[Reader-list] Fw: Visit to Pandit migrant camps in Jammu 2002- A personal account
A.K. Malik
akmalik45 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 19:35:22 IST 2010
Hi,
Can you find an equivalent word for "Forced to flee under threat of violence"?
Regards,
(A.K.MALIK)
--- On Thu, 8/12/10, gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Visit to Pandit migrant camps in Jammu 2002- A personal account
> To: "reader-list at sarai.net" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 6:29 PM
>
>
> A point by point response to Kshmendra’s queries: I am
> engaging in plain talk
> at times and I hope it does not hurt your sentiments
> because that it not the
> intension. I would have ideally desired to take more time
> on this but for my
> other engagements. I hope this is somewhat useful.
>
> K: Would you agree that they were/are not migrants but were
> forced by
> circumstances to seek refuge? Wouldn’t 'refugees' or
> 'internally displaced' be a
> better term? What do you think?
>
> G: I think there are differing views on how and why Pandits
> left. Personally I
> feel the atmosphere would have been really scary. It was
> for us too. Though
> there were some targeted killings and acts of deliberate
> humiliation against
> individual Pandits, it is the larger fear in a more
> diffused form that would
> have threatened the community at large. The tone the
> resistance movement in
> Kashmir started adopting as the time went by and as the
> state became more and
> more repressive, became radical. I think it was best for
> Pandits to have left
> at that time, but at no cost should they have severed
> political and social ties
> with Kashmir and stopped engaging with the discourse in
> Kashmir.
>
>
> I am not an expert on nomenclature of people who are
> displaced nor did I want to
> derive any political mileage out of calling them
> ‘migrants’. The reason why I
> may have preferred to use the word ‘migrant’ was not to
> get into a similar
> debate on nomenclature with Kashmiri Muslims who use this
> word and thus lose the
> affect I was trying to communicate in political jargon.
> This report was
> presented before an open public audience in Srinagar.
>
> K: Do you think this exercise can be duplicated with this
> time around the
> Kashmiri Pandits visiting Kashmir and similar arrangements
> for them to meet at
> least some of those who have similarly suffered intense
> miseries and more? Is
> there any such existing mechanism?
>
> G: Though no permanent mechanism exists, I can put you
> across to friends who can
> and will help you, including some who were part of the
> earlier initiative. If
> you are really serious you, should use a reasonably neutral
> or credible base to
> make such a sensitive move. Even just as a thought, it is
> appreciable.
>
> K: Your 2002 report concludes with the comment "a
> tremendous and deep felt
> desire to restore the broken relationships and the way of
> life that has been
> lost." Do you think that sentiment still exists? Can the
> gulf of 'broken
> relationships' be bridged, by word and action and some
> sort of a 'return'? If
> yes; How?
>
> G: I was referring to the energy we felt in the gathering
> of over hundred
> people who turned up in Porkhu and the number of families
> and individuals we met
> outside the camp.
>
>
> There is no discourse regarding this in the public sphere
> at the moment. People
> have obvious pressing concerns regarding their survival in
> the ongoing violence
> and repression.
>
> Individually many people retain personal contacts and feel
> the sentiment.
> Politically no group opposes return of Pandits and all have
> a stated position of
> wanting the Pandits to return. Personally I think
> possible return of Pandits is
> hostage to the resolution of Kashmir problem in a civilized
> manner. Redemption
> of all Kashmirs is in seeking such a solution. The more
> bloodshed there is, and
> the longer it takes, the harder it will get. I think in
> the meanwhile if more
> and more Pandits engage with Kashmir from a moral and
> principled perspective
> rather than a jingoistic and demonizing manner like it
> happened near Jantar
> Mantar, Kashmiri Muslims are actually large hearted,
> accommodative and
> gregarious… and you know it.
>
> K: Connectedly, why do you think it is seen necessary by
> the Kashmiri Pandits
> still residing in Kashmir to go and weep in front of SAS
> Geelani and beg for
> protection?
>
> G: It shouldn’t be necessary and it is shocking. But a
> society in which naked
> dance of brutality and violence takes place on a daily
> basis will throw up some
> deranged people, don’t you think. You should not expect
> otherwise.
>
>
> K: Connectedly, why was there no hue and cry by the much
> vaunted Civil Society
> of Kashmir when Kashmiri Pandits were told that they have
> to be part of the
> Tehreek?
>
> G:Were they! By whom? What exactly did they mean? It
> is possible people would
> have expected Pandits to have acted as a buffer between the
> Indian state which
> was becoming more and more communal as the people engaged
> in a political
> struggle, especially when it unleashed violence on the
> masses and not expect
> Pandits to be aloof and thus tacitly support the Indian
> state.
>
> K: Connectedly, if the overwhelming sentiment amongst
> Kashmiri Muslims (who
> desire separation from India) is towards an Independent
> Kashmir why does SAS
> (Kashmir should be with Pakistan) Geelani get the kind of
> space he does without
> receiving strong condemnation?
>
> The state gives him space and locks up or discredits the
> moderates. Secondly,
> more the oppression more radical the population will
> become. Many people hate
> Geelani personally, but their respect for him is increasing
> because of his
> constant unflinching stand. Various moderates were pulled
> into secret or open
> talks by the state and then discredited by exposing the
> secret talks or because
> the Indian sate did not budge an inch and thus the
> moderates were seen to have
> brought humiliation upon the people who believe their stand
> is just.
>
> In response to the reponse to the earlier post:
>
> With respect to the post about Kashmiri Pandits having lost
> their Kashmiriat by
> an ordinary Muslim participant, it was to demonstrate how
> the Pandit performance
> at Jantar Mantar was received by the people, for its sheer
> insensitivity in
> terms timing and not the politics they might otherwise
> uphold. Attacking the
> people who are seeking separatism while brandishing a
> National flag and
> counterpoising Pandit suffering to undermine the loss
> suffered, even while the
> blood is still dripping off the bodies in Kashmir, was
> grossly insensitive. It
> is like you turn up on my child’s funeral and try to
> disrupt it because you too
> have suffered loss some twenty years before.
>
> As for the suffering in exile it is very sad, but
> Kashmiri’s in Kashmir are not
> exactly home and safe.
>
> I agree that there is a set of people seeking Azadi for
> Islam but it does not
> constitute a majority. And even among those who apparently
> say they stand for
> Islam, for a great many, their interpretation of Islam
> itself means
> accommodation of and justice for all.
>
> At the moment people more sure of what they do not want,
> rather than what
> exactly they want. Pandits could have been a great help
> in shaping and steering
> this discourse (like some of them did as the fall of the
> Maharaja precipitated,
> Bhushan Bazaz to mention just one) had they not
> ideologically succumbed to the
> Hindu right wing in great numbers.
> Best,
> Gowhar
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: "reader-list at sarai.net"
> <reader-list at sarai.net>;
> gowhar fazli
> <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 4:05:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Visit to Pandit migrant
> camps in Jammu 2002- A
> personal account
>
>
> Dear Gowhar
>
> I understand.
>
> No easy answers.
>
> Take care
>
> Kshmendra
>
> --- On Thu, 8/12/10, gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >From: gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [Reader-list] Fw: Visit to Pandit migrant
> camps in Jammu 2002- A
> >personal account
> >To: "reader-list at sarai.net"
> <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:54 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Very pertinent questions on both my posts requiring
> serious reflection Kshmendra
> >
> >and I would not make light of them by replying a
> hurry. I must confess that I
> >am personally struggling with ambivalences often
> between mutually exclusive and
> >
> >contradictory concerns and may not have clear answers
> for everything. However i
>
> >promise I will try. Thanks for reading the whole
> thing.
> >
> >In the meanwhile others who may have energy to engage
> may go ahead.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> >To: "reader-list at sarai.net"
> <reader-list at sarai.net>;
> gowhar fazli
> ><gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 3:25:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Visit to Pandit migrant
> camps in Jammu 2002- A
> >personal account
> >
> >
> >Dear Gowhar
> >
> >Thank you for sharing this.
> >
> >Would you agree that they were/are not migrants but
> were forced by circumstances
> >
> >to seek refuge? Wouldnt 'refugees' or 'internally
> displaced' be a better term?
> >What do you think?
> >
> >Do you think this exercise can be duplicated with this
> time around the Kashmiri
>
> >Pandits visiting Kashmir and similar arrangements for
> them to meet at least some
> >
> >of those who have similarly suffered intense miseries
> and more? Is there any
> >such existing mechanism?
> >
> >Your 2002 report conclude with the comment "a
> tremendous and deep felt desire
> >to restore the broken relationships and the way of
> life that has been lost." Do
> >
> >you think that sentiment still exists? Can the gulf
> of 'broken relationships' be
> >
> >bridged, by word and action and some sort of a
> 'return'? If yes; How?
> >
> >Connectedly, why do you think it is seen neccessary by
> the Kashmiri Pandits
> >still residing in Kashmir to go and weep in front of
> SAS Geelani and beg for
> >protection?
> >
> >Connectedly, why was there no hue and cry by the much
> vaunted Civil Society of
> >Kashmir when Kashmiri Pandits were told that they have
> to be part of the
> >Tehreek?
> >
> >Connectedly, if the overwhelming sentiment amongst
> Kashmiri Muslims (who desire
>
> >separation from India) is towards an Independent
> Kashmir why does SAS (Kashmir
> >should be with Pakistan) Geelani get the kind of space
> he does without receiving
> >
> >strong condemnation?
> >
> >Kshmendra
> >
> >
> >--- On Thu, 8/12/10, gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> >>Subject: [Reader-list] Visit to Pandit migrant
> camps in Jammu 2002- A personal
>
> >>account
> >>To: "reader-list at sarai.net"
> <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >>Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 11:51 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>Visit to Pandit migrant camps in Jammu 2002- A
> personal account
> >>By Gowhar Fazili
> >>
> >>After the first reconciliation workshop involving
> Kashmiri Pandits and Kashmiri
> >>
> >>
> >>Muslim it was decided that a team of Muslim
> participants would visit migrant
> >>camps in Jammu in continuation of the process that
> had just begun to unfold by
> >
> >
> >>the end of the workshop. We realized that enormous
> amount of courage on part of
> >>
> >>
> >>the participants led them to share their personal
> and collective grief and
> >>suffering. We witnessed that honest sharing can
> transform people and must be
> >>respected and valued. To further explore the spirit
> of oneness in suffering and
> >>
> >>
> >>to take it beyond the confines of the meeting
> venue, a visit by some Kashmiri
>
> >>Muslim participants was to be the next step.
> >>
> >>
> >>Accordingly, my friend and I were deputed to visit
> Jammu in the month of
> >>September and we visited homes of Pandit
> participants residing in and outside
>
> >>the camps and also met with some other members of
> the community. The experience
> >>
> >>
> >>generated so many emotions and thoughts that it
> will take a lifetime to unpack
> >
> >
> >>them but I will try to share some of the
> observations that can be made.
> >>
> >>
> >>When I told some of my friends in Srinagar about
> the plan, they asked why I
> >>should be visiting Pandit camps while the suffering
> is far too greater here in
> >
> >
> >>Kashmir and no one is bothered. There are too many
> widows, orphans, bereaved
> >>and people who have lost their homes and property
> in the ongoing turmoil in the
> >>
> >>
> >>valley, while Pandits in Jammu are better off by
> far. Some said that Pandits
> >>are a pampered lot. Both the central and the
> state government pamper Pandits
> >>and they are living better lives in the safety of
> camps in Jammu than any of us
> >>
> >>
> >>here. They also said that everybody from the
> humanitarian organizations to
> >>politicians visit Jammu camps as a priority while
> we (Kashmiri Muslims) are
> >>merely seen as terrorists who deserve what they
> are undergoing because we are
>
> >>supposedly the source of all trouble.
> >>
> >>
> >>Nevertheless we went ahead with our plan, if only
> to know if the stories that
>
> >>take rounds in Srinagar are true and to what
> extent. How do Pandits themselves
> >
> >
> >>feel about their migration from Kashmir valley,
> which has been their home for
>
> >>ages? Are they living away from their homeland by
> choice? What were the
> >>circumstances, which compelled them to leave? Was
> it merely state policy whisk
> >
> >
> >>Pandits to safety, as many believe in Srinagar or
> was their enough fear in the
> >
> >
> >>atmosphere to have made a community of a such small
> size feel vulnerable and
> >>unsafe? What is it really like for a Kashmiri, used
> to living in spacious house
> >>
> >>
> >>to live in a camp? What is the condition of the
> camps ... and so many questions
> >>
> >>
> >>that could be answered only through experience and
> first hand interaction.
> >>
> >>
> >>Since we arrived in Jammu on the eve of a festival,
> we did not think it prudent
> >>
> >>
> >>to land up in the camps right away. We stayed in a
> hotel and from there called
> >
> >
> >>some people we had met in the reconciliation
> workshop and fixed to visit their
> >
> >
> >>places on the next day. But even before we set out
> for our visits we received
>
> >>an early morning delegation of Pandits associated
> with the Chamber of Commerce.
> >>
> >>
> >>They had heard about our work and were curious to
> know more. They appreciated
>
> >>the idea of faith based reconciliation and assured
> us their support especially
> >
> >
> >>in the section of people associated with trade
> and commerce. They also spoke of
> >>
> >>
> >>the efforts they had made earlier to maintain
> relationship between the members
> >
> >
> >>of the two communities but that they could not
> sustain it for too long. They
> >>also emphasized the need for a place in Jammu so
> that there could be sustained
> >
> >
> >>communication between the people of two
> communities.
> >>
> >>
> >>From then on Anil (one of the participants in the
> workshop) played our host and
> >>
> >>
> >>guided us to residences of the members. He had
> already fixed our schedule for
>
> >>the day and we felt very relaxed to be guided in
> this manner. We began by
> >>visiting members who lived outside the camps. The
> houses we visited looked
> >>similar to the ones in Kashmir as though there were
> a deliberate effort to live
> >>
> >>
> >>back the life as it was in Kashmir. One of the
> houses even had an elaborately
>
> >>and exquisitely designed Chinar like gate. The
> residents explained that this
> >>keeps the memory of my homeland alive. We felt very
> much at home possibly
> >>because of our common culture and the foods that we
> were treated to. The
> >>conversations went on endlessly as they do in
> Kashmir. There was a special
> >>feeling like when we meet relatives separated from
> us for a long time. There
> >>was so much to catch up on. We could sense among
> our hosts a deep longing and
>
> >>love for the homeland. It didn't need to be said it
> was clearly evident by the
> >
> >
> >>manner in which they had maintained continuity with
> their way of life in an
> >>alien land and the profusion artifacts that they
> had surrounded themselves
> >>with. We could also sense genuine gladness in their
> eyes to receive us in their
> >>
> >>
> >>homes and I guess a lot of healing must have taken
> place while we shared about
> >
> >
> >>our experiences and the situations we are faced
> with in either place.
> >>
> >>
> >>The greatest fear that seemed to override the minds
> of most Kashmiri Pandits
> >>was not economic loss but the fear of losing
> community itself in the vast sea
>
> >>of humanity that is India... They so much want to
> remain Kashmiris and so
> >>easily find extension of their selves among the co-
> community of Kashmiri
> >>Muslims. At least with Kashmiri Muslims they can
> share the language, culture
> >>and the local idiom even though their religion is
> different. They can talk to
>
> >>us and share the inherited meanings while it is not
> possible with
> >>co-religionists from other parts of India. In
> Kashmir they also shared a
> >>relationship of mutual respect with other
> Kashmiris, while in a place like
> >>Jammu or Delhi no one recognizes them as a special
> community. They are merely
>
> >>outsiders who are encroaching on the local
> resources. But even now when we meet
> >>
> >>
> >>after thirteen years of separation, we seem to be
> familiar and know how to
> >>address each other and can share so much. In all
> our conversations the use of
>
> >>'we' to signify all Kashmiris including Muslims and
> Pandits was frequent. We
> >>could still identify ourselves as a people apart
> from others.
> >>
> >>
> >>From the homes we visited it was clear how much
> they must have had to struggle
> >
> >
> >>to settle themselves in a place like Jammu. It had
> taken years for some to
> >>finally resolve and make permanent houses in Jammu.
> For a long while they felt
> >
> >
> >>that their stay in Jammu was temporary, hoping to
> return very soon. Some said
>
> >>that they can still not relate to these houses as
> their own, and that whenever
> >
> >
> >>they dream of home they can only visualize their
> houses in Kashmir.
> >>
> >>
> >>I realized the difference between migrating for
> better opportunities like many
> >
> >
> >>of us do and being forced by circumstances to
> migrate from home and having no
>
> >>place to return to. I realized that Pandit
> migration was a tragic event for
> >>Kashmiri community as a whole because they took
> with them so much that was us.
> >
> >
> >>It was especially tragic for the Pandits who feel
> so vulnerable as a community
> >
> >
> >>away from home.
> >>
> >>
> >>From there Anil led us to the camps for the first
> time. Since most of the
> >>participants for our workshop had come from the
> Porkhu camp we went there to
> >>meet up with the people. I must confess that my
> idea of Pandit camps while in
>
> >>Srinagar was that these must be decent flats as
> befit the so-called 'pampered'
> >
> >
> >>community. To my shock the camp can be described no
> better than a slum. Pandit
> >
> >
> >>camps in Jammu are shanty barracks made of plywood
> or single brick walls. In
> >>the barracks each family has been allotted a room
> or if the family is really
> >>large two rooms at the most. The lanes between
> the barracks are narrow and
> >>lined by deep open drains. The residents have
> constructed toilets and small
> >>kitchens and walls around the space on their own.
> Once inside, we felt very
> >>hot. Three children who were sleeping in the room
> where shifted to one side to
> >
> >
> >>make room for the seven men who had visited the
> house. The immediate feeling
> >>that came to our mind was that this was no place
> to live for ten days and these
> >>
> >>
> >>people had managed to live here for more than
> thirteen years. Yet we were
> >>treated very hospitably, as we would be in
> Kashmir. Again we realized that
> >>Kashmiri culture was being lived with a vengeance
> even in terms of the food
> >>they continue to consume like Namkeen Chai and
> traditional Kashmiri bread
> >>(chochwor!) We met up with most of the members who
> had visited Kashmir. Some of
> >>
> >>
> >>the members in the camp had to give serious
> explanation for having participated
> >>
> >>
> >>in the workshop at Gulmarg and had been blamed of
> having made a compromise with
> >>
> >>
> >>Kashmiri Muslims. We had to assure them once again
> that there was no hidden
> >>agenda and that none of the known political
> organizations had anything to do
> >>with our work. We decided to visit the camp once
> again on the next day in order
> >>
> >>
> >>to hear from more people and also to share the idea
> of reconciliation with
> >>them.
> >>
> >>
> >>To our surprise more people turned up for the
> meeting than we were prepared to
> >
> >
> >>face. We expected not more than fifteen to twenty
> people in the meeting. But
> >>the hall meant for marriages and other functions
> began to fill until we had
> >>more than hundred people many of whom did not
> understand why we were there.
> >>Some of the people were charged up due to the
> election campaigns and the offer
> >
> >
> >>made by the central government to give rupees
> seven-lakh assistance for Pandits
> >>
> >>
> >>who chose to return to the valley. One of the
> elderly persons emphasized that
>
> >>they did not want this package because they saw it
> more as an insult added to
>
> >>the injury. He said that the problem of Kashmiri
> Pandits was not about money,
>
> >>but about insecurity and how they can redeem the
> way of life that was lost.
> >>“Would they be able to return the security we
> felt in living among our own
> >>people and how would they ensure that now, with
> the changes that our people
> >>have undergone by living away from each other?”
> >>
> >>
> >>It was clear that some of the people in the camp
> were mistaking us for the
> >>representatives of some political party or the
> central government. After
> >>hearing to some angry expressions some of our hosts
> thought that we must be
> >>asked why we have come to the camps in the first
> place. We began by explaining
> >
> >
> >>that we did not represent any official initiatives
> for rehabilitation of
> >>Kashmiri Pandits and that we have just come as
> concerned individuals who are
> >>not happy with the situation as it exists. “We
> have no offers to make because
>
> >>have nothing to offer except a patient hearing. In
> a sense we feel guilty for
>
> >>not having done enough to stop the migration when
> it took place and also for
> >>not having been in touch for the last thirteen
> years. It is partly to absolve
>
> >>ourselves of that guilt that we have come. We have
> also come to hear from your
> >
> >
> >>experiences and to observe how you people are
> living away from home and what
> >>you have to say.”
> >>
> >>
> >>This brief introduction changed the tone of the
> meeting and then on almost all
> >
> >
> >>the members individually began to share their
> experiences. Some laid emphasis
>
> >>on the unique brotherhood that existed among
> Kashmiri Muslims and Pandits and
>
> >>how they longed for its return, while others
> expressed the pain of living for
>
> >>thirteen long years away from Kashmir. While the
> elderly were very vivid about
> >
> >
> >>their memories of Kashmir and their desire “to at
> least die in Kashmir”, the
> >>younger ones were bitter about the state of
> helplessness and feared whether
> >>their future would be safe if they were to choose
> to return. Some of the
> >>members related the number of times Kashmiri
> Pandits have had to migrate from
>
> >>Kashmir and how every time after the peace was
> restored they returned to their
> >
> >
> >>homeland. They also said that if they were to
> return this time, they would want
> >>
> >>
> >>the surity that they do not have to migrate yet
> again.
> >>
> >>
> >>Some of the younger members were very bitter about
> the circumstances that led
>
> >>them to leave Kashmir and said that under no
> circumstances are they willing to
> >
> >
> >>forget how some of their people were tortured and
> killed. We tried to explain
>
> >>that to reconcile did not mean that one has to
> forget and we did not expect
> >>them to forget what they had experienced. Asking
> one to forget would amount to
> >
> >
> >>disrespecting their pain and suffering. We only
> feel that hate should not be
> >>the motive for our actions and that we must
> forgive without forgetting.
> >>
> >>
> >>One of the members explained how the state was
> maintaining the camps in bad
> >>repair so as to win the sympathy of the foreigners
> and visitors to the camps as
> >>
> >>
> >>a means of propaganda to impress upon them their
> own version of the conflict in
> >>
> >>
> >>Kashmir. He explained that they felt like animals
> kept in a zoo, displayed
> >>whenever the need was felt. The state according
> to them could do better and at
> >
> >
> >>least afford to provide reasonable conditions of
> living for the migrants. The
>
> >>dilapidated condition of the camps was a
> deliberate state policy.
> >>
> >>
> >>Almost all the people appreciated our effort and
> felt that it was in some ways
> >
> >
> >>different from all the other efforts that are being
> made for their return and
>
> >>rehabilitation. They also felt that our efforts
> were in the least sincere and
>
> >>thus need to be expanded. Many emphasized that
> the greater part of the work is
> >
> >
> >>required in Kashmir, as they being a minority do
> not pose a big problem. It is
> >
> >
> >>only when certain receptiveness is created among
> the majority community in
> >>Kashmir that the return of Pandits can be made
> possible.
> >>
> >>
> >>There was a difference of opinion whether they
> should return to their own
> >>respective villages or a separate enclave should be
> created to rehabilitate
> >>them in the valley. For some the texture of the
> villages over the years had
> >>changed so drastically that it was no longer
> possible for them to feel safe in
> >
> >
> >>their old homes. So though the interaction between
> the members of the two
> >>communities should get restored, but for their
> safety they must be settled in
>
> >>an all Pandit habitation. Some felt that this
> arrangement would not be healthy,
> >>
> >>
> >>as it would not help restore old relationship and
> increase suspicion and
> >>segregation.
> >>
> >>
> >>The meeting lasted well over five hours into the
> night and at last when most
> >>people had spoken we sought permission to leave.
> But the people would not let
>
> >>us go and took us back to their homes where more
> rounds of tea and informal
> >>conversation resumed. We had to leave finally
> because of an earlier commitment
> >
> >
> >>to dine with one of our Pandit hosts living outside
> the camp. The conversations
> >>
> >>
> >>at the dinners during our visit, which lasted well
> past midnight, were in my
> >>opinion, most fruitful. They operated in a language
> that can only be possible
>
> >>with the members of ones own community. There was
> endless joking and laughing!
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>To sum it all, I think what we encountered in Jammu
> was beyond our
> >>expectations, a tremendous and deep felt desire to
> restore the broken
> >>relationships and the way of life that has been
> lost. People are cautiously,
> >>willing to explore ... because the stake is worth
> every bit of effort.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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