[Reader-list] FIR and this list

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Wed Dec 1 11:17:19 IST 2010 

Maybe, you shouldn't boost so much about your ignorance Aarti. Read the
Court order in detail before commenting 'anything' that comes to your mind
to save a lady working tirelessly to loot Maoists and Kashmiris.

An FIR is always lodged after brief investigation and when there is
cognizable offense visible. In this case, the Court served notice to Police
on not doing proper investigation. Later, it had to direct them to file FIR
as it was an open and shut case with all evidence at hand added with
eyewitness account.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> aditya,
> Seeking court order is the easiest thing in this country. how do you
> substantiate "paid mob"? where is your proof? who has paid them?
>
> anupam
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Aaarti, you can continue to imagine whatever you want.. just that by that
>> imagination you may never be able to change a hypocrite Arundhati Roy and
>> her men on this forum. Court order is a setback to her paid mob on this
>> forum and otherwise.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Aditya,
>> >
>> > Spreading rumours is your forte. We would never presume to usurp your
>> > distinguished position as the prime spreader of defamatory slander and
>> lies.
>> > So don't worry.
>> >
>> > warm regards
>> > Aarti
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <
>> kauladityaraj at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've filed no case against anybody. Stop spreading rumors.
>> >>
>> >> Talking of fiction-writer Arundhati Roy and her gang mates who
>> >> participated
>> >> at the Delhi seminar, there is a fit case against them on various
>> grounds.
>> >> Not just sedition. Let the Court take care of rest.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>> c.anupam at gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Having business relationship with Kashmiris, personally Samvit, is
>> not
>> >> what
>> >> > I look forward to. There is no need for me to think of it as a real
>> >> estate
>> >> > property unlike you all advocating Panun Kashmir in the same vein. If
>> >> you
>> >> > consider yourself as a Kashmiri, then I guess you should have been
>> able
>> >> to
>> >> > speak against the fortress erected by armed forces, the
>> mis-governance
>> >> by
>> >> > subsequent Indian governments, the gross human rights violations.
>> >> > Sub-nationalism, anti nationalism feeds on these things.You explore
>> this
>> >> > problem as an anti-India issue, when you have the option of speaking
>> up
>> >> > against violations by the successive governments while at the same
>> time,
>> >> > supporting the steps taken to resolve this crisis. Look what you
>> offered
>> >> > just now as a counter: Panun Kashmir.
>> >> >
>> >> > anupam
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Oh yes Anupam, you forgot about the Goshtabas that she was feasting
>> on
>> >> > > after she spoke at the Aazadi seminar. In KAshmir it is called
>> >> > > Goshtaba diplomacy. Arundhati knows nothing about Kashmir or
>> >> > > Kashmiries. She is a fly by night operator and has no business in
>> the
>> >> > > Valley. She and people like you try to use your verbal jugglery to
>> >> > > promote an anti India agenda. The fact is that Article 370 does not
>> >> > > allow people like you to have any business with us Kashmiries. It
>> is
>> >> > > our land and that is what it stays. We will make Panun Kashmir out
>> of
>> >> > > it even thought it may take hundreds of years. If there is anyone
>> on
>> >> > > this forum who needs to zip up it is Arundhati's cronies who are on
>> >> > > the payroll of many organizations. Also, I removed the garb of
>> >> > > Arundhati being a pro-poor because she wears western bourgeoisie
>> >> > > outfits and  goes to expensive gyms. And when she has to address
>> the
>> >> > > media she will wear a khadi/cotton sari. You twisted these words to
>> >> > > say that I indulged in a "perverted imagination". You are a classic
>> >> > > case of Sawan ke andhe ko sab hara hi hara nazar aata hai. (Hindi).
>> >> > > One who goes blind in spring, sees only greenery all around!!!
>> >> > > -SR
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:54 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>> >> c.anupam at gmail.com
>> >> > >
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > Defensive? I used the word "shame". Unlike yours, My hands are
>> tied
>> >> in
>> >> > my
>> >> > > > efforts to understand the complexity of issues in this country.
>> >> Sadly,
>> >> > > when
>> >> > > > a writer addresses this issues, and expresses her views, she is
>> >> > vilified
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > > the extant that she becomes the subject of your perverted
>> >> imagination,
>> >> > > > Samvit. Her house, where she dwells becomes the object of your
>> >> > scrutiny.
>> >> > > BUT
>> >> > > > NOT KASHMIR. BUT NOT AFSPA. So why should states from North East,
>> >> the
>> >> > > state
>> >> > > > of Kashmir demand secession from the Indian state? I dont have to
>> >> look
>> >> > at
>> >> > > > historical examples. Your attitudes, Aditya Raj Kaul's attitude
>> >> speaks
>> >> > > > volumes. This is your two paisa bit that you do to counter
>> someone's
>> >> > > > statements. it is SHAME, Samvit. Please do not give me the
>> example
>> >> of
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > democratic set up of this country.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I know neither Aditya or nor anyone else on this forum but I am
>> >> > > >> surprised that if Aditya has registered a complaint why should
>> >> people
>> >> > > >> get so defensive. We have a democratic setup and he has every
>> right
>> >> to
>> >> > > >> go to the court. Similarly, Arundhati and others have every
>> right
>> >> to
>> >> > > >> defend themselves. The Indian judicial system is a multi-tier
>> >> process
>> >> > > >> just for the sake that justice should be done. Why is such a
>> fuss
>> >> > > >> being made about it. This is a simple process. We must respect
>> the
>> >> law
>> >> > > >> of the land and if we don't we should be ready to face the
>> >> > > >> consqueunces. We all make our choices and have to live by them.
>> >> > > >> -SR
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>> >> > > c.anupam at gmail.com>
>> >> > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > It shameful that Aditya Raj Kaul, who is hell bent on
>> producing
>> >> > false
>> >> > > >> > reports on any issue he feels like has also named one of the
>> list
>> >> > > >> > members in
>> >> > > >> > the complaint, out of his desperation and his understanding of
>> >> the
>> >> > > >> > Kashmir
>> >> > > >> > issue.
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ana Valdés <
>> agora158 at gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >> Sorry but I want now to unsubscribe from these list. If
>> memberrs
>> >> of
>> >> > > >> >> this
>> >> > > >> >> list has done that they have shown a flagrant disrespect tor
>> the
>> >> > > rights
>> >> > > >> >> of
>> >> > > >> >> a
>> >> > > >> >> writer to speak freely and to to express its opinions.
>> >> > > >> >> A person using the Sate recourses, police and judges to do
>> that,
>> >> > has
>> >> > > no
>> >> > > >> >> right to belong to this list, but since I am not the
>> moderator I
>> >> > > choose
>> >> > > >> >> ,myself to go and to leave you all with such despicable
>> >> > > interlocutors.
>> >> > > >> >> Ana
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> > dear All,
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.mid-day.com/news/2010/nov/301110-News-Delhi-FIR-Kashmiri-separatist-leader-Syed-Ali-Geelani-Arundhati-Roy-sedition.htm
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> > Members of this list are behind the private complaint that
>> has
>> >> > > pushed
>> >> > > >> >> > the
>> >> > > >> >> > courts to get an FIR lodged.
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> > There are member of this list who are named in the FIR.
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> > So, dear list members, the online and offline flows
>> entangles
>> >> > each
>> >> > > >> >> > other.
>> >> > > >> >> > Lets think hard.
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> > warmly
>> >> > > >> >> > jeebesh
>> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> > > >> >> >
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