[Reader-list] FIR and this list

Sat Dec 4 22:19:11 IST 2010

I often wonder as to why it is that people who are really right (and not on
the side of the Right), are on the side of Truth, are on the side of what is
ethical (with capital T), i mean people who stand for the oppressed, their
struggles or themselves have decided not to tolerate the tyrant and get rid
of their chains, are always on the defensive, as if being offensive, being
rude, being aggressive, being violent to the goons on the Right is
corrupting and sinful. Does being defensive, being a party who is always at
the receiving end of violence catapult one to a higher moral pedestal? And
if that is so, should one then infer that the Evil shall always be on the
ascendant, always be the party charging at the people, always be the
aggressor, always be the ruler, always be the one to wield Power?

When shall the good people decide to be really BAD to people who are really
really Bad, are Evil, are doing everything that is UN-ETHICAL?

Should people who are in the process of breaking their chains be apologetic
about it, act in bad faith, as if being good, being on the side of what is
ethically right means never to be in the commanding position, never to be in
charge of the Power, never be the aggressor, never be violent, never be a
TERROR-ist, never send shivers of TERROR through the spine of the Evil?

I think its high time WE reclaim all these categories, these 'virtues' we
ascribe to the Evil (intolerance, aggression, violence, terror! ) and
re-engineer the mainframe of Power, wrest it from the Evil, re-organise the
terms of engagement, reset the variables, redefine the constants of this
non-linear mathematics of Power to our advantage, the advantage of Good, the
Ethical.

There is no other way!

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:47 PM, anuradha mukherjee <anu.mukh at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ana,
> leaving the list shold not be the answer to lumpens pretending to be
> intellects or even political activists. Most of them just aspire to be
> future A Rajas or Nira Radia and get a share in some scam pie, some tasty,
> rich pie. So it is a strategy with them to be obnoxios and scuttle
> discussions. Someone like Samvit does it by being obnoxiously misogynistic,
> others by calling names.
> I would not have a problem with anyone expressing their opinions, but when
> they cross the limit of respectful dissent, I think it is time for them to
> leave.Not you. Such kindergarten tactics like bullying may continue for
> many
> of these people, into the political sphere for some of them.It is just
> disappointing that people who have only begun to participate in political
> discourse are so unabashed about their ignorance, booing and thumbing their
> noses at others all the time. So if they speak, they are patriots, even
> when
> they talk violently. But if someone like A Roy speaks, she deserves an FIR.
> Anuradha
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you, Tapas. Normally I am not a "quitter", dvs I stand for my
> > opinions
> > and try to elaborate my dissensions, the problem is when the tone of a
> > conversation, virtual or in real life, goes sour, when people throw
> > invectives and scourn instead for listening and exchanging.
> > That's the things which make me lose my patience and my pleasure.
> > Best
> > Ana
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tapas Ray [Gmail] <tapasrayx at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Ana,
> > >
> > > Please consider this: for every such person there are at least ten
> > > others who have only contempt for their actions. If you leave, this
> > > majority is reduced and the small minority gets a chance to become the
> > > majority one day.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Tapas
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 November 2010 16:24, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Sorry but I want now to unsubscribe from these list. If memberrs of
> > this
> > > > list has done that they have shown a flagrant disrespect tor the
> rights
> > > of a
> > > > writer to speak freely and to to express its opinions.
> > > > A person using the Sate recourses, police and judges to do that, has
> no
> > > > right to belong to this list, but since I am not the moderator I
> choose
> > > > ,myself to go and to leave you all with such despicable
> interlocutors.
> > > > Ana
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> dear All,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://www.mid-day.com/news/2010/nov/301110-News-Delhi-FIR-Kashmiri-separatist-leader-Syed-Ali-Geelani-Arundhati-Roy-sedition.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> Members of this list are behind the private complaint that has
> pushed
> > > the
> > > >> courts to get an FIR lodged.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are member of this list who are named in the FIR.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, dear list members, the online and offline flows entangles each
> > > other.
> > > >> Lets think hard.
> > > >>
> > > >> warmly
> > > >> jeebesh
> > > >>
> > > >>
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