz Umar Farooq said that NC and PDP should 'relinquish power politics' before any such move." 

   Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, the pompous Islamist-wolf in Secularist-sheep clothing has an additional idiotic suggestion  "We have made it clear time and again that if the mainstream parties are serious and sincere to resolve the Kashmir issue, they should relinquish power politics and join Hurriyat. Then we can sit together and find a solution". 

   NC; PDP; Congress; BJP should join the Hurriyat. Another Noble Thought. Farooq forgot to mention which faction of the Hurriyat they should join.

- Shabir Shah (Kuldip Nayar's Mandela), also of Hurriyat-M (for Moderate), in fact wants nothing to do with NC or PDP. Shah had this to say "Both PDP and NC consider Kashmir a part of India. They will secure India's interests if they are involved in talks".

This bunch of clowns, these Islamist Separatists, bear responsibility (at the very least indirect responsibility) for the deaths of quite a few tens of thousands of lives. It is foolish to offer them a dialogue or a platform for their hypocrisies unless they first decide amongst themselves what they want to say.

Kshmendra

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Ravikant <ravikant at sarai.net> wrote:

From: Ravikant <ravikant at sarai.net>
Subject: [Reader-list] Fwd: Detailed program of J& K Dialogues
To: reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 5:39 PM

Programme

"*Multi Party Dialogue on the Political Future of J&K”* being organized by
the *Centre for the Studies of Developing Societies* in collaboration with
the *Nehru Memorial Museum and Library*.

*Date:*    November 7, 2009.

*Venue*:  Seminar Room, Nehru Memorial Museum and Library, Teen Murti House.

*Time*:      9.30 a.m. to 5.30 p.m.

*Morning Session:  9.30 am to 1.30 pm*

*Chair: Ram Jethmalani*

Welcome and introductions

*Order of Speakers***

*Mohammad Shafi Uri, *M.P. Rajya Sabha followed by discussion on National
Conference’s proposal for *“Autonomy*
”.

*Muzaffar Hussain Baig,* Former Deputy Chief Minister & *Mehbooba
Mufti, *President PDP,
followed by discussion on People's Democratic Party's proposal for *'Self
Rule'*.

*Abdul Gani Butt *and* Bilal Gani Lone *of All Party Hurriyat Conference:The
Relevance, *Modalities and Implications of* *Plebiscite for Self
Determination." *

*Responses: Nancy Kaul *Daughters of Vitista, *and Ramesh Manwati:* Panun
Kashmir, *Sanjay Tikkoo*: Kasmiri Pandit Sangharsh Samiti (Sringar),
*Susheela Bhan *Institute of Peace Research and Action*);  Ellora Puri*
(University of Jammu),

*Afternoon Session*: *2.30 to 5-30 p.m. *

* *

*Yasin Malik* of Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front :*"The Form and Content
of Azadi.”*

*Yuddhvir Sethi*, State Secretary BJPJammu District, *M.P. Magrey* and
*Sheikh Mohammad* (Rajouri and Doda District).

*Sonam Wangchuk Narboo* (Ladakh Autonomous Hill Council), *Siddiq
Wahid*(Islamic University of Science and Technology).

*Saifuddin Soz*, Hon'ble Minister for Water Resources, Congress Party

* *

*3.30--5.30 p.m*.*.....Open discussion*.

We look forward to your participation.

Sincerely,

*Madhu Kishwar* ,   *Shail Mayaram*

Tea Breaks 11.30-11.45 a.m and 4.00 to 4.15 p.m.

Lunch break.1.30--2.30 p.m

* *

--
Shail Mayaram
Professor
Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi
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