[Reader-list] Fwd: stop the award to narendra modi

Murali V murali.chalam at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 11:25:42 IST 2009


Exactly, but there seems to be a single agenda which is what I am against.

Let there be a protest on all those who have committed mass murders be
not allowed to stand in any elections.

Regards,
V Murali

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Rakesh Iyer<rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Murali
>
> First of all you have diverted from the original topic, but I believe, as I
> have since one lengthy discussion with one of my friends, that we always do
> get diverted from topics to discuss other issues, and what is critical is to
> analyze the arguments raised in those, while not disregarding the main topic
> or its importance.
>
> Having spoken on the subject concerned, I slightly move away to what you
> have mentioned. First of all, a struggle for enhancement of freedoms of
> people must focus on all aspects, and not just on one aspect. Hence,
> focusing on just one Modi or one Gujarat or one Sikh riot or corruption
> alone doesn't help; what is needed is a multi-pronged approach to struggle
> for all kinds of injustices, which may be linked sometimes in very strong
> terms with each other. This needs to be understood. For example, corruption
> can play a significant role in registering false cases or not including
> names of genuine culprits in the FIR's, which can play a role after communal
> riots when the victims wish to get justice but are unable to do so, or
> communal vendetta is launched after these riots in the name of legal action.
>
> Hence, the struggle againstĀ  Modi at one level is not necessarily excluding
> corruption, for it can and may be a part of what happened in that state post
> 2002. Hence, it must certainly be looked at. And on the larger issue of
> money hidden in Swiss banks or elsewhere, certainly it's something which
> must be looked at and nobody on this forum, I believe, would support hiding
> money illegally in these banks for tax evasion purposes.
>
> On the issue of Sikh Riots, yes they were more severe than the Gujarat
> genocide, and to me they too are a genocide or state-sponsored act of
> terrorism, which we usually associate with Pakistan. (I am consciously using
> 'we', for however much I wish to dissociate from the states, I can't, having
> declared to be a citizen and even applying for passport from the state, and
> I believe this is true for all of us on this forum and elsewhere).
>
> They too should deserve justice, which is why I don't think this issue must
> be forgotten, but ironically, the very same People's Union of Civil
> Liberties, which you have mentioned for the Sikh Riot report, has also given
> reports on how the administration dithered and police looked the other way
> while mass murders were carried out, in similar fashion to what happened in
> Delhi.
>
> Nobody has agreed that Rajiv Gandhi and the killers did the right thing
> then, and nobody would agree thatĀ  Modi and the killers did right this time
> as well. Neither were Sikhs as a community in the holistic sense, traitors
> for the action of one person, nor can Muslims be seen as a community as
> traitors, even if for act of a few. Infact, at least in case of Indira
> Gandhi, we can be sure that two Sikh bodyguards were responsible for it
> (though there are people who link a conspiracy theory to her death). But in
> case of Godhra, the truth is still not known, which is why we now have a SIT
> to reinvestigate Godhra incident, after two panels have already given
> diverging rationale for why and how it took place.
>
> Please do go through the following links to find out what the
> PUCL and the PUDR have to say about the violence in Gujarat by the way:
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2002/maro_kapo_balo.pdf
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2002/gujarat-modi.htm
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2002/gujarat-nhrc-submission.htm
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2002/gujarat-violence.htm
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2002/gujarat-media.htm
>
> http://www.pucl.org/gujarat-index.htm
>
> On the issue of Sikh violence, here are the links:
>
> http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Religion-communalism/2003/who-are-guilty.htm
>
> http://www.pucl.org/reports/National/2001/communalism.htm
>
> Hence, the fight for injustice has to be against all kinds of injustices,
> not necessarily against those committed only by particular political parties
> or socio-cultural organizations.
>
> Regards
>
> Rakesh
>


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