[Reader-list] THE NAKED SECULARISTS

[anupam chakravartty]

Can we have Bipin here please?

http://www.flonnet.com/stories/20100423270808000.htm

Excerpts:

"First of all, in 1980, exactly 20 years after its creation and long
before the Modi dispensation came on the scene and the
Tata-Ambani-Mittal industrial hype involving Gujarat began, Gujarat
was among the three fastest-growing States. Since then it has more or
less occupied that position. Apart from its long history of
mercantilism, Gujarat, like Punjab, is one of the few States with a
long history of migration to foreign countries. The remittances from
abroad further fuelled trade and mercantilism and resulted in rural
prosperity to some degree.

On the other hand, it is also a part of Gujarat’s reality that the
bulk of the State’s people, 77 per cent of whom constitute Other
Backward Classes, Dalits and Adivasis, live in severe conditions of
the impoverishment and marginalisation. The conditions of the latter
two groups are particularly bad. At the same time, communal riots,
which have broken out periodically since 1969, have often served the
purpose of consolidating the OBCs on the one hand and oppressing the
Dalits, the deprived Muslim minority and the poor Parsi landowners on
the other."

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> R. Jagannathan has rightly said, "secularists have proved that what they
> care about is not justice, but their own vanity. India's humbug secularists
> have personalized the definition of secularism for narrow political ends.
> Why is anyone who promotes Gujarat an instant target for secularists? This
> is ideological tyranny".
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> Unfortunately in India, only those are counted as secular who speak for or
> create show to speak for minority.
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> Can anyone explain who is communal and who is secular? Of course congress
> has proved pseudo-secular in many occasions earlier. But, this time they
> have proved communal and also once again proved their dirty vote bank
> tactics/politics. Every one blame or rather fashion to blame BJP as communal
> party, but congress is also communal party. How?
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> They think that by highlighting Gujarat riots on regular interval and this
> is what they are doing since 2002, congress may not get room in Gujarat but
> they think of getting benefit in the rest of the India. Some congress leader
> even told this earlier. By this way actually they spread communalism, isn't
> it? But, they forget one thing. You can fool the people for the couple of
> occasion, but not all the time.
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> Looking to the history since independence, there are so many violence
> occurred even bigger than Gujarat and even some of them state sponsored
> also, but no SC intervene, no SIT formed, no outcry by so called secularist
> and Human activist. Even in Gujarat also in 1985, much larger scale state
> sponsored violence was their but no one even noticed that. What kind of
> justice this is going on?
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> Congress is asking from Bachhan to clarify his stand on 2002 riots. This
> shows the way of congress thinking that riots can be justifiable and this
> shows the communal mind of congress actually. It's question of common sense
> that any form of riots communal/non-communal are always condemnable. So,
> what's the reason to seek clarification from Bachhan or anyone else.
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> Thanks
>
> Bipin
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>
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