[Reader-list] FIR and this list

Wed Dec 1 10:03:44 IST 2010

I've filed no case against anybody. Stop spreading rumors.

Talking of fiction-writer Arundhati Roy and her gang mates who participated
at the Delhi seminar, there is a fit case against them on various grounds.
Not just sedition. Let the Court take care of rest.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Having business relationship with Kashmiris, personally Samvit, is not what
> I look forward to. There is no need for me to think of it as a real estate
> property unlike you all advocating Panun Kashmir in the same vein. If you
> consider yourself as a Kashmiri, then I guess you should have been able to
> speak against the fortress erected by armed forces, the mis-governance by
> subsequent Indian governments, the gross human rights violations.
> Sub-nationalism, anti nationalism feeds on these things.You explore this
> problem as an anti-India issue, when you have the option of speaking up
> against violations by the successive governments while at the same time,
> supporting the steps taken to resolve this crisis. Look what you offered
> just now as a counter: Panun Kashmir.
>
> anupam
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh yes Anupam, you forgot about the Goshtabas that she was feasting on
> > after she spoke at the Aazadi seminar. In KAshmir it is called
> > Goshtaba diplomacy. Arundhati knows nothing about Kashmir or
> > Kashmiries. She is a fly by night operator and has no business in the
> > Valley. She and people like you try to use your verbal jugglery to
> > promote an anti India agenda. The fact is that Article 370 does not
> > allow people like you to have any business with us Kashmiries. It is
> > our land and that is what it stays. We will make Panun Kashmir out of
> > it even thought it may take hundreds of years. If there is anyone on
> > this forum who needs to zip up it is Arundhati's cronies who are on
> > the payroll of many organizations. Also, I removed the garb of
> > Arundhati being a pro-poor because she wears western bourgeoisie
> > outfits and  goes to expensive gyms. And when she has to address the
> > media she will wear a khadi/cotton sari. You twisted these words to
> > say that I indulged in a "perverted imagination". You are a classic
> > case of Sawan ke andhe ko sab hara hi hara nazar aata hai. (Hindi).
> > One who goes blind in spring, sees only greenery all around!!!
> > -SR
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:54 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Defensive? I used the word "shame". Unlike yours, My hands are tied in
> my
> > > efforts to understand the complexity of issues in this country. Sadly,
> > when
> > > a writer addresses this issues, and expresses her views, she is
> vilified
> > to
> > > the extant that she becomes the subject of your perverted imagination,
> > > Samvit. Her house, where she dwells becomes the object of your
> scrutiny.
> > BUT
> > > NOT KASHMIR. BUT NOT AFSPA. So why should states from North East, the
> > state
> > > of Kashmir demand secession from the Indian state? I dont have to look
> at
> > > historical examples. Your attitudes, Aditya Raj Kaul's attitude speaks
> > > volumes. This is your two paisa bit that you do to counter someone's
> > > statements. it is SHAME, Samvit. Please do not give me the example of
> the
> > > democratic set up of this country.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I know neither Aditya or nor anyone else on this forum but I am
> > >> surprised that if Aditya has registered a complaint why should people
> > >> get so defensive. We have a democratic setup and he has every right to
> > >> go to the court. Similarly, Arundhati and others have every right to
> > >> defend themselves. The Indian judicial system is a multi-tier process
> > >> just for the sake that justice should be done. Why is such a fuss
> > >> being made about it. This is a simple process. We must respect the law
> > >> of the land and if we don't we should be ready to face the
> > >> consqueunces. We all make our choices and have to live by them.
> > >> -SR
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> > c.anupam at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > It shameful that Aditya Raj Kaul, who is hell bent on producing
> false
> > >> > reports on any issue he feels like has also named one of the list
> > >> > members in
> > >> > the complaint, out of his desperation and his understanding of the
> > >> > Kashmir
> > >> > issue.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Sorry but I want now to unsubscribe from these list. If memberrs of
> > >> >> this
> > >> >> list has done that they have shown a flagrant disrespect tor the
> > rights
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> writer to speak freely and to to express its opinions.
> > >> >> A person using the Sate recourses, police and judges to do that,
> has
> > no
> > >> >> right to belong to this list, but since I am not the moderator I
> > choose
> > >> >> ,myself to go and to leave you all with such despicable
> > interlocutors.
> > >> >> Ana
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net>
> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > dear All,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> >
> http://www.mid-day.com/news/2010/nov/301110-News-Delhi-FIR-Kashmiri-separatist-leader-Syed-Ali-Geelani-Arundhati-Roy-sedition.htm
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Members of this list are behind the private complaint that has
> > pushed
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > courts to get an FIR lodged.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > There are member of this list who are named in the FIR.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > So, dear list members, the online and offline flows entangles
> each
> > >> >> > other.
> > >> >> > Lets think hard.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > warmly
> > >> >> > jeebesh
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
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