[Reader-list] (off topic) Re: 'Krishna existed. The school texts arewrong':says nuclear scientist

taraprakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Tue Sep 1 22:45:33 IST 2009


I don't mind your hatred against such people as you described. But this 
person was neither talking about Hinduism specificly nor he was suggesting 
any insecurity. He, in fact, said something to the effect about religion 
(not Hinduism) being tool for world peace. In one of your previous mails 
when you reacted as if you were stung by million bees, the reason was just 
use of the word Hindu. The mail did no speak of any insecurity etc. The 
irony that the writer was pointing towards, like it would happen to any 
street bully, went over your head.

And yes, you are right. I don't read most of your mails, I don't read most 
of the list mails in fact. There is not just 1 bully on this list. A lot of 
mails on this list, some written by you as well, stink of shit. And there is 
so much of shit flowing around, it is not fair to blame you alone. But you 
seem to have pretensions of sophistication, so I smell some of it from you. 
But no more. If you can't see the contradiction in your mails written on 
this thread, I pity your intelligence.

Sorry list, there wasn't much for anyone in this mail but since Anupam is 
anyway going to make it public by putting this on his blog, I did not send 
him this mail privately, which I should have done. Apologies again.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "anupam chakravartty" <c.anupam at gmail.com>
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] 'Krishna existed. The school texts arewrong':says 
nuclear scientist


> Dear Taraprakash,
>
> You may be partially right about my hatred towards all such Hindus who are
> desperate to prove their insecurities by finding something with reasoning
> (just to be in that same league of solomon's treasure hunters) which the
> scriptures itself have said that only prajna or moving beyond reasoning
> towards a purer belief (untouched by their insecurities) can lead to
> knowledge about the God.
>
> Looks like you dont read my mails. I have never said such research is not
> welcome. I would be happy if someone proves that there was Krishna, and
> fairies, and Yeti, and That there were UFOs who actually helped Egyptians 
> to
> build pyramids. however, some how rationality, reasoning and research 
> would
> keep showing otherwise.
>
> Thank you for calling me a bully. I cant stop smiling at this comment. It
> goes on my blog :)
>
> "Aren't you being a bully by showing your desire to prove that you are a
> "street fighter" (a claim made by you or someone who knew you on the 
> list),
> who wouldn't like to give a reasonable chance for negotiation about his
> position?"
>
> -Anupam
>
>
> On 9/1/09, taraprakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all and Anupam. Your hatred towards anything to do with Hindus is
>> clear, but not understandable. Whether Krishna's existence was a fact, as
>> this scientist suggests with a reasoning, or whether it was myth, as you 
>> are
>> claiming without actually substantiating your claim, can be proved with
>> research. It may not be decissive but if someone wants to do a research 
>> on
>> it, what's wrong in it? Aren't you being a bully by showing your desire 
>> to
>> prove that you are a "street fighter" (a claim made by you or someone who
>> knew you on the list),  who wouldn't like to give a reasonable chance for
>> negotiation about his position?
>>
>> Finally if we all were to become wary of things that would offer 
>> skeletons
>> from the closet, would there be any investigation in to massacres, there
>> would actually be no teaching of history.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "anupam chakravartty" <
>> c.anupam at gmail.com>
>> To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] 'Krishna existed. The school texts are
>> wrong':says nuclear scientist
>>
>>
>> I am wary of anthropological investigations because they always render
>>> skeletons from the closet. Here the scientists are just touching the tip
>>> of
>>> the iceberg in form astrological positions. My expertise in astrology is
>>> as
>>> juvenile as the claim that a character called Krishna existed because
>>> there
>>> was a real planetary position. It certainly is a matter of immense
>>> importance to have more interesting data about the authors of these 
>>> texts
>>> namely Mahabharata and Ramayana. In the sense, a certain way of locating
>>> fictitious event and to make it seem real, locate the event with real 
>>> star
>>> positions. If the aryan feudal battles were recorded with the star
>>> positions, that also is important contribution to the history writing.
>>> Would
>>> be interested to know more about this project rather than basing my
>>> opinion
>>> on a news report. This would be an important revelation and I look 
>>> forward
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> After reading this news report, it take me back to a phase when I was
>>> fascinated with Erick Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods, and then
>>> ... suddenly someone told me about a bunch of people committing
>>> suicide thinking about of the some kind of superior race of aliens
>>> hovering above this planet waiting to take them to heaven.
>>>
>>> -anupam
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Kshamendra
>>>>
>>>> I have no issues with people having interest in all such activities, as 
>>>> I
>>>> include myself in some of these. But I believe there are larger issues 
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> solved for the people across the world, so we need not spend public 
>>>> funds
>>>> on
>>>> such things. What we can ask is for the corporates to fund these 
>>>> things,
>>>> as
>>>> this requires painstaking research and money, which is already in a
>>>> crunch,
>>>> and only once public requirements are fulfilled, we can think of other
>>>> such
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> Rakesh
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