[Reader-list] On Repeated Defamatory Postings on this List

Shuddhabrata Sengupta shuddha at sarai.net
Wed Dec 1 18:52:29 IST 2010


Dear Atreyi.

Definitely. Pleass do.

best

Shuddha

On 01-Dec-10, at 8:37 AM, Atreyi Dasgupta wrote:

> Dear Suddha,
>
> Would it be okay to circulate this mail or the part containing  
> Arundhati/Pradip's response?
>
> I have tried several times to write to the mail list, with no  
> success. Hence, I am copying this to you personally.
>
> - Atreyi
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta  
> <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> This is the third time since the 17th of November that Aditya Raj  
> Kaul has dished out unverified untruths on this list regarding the  
> alleged matter of Arundhati Roy having grabbed tribal land. While  
> one could ignore it the first time, even the second time, I think  
> when it comes to the third time, it needs to be taken cognizance of  
> seriously. We all need to reflect on this, and think about how we  
> can get beyond this.
>
> Aditya Raj Kaul's statements to this effect are carried in his  
> response to Ana Valdes to the Reader List - Re: [Reader-list] the  
> latest stupidity of arundhati roy - comparing her utterances on  
> kashmir with those of nehru  Date:9 November 2010 11:51:07 PM GMT 
> +05:30
> The posting can be seen online at -
> http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2010-November/027581.html
>
> Additiionally, he has once again abused this list to utter again in  
> this posting the utter falsity (echoing the Pioneer Newspaper) that  
> Arundhati Roy articulated a slogan saying  Kashmir wanted freedom  
> (Azaadi) from 'Bhookha Nanga Hindustan' ('Hungry, Naked India) when  
> in fact she had categorically criticized this slogan. This will be  
> borne out by any examination of any recordings of what was said on  
> the 21st of October by Ms. Roy at the LTG Auditorium in Delhi. As  
> will the baselessness of the charge of sedition brought by some  
> vested interests against Arundhati Roy and others, including myself.
>
> I have myself posted a clarification to this effect (whether or not  
> Ms. Roy endorsed the 'Bhookha, Nanga Hindustan' slogan on the list,  
> (see - http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2010-October/ 
> 027043.html ) in response to a previous posting made by Aditya Raj  
> Kaul, and I find it shocking that despite this, he should choose to  
> repeat this lie, here, yet again. This has also been pointed out in  
> a posting made shortly recently s, by Baruk Feddabonn at - http:// 
> mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2010-November/027582.html
>
> I am also referring here to the canard forwarded by Aditya Raj  
> Kaul, emanating recently from media entities like the Pioneer  
> Newspaper, that Arundhati Roy, or her husband Pradip Krishen, have  
> 'illegally occupied tribal land' in Pachmarhi in the state of  
> Madhya Pradesh.
>
> The origins of this story lie in the late nineties, when vested  
> interests in the real estate and hotel business began harassing  
> Pradip Krishen in Pachmarhi in the late 90s for his work as a  
> campaigner on environmental issues . The matter was reported then  
> in India Today, and in the Indian Express (which seem, in general,   
> to have been different entities then,  from what they are now). The  
> links are below, and can be easily accessed online by anybody. I am  
> offering these links for consideration so that there is some  
> perspective on this episode, and so that we can begin to see  
> clearly how this untruth is being manufactured,  by newspapers and  
> media concerns like The Pioneer, and on this list by the likes of  
> Aditya Raj Kaul.
>
> ----------------------
> First, the India Today Report from 1999.
>
> 1. God of Small Towns
> N.K. SIngh, India Today, July 12, 1999
> http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/mp.html
>
> You can read the whole story by following the link, but for those  
> who do not have patience to do so, here is a substantial excerpt :
>
> "...The SADA (The Pachmarhi Special Area Development Authority)  
> notice smacks of Kafkaesque dispensation of justice. If land-use at  
> Bariaam was frozen by a legislation dating back to 1973, how could  
> Krishen and two others -- both of them government officials -- who  
> purchased the land get the transfer registered in 1992 at a land- 
> records office of the state government? Besides, Krishen claims  
> that hundreds of houses built in the areas under SADA have gone  
> unnoticed.
> Roy and Krishen feel that the state offensive against them was  
> caused by their opposition to the TCPO's Draft Development Plan for  
> Pachmarhi published in September last year which, they allege, was  
> a "sell-out" to the hotel lobby. The state Government subsequently  
> appointed Krishen a member of the committee to hear public  
> objections to the Draft Plan. He submitted a number of objections,  
> including one by his wife that condemned the plan's authors for  
> conspiring to "convert Pachmarhi into the Las Vegas of Madhya  
> Pradesh". Says Roy: "This infuriated both the hoteliers' lobby as  
> well as its acolytes in the Planning Department. The notice to  
> Pradip (Krishen) of March 12 is a direct outcome of their animosity  
> and vested interests."
>
> The report continues -
>
> " ...The alleged violation of the law in Bariaam, even if  
> technical, by the landowners pales into insignificance when  
> compared with illegal developments on the other side of the Bariaam  
> Lake. Many senior government officials have purchased land in areas  
> falling within the Pachmarhi wildlife sanctuary. "It is highly  
> damaging to the environment of the area," says Subharanjan Sen,  
> director of the Satpura National Park. A Jabalpur businessman,  
> Ashish Agrawal, even started construction on the site last month by  
> clearing a patch of jungle "for agricultural activities".
> Last month Agrawal's half-built construction was demolished by the  
> Hoshangabad district administration after Satyanand Mishra,  
> principal secretary of the Housing and Environment Department,  
> visited the site following the controversy over the notice served  
> on Krishen. Obviously there were red faces in Bhopal after protests  
> by an internationally famous literary figure, and the state  
> Government needed to absolve itself of the charge of selectively  
> punishing wrong-doers. Acting upon Mishra's subsequent report, the  
> state Government is planning to crack down on all encroachers. At  
> Bariaam, notices have been served -- though belatedly -- on the  
> Krishens' neighbours, who include novelist Vikram Seth's sister  
> Aradhana Seth.
> Roy has said that "whatever our faults, land grabbing and  
> acquisitiveness are not among them". Their house, like Roy's novel,  
> is a finely crafted token of aesthetic values. Perhaps their  
> trouble began when they sought to preserve the environment by  
> opposing the commercialisation of Pachmarhi. But Roy shouldn't lose  
> heart because her battle with the local authorities may witness the  
> genesis of her next novel..."
>
> And here is the Indian Express story, four years after 1999
>
> 2. MP govt spares rod for minister, spoils Pachmarhi
> Hartosh Singh Bal, Indian Express, August 20, 2003
> http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/mp.html
>
> Here, is an extract from the Indian Express story
>
> "Conservator of Forest and Park Director B.D. Sankhwar says he does  
> not blame people like Pradip Kishen and Aradhana Seth for the  
> illegal constructions. ‘‘In most cases, I don’t blame the  
> individuals concerned. They obtained the necessary revenue  
> documents, including registries and mutations."
>
> -------------------
>
> Recently, after eight years, since this sordid episode last saw the  
> light of day, The Pioneer (see - http://www.dailypioneer.com/297320/ 
> Arundhati-Roy--Pradip-Krishen-grab-tribal-land-in-MP.html) has  
> brought up, once again, the sludge that the above two stories  
> (indian Express and India Today) successfully countered, in 1999  
> and 2003.
>
> No doubt this was done as part of the concerted campaign to harass  
> Ms. Roy and those close to her. In one specific instance, no effort  
> was taken to publish accurate counter-points, even when they were  
> offered, after being solicited, as will be evident  further below.  
> Aditya Raj Kaul's posting of this material on this list needs to be  
> seen in this same murky light.
>
> A major news channel, in a query sent to Ms. Roy on the 19th of  
> November, 2010 (see below) detailed the charges that they had made  
> in a story prepared for broadcast on their channel, and asked her  
> for a response.
>
> Ms Roy,  responded to this query on the same day, by forwarding a  
> mail to them containing a reply from Pradip Krishen. As far as I  
> know, no media platform has chosen to make Mr. Krishen's response  
> to this slander public so far. Perhaps because it totally takes the  
> wind out of the sails of the allegations. In the interests of  
> clarification on this matter, and to ensure that this list is not  
> repeatedly abused by these attempts at slander. I am reproducing  
> below, Mr. Krishen's (and Ms. Roy's) response.
>
> --------------
>
> 1. Arundhati Roy's Response to the queries about alleged grabbing  
> of Tribal Land
>
>
> Dear ______,
> Clearly while the rest of the world is riveted to what some of your  
> notable colleagues in the media have been up to with the 2G  
> business, you have something different on your mind! I hope you are  
> having fun with this story about my "adivasi land grab". Thanks for  
> taking the trouble to check the facts, all of which are not only  
> false but also defamatory. I am attaching Pradip's response which  
> he has already sent to you. Better luck next time!
>
> All best
> Arundhati
>
> 2. Pradip Krishen's response (forwarded in the body of the above  
> email)
>
> This is in response to a message that Arundhati Roy forwarded to me  
> just now:
>
> I'm afraid you have got your facts VERY wrong.
>
> Here are the main facts pertaining to the points you mention:
>
> I bought the land in question, approx 1,300 sq meters of land in  
> 1992. The land in question was not Adivasi land. The previous  
> owners were Shareef Ahmed, Shabra Begum and 11 others, all  
> residents of Pachmarhi. A sale deed was executed in the Sub- 
> registrar's office in Piparia, and the land was demarcated by the  
> Patwari. I built my house the following year.
>
> It is true that Vijay Singh accused me and 2 others of encroaching  
> on his land in 2003. The land in question was measured by the  
> Tehsil officers after the complaint was filed, and it was found  
> that no encroachment had in fact taken place, and Vijay Singh  
> signed a statement retracting his complaint. The Case was closed as  
> will be borne out in the Tehsil records
>
> The third point about the Forest Deptt is as follows: I was served  
> with a notice in 1999, 6 years after I registered the purchase of  
> my land, to say that no sale or transfer of land was permitted in  
> the area  because the entire area was notified as an intended  
> Sanctuary in 1977.
> I replied that I had bought the land by due legal process and that  
> if no sale was permitted then the Revenue authorities should not  
> have registered the sale. Besides, since 1977, thousands of sales  
> had taken place within the notified area, and why was I being  
> singled out?
> This case is now in the High Court of MP.
>
> Further to all these facts regarding the land in Pachmarhi, I want  
> you to know that Arundhati has absolutely nothing to do with my  
> Pachmarhi land. We were not married when I bought the land in 1992,  
> and she is not registered as the owner. She has not visited the  
> house for over 12 years. I'm afraid that the Press is trying to  
> drag her name in only to try and defame her unecessarily.
>
> Pradip Krishen
>
> 3. The Media Channel's query to Arundhati Roy
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, The media channel wrote to Ms. Roy :
>
> Re: Request for a Byte/Statement
>
> Ma'am,
>
> We are forwarding you one of the story on which we would like to  
> have a reaction of you in form of a sound byte or perhaps a statement.
>
>
> Details:
>
> STD: Writer-activist Arundhati Roy is embroiled in fresh  
> controversy over encroachment in Panchmarhi, a hill resort in  
> Madhya Pradesh… The Shivraj Singh government is contemplating  
> action against Arundhati`s husband for building his house in  
> protected wildlife area…. The Times Now investigation finds out  
> that though the State government has booked the case for violating  
> the forest act, it is also a case of encroaching upon a poor  
> tribals land.
>
> V/O1: This is the bungalow owned by Arundhatis husband, filmmaker  
> Pradeep Krishan in Bariaam village of Panchmari, a hill resort in  
> Madhya Pradesh… now at the centre of controversy… The controversy  
> erupted in 2003 after the local Pipariya Sub Divisional Magistrate,  
> SDM had served notice to Roys husband and three others including  
> Aradhana Seth, sister of writer Vikram Seth, for violating wild  
> life act 1972 section 18 (1). The Forest Act of 1972 bans the sale  
> of land in notified forest areas. Section 18 of the law bars buying  
> and selling of notified forest land... This village falls within  
> the Special Area Development Authoritys jurisdiction SADA. The SADA  
> had also served a order of stop building order on Roys husband..  
> The notice says that under section 16 of of the State Town and  
> country planning act, 1973 the land use of Panchmarhi and its  
> neighbouring areas had been frozen… Arundhatis husband had then  
> moved to the State High court against the SDM notice.. However the  
> MP High Court in March 2010, has asked Arundhatis husband, Pradeep  
> Kishan, to appear before a sub-divisional magistrate…
>
> BITE ONE: HOSHANGABAD COMMISSIONER MANOJ SHRIVASTAV (transcript  
> does not detail what is said in this byte)
>
> V/O2: But your channel in Barriaam village finds out that Arundhati  
> also invites the charge for encroaching on tribal land… In fact,  
> the whole controversy came in picture in 2003 after a local Gond  
> tribal Vijay Singh filed a complaint with the SDM, against Roys  
> husband and others for encroaching on his land… In his affidavit,  
> Vijay had accused them of constructing this cemented road to their  
> bungalows without bothering to obtain permission or pay adequate  
> compensation… Vijay passed away last year…Now his wife says that  
> there is no justice in this case and Arundhati has not paid any  
> compensation for encroaching on her land.
>
> BITE TWO:       SUKHWATI WIFE OF VIJAY SINGH ranscript does not  
> detail what is said in this byte)
>
> V/O3:  The land record officer - Patwari confirms that in 2003  
> after the tribal Vijays complaint he had measured the land and  
> found that Arundhatis husband had encroached upon the tribals land.
>
> BITE THREE: LAND RECORD OFFICER JITENDRA SINGH (transcript does not  
> detail what is said in this byte)
>
> PTC: The big question is how Arundhati Roy managed to get land in  
> this protected wild life sanctuary while throwing a all the rules  
> to the air. Even a bigger question would be how will Arundhati, who  
> is better know for her fight for downtrodden class, justify  
> encroaching upon the land of poorest of the poor tribals…
>
> (Query ends here)
>
> A Brief Glossary: STD stands for Studio, V/O for Voice Over, PTC  
> for 'Piece to Camera', a 'Byte' is a term used to describe the  
> airing of an excerpted statement made by an interviewee - all these  
> are standard terms used while scripting and planning a television  
> news story, or in transcripts of television news stories.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> I hope that all this sheds some light on the matter. I apologize  
> for the length and elaboration of this mail, but I think these  
> facts needs to be placed on record, so as to ensure that this list  
> does not become the dumping ground of the garbage of lies and rumours.
>
> Finally, I think we need to think seriously about what means this  
> list might need to take to safeguard its integrity from this kind  
> of repeated defamatory mischief and malicious slander.
>
> best
>
> Shuddha
>
>
> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>
>
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Shuddhabrata Sengupta
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