[Reader-list] ..and these newspapers say Australians are racist

subhrodip sengupta sub_sengupta at yahoo.co.in
Wed Sep 16 22:51:58 IST 2009


Sharing perceptions is so healthy, when as a bunch u call Ugly and seperate the ugliest, when U call a victim a slut, or a goon.
When U decide to mob up Mohhemmadans, who spread an alternative ideology or things beyond your foresight, u single out for not obeying.  Cheap public entertaintment, Greeks had Matadors and Arenas where they committed such attrocities, we have notion of witchcraft, and stripping women for that. Nothing is wrong, though the joke was at maya not her altar. Eve teasing is the highest show of male shivalry, or citi people commenting at less privelleged shabby people in English as if they were too imprudent to understand what is said. Even these people then use their own dialect at city girls, the problem goes when someone falls vulnerable. Not just physically, but materially or even mentally....Life is not wine, one must not go by package. This again remains a personal note, the attempt remaing ambitious at making a sly joke. The true problem arises in imposing a queer and superficial notion of peace and harmony whcih highlights the Bigotism, as if even
 the Indian Hindu majority states or Australia for that matter were too big states to operate either big by size or big by population. Then one must consider fragmenting and dividing into families, not throwing people out.




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From: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
To: Sudeep K S <sudeep.ks at gmail.com>
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2009 7:33:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] ..and these newspapers say Australians are racist

Dear Sudeep
 
If you have other ghosts or realities troubling you, that is a separate issue. Let us keep it simple as far as the cartoon strip is concerned.
 
If someone finds a silhouetted Mayawati 'ugly' then that is how they see it.. Nothing 'racist' about it, silhouettes have no colour, or caste, or creed or ethnicity.
 
If someone finds "some" statues of Mayawati 'ugly', well they find them 'ugly'. What is racist about that?
 
For that matter If someone were to percieve Mayawati herself as an 'ugly looking' person then that is how he/she sees it. What is racist about that?
 
No question that we have many examples of 'racism' in India, but please dont see it everywhere.
 
Kshmendra

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Sudeep K S <sudeep.ks at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Sudeep K S <sudeep..ks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] ..and these newspapers say Australians are racist
To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 6:46 PM


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:







Dear Sudeep
 
Your explanations and references notwithstanding, I still do not see anything RACIST in the cartoon strip.

 
Kshmendra


Ok.. let us try to come to a common platform before arguing over a word. What do you mean by the word RACIST? According to you, what all would come under racism?

After listening to your answer, I can try to explain better why I feel this cartoon (and also many Delhiites' attitude towards 'South Indians' or many Europeans' attitude towards Indians) is absolutely racist in nature. I would also like to fight a case in the court, it is just that I do not have enough money or time for that.

love
sudeep









From: Sudeep K S <sudeep.ks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] ..and these newspapers say Australians are racist
To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:23 PM





Dear Kshemendra,

'Racism' is a broad term, and in this context, it refers to the cartoonists' definition of 'ugli'ness.

Someone who does not look like 'our women' (the fair, and with whatever features that consitute 'beauty' in our people) gets classified as 'ugly'. This is not far from the discrimination and disrespect that Asians/Africans face for being 'dark-skinned' by fair-skinned people, or the deregatory 'South Indian / Madrasi' tag that some of us have to live with in Delhi.

If you want more help on this, there is a cool 'racism primer' avilable on the net. Incidentally, this one is also a cartoon strip, and guess what, this was pubished by the European nations in their effort to raise awareness about racism. 

See the complete strip here:

"What? Me? A Racist?"
http://www.unc.edu/depts/europe/conferences/Veil2000/multicult_france99/cartoon_raciste_en.pdf

Regards
Sudeep


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:






The cartoon could be considered to be in bad taste wherein indirectly the objectifying of women as "pretty things" is being promoted by mentioning Mayawati as "ugly".
 
But, what is racist about the cartoon?
 
Kshmendra

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Sudeep K S <sudeep.ks at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Sudeep K S <sudeep.ks at gmail.com>
Subject: [Reader-list] ..and these newspapers say Australians are racist
To: reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:21 AM



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