[Reader-list] The Deception of the Indian Liberal Discourse on Kashmir

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Mani
 
No State can provide a "classless secular democratic society". State is the people and people are nowhere automatically inclined towards running such a State. At best they can strive. There is no example of such a State that has simultaneously or even in exclusion (without abberations) any one  of the 3 elements of 'classless'; 'secular'; 'democratic'.
 
Whatever might be the other arguments for and against a 'Separate State of Kashmir' your analysis of the current problems and their genesis is quite ridiculous.
 
Kshmendra 
 
 

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, A. Mani <a.mani.cms at gmail.com> wrote:


From: A. Mani <a.mani.cms at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The Deception of the Indian Liberal Discourse on Kashmir
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 6:07 AM


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com> wrote:
> An interesting post from the blog Mazameen-e-Ghai`b
> http://bluekashmir.blogspot.com/
> Enjoy.
> Sanjay Kak
>
>
> The Deception of the Indian Liberal Discourse on Kashmir
>
> After two months of almost continuous clampdowns and lockdowns, 50
> systematic killings, and hundreds of incarcerations, the debate in
> India about protests in Kashmir has continued to hover between
> bleeding-heart liberal talk and state attempts at dissimulation. While
> state deception, and the Hindu right racket, is obvious, expected, and
> nothing new, the increased space for liberal discourse has given a
> false impression that there is a change in heart. The liberal
> discourse in India on the question of Kashmir is not open, fair, or
> objective, but often borders on, and oftentimes overlaps, the more
> popular, explicitly nationalist polemics.
>



In Kashmir and other parts of the country, the basic problems are due
to unbridled capitalism and neoliberalism.
Trying to hide these problems with demands for a separate state and
countermeasures does suit those in power at the centre.

But if a separate state can grant a classless secular democratic
society with a 'truly socialist division of labour', then it may be
sensible. Otherwise these separatist movements will perpetuate a cruel
joke on the people. Their agenda does seem to be very lacking and all
these may be just a game to further big business interests (who do not
really care about nationalist boundaries).


Best

A. Mani


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A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc
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