[Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development

Thu Jun 3 18:58:14 IST 2010

Rajen,

if i were to interpret from what you are saying that there people who crib
and there are those who dont. essentially, if i am not wrong to infer, you
are reducing suffering into binaries. even then what justifies these
sufferings of Muslims in context of gujarat?

anupam

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> So this list has a dictator now to dictate what should be talked and what
> should not be, apart from the censorship of moderation and list
> management...............................?
> And we talk loftly about freedom of expression.!
> love and regards,
> rajen.
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:42 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Rajen,
>>
>> something which you should not do in case of sufferings..selective
>> comparisons. i wouldnt compare tibetans suffering with kashmiris, with the
>> muslims, with jews, with Tamils in Lanka. it would be appreciated if you can
>> talk only about the condition of the muslims in Gujarat with respect to the
>> Sachar committee report.
>>
>> hope you understand some day Rajen,
>>
>> Anupam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
>> rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  What courage is needed to mention about the refugee camps of tibetans
>>> in Bylakuppe and bailahongal in Karnataka, where the hard work, no nonsense
>>> approach to life and skills saw the tibetans rise again from strength to
>>> strength, what courage is needed to mention about the jewish camps where
>>> millions were gassed and subsequent rush to other nations where they were
>>> refugees but integreted with the society to rise as powerful bankers.?What
>>> courage is needed to talk about the brilliance of the next generation of
>>> pandits who studied hard, played harder to acquire skills and achieve higher
>>> lifestyles.?
>>> courage is needed to talk about the camps of useless individuals who
>>> expect all gifts from the system for voting the leaders to power.!
>>> regards,
>>> rajen
>>>
>>>   On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>>> c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bipin Trivedi
>>>>
>>>> you do not have the courage to reply back when list members wanted to
>>>> show
>>>> you the conditions of the relief camps of 2002 survivors in Gujarat.
>>>> what
>>>> are you quoting this report for?
>>>>
>>>> anupam
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM, <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Singapore is also a well-working state. But it's not a democracy.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The Sachar Committee report indirectly challenges other states to
>>>> emulate
>>>> > > Gujarat chief minister's policy of secular development and
>>>> > â€˜nationalise'
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > By Pravin Sheth
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/article/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/Gujarat%E2%80%99s-secular-development.html
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In setting up the Sachar Committee, the UPA government had its own
>>>> > > objectives. Contrary to the expectations of Chief Minister Narendra
>>>> > Modi's
>>>> > > critics, the committee's comparative statewise statistics of
>>>> parameters
>>>> > > like education, employment and income of the Muslim population
>>>> living in
>>>> > > the country proves Gujarat is far ahead of other states, even those
>>>> ruled
>>>> > > by so-called secular parties.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In terms of literacy, Muslims in Gujarat stood at 73.5% as compared
>>>> to
>>>> > the
>>>> > > national average of 59.1. The figure for urban males is 76, and 81
>>>> for
>>>> > > those in rural areas as compared to the national average of 70 and
>>>> 62
>>>> > > respectively in similar categories.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The average literacy rate of Muslim women in urban Gujarat is five
>>>> points
>>>> > > higher than the national average, whereas those in rural Gujarat
>>>> fare
>>>> > even
>>>> > > better with a literacy rate of 57 per cent as compared to the
>>>> national
>>>> > > average of 43.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > A greater percentage of Muslims here have attained primary,
>>>> secondary and
>>>> > > higher-secondary level education. The national average is 60.9%.
>>>> Muslim
>>>> > > children in Gujarat are benefiting from equal opportunities to
>>>> access
>>>> > > secondary schooling as other children.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Take other aspect of economic well-being of Muslims in Gujarat. Here
>>>> > also,
>>>> > > the Sachar Committee dispels the myth.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The report counters the propaganda that injustice is being done to
>>>> the
>>>> > > Muslim community in Gujarat
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The per month per capita income of Muslims in urban Gujarat is an
>>>> average
>>>> > > Rs 875 â€” more than the national average of Rs 804. In contrast, it
>>>> is
>>>> > Rs
>>>> > > 662 in UP, Rs 748 in West Bengal, Rs 811 in Punjab, Rs 803 in Andhra
>>>> > > Pradesh and Rs 837 in Karnataka.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In rural Gujarat, the per capita monthly income of Muslims is 20-25%
>>>> more
>>>> > > than the Muslims living in rural areas of most other states. On an
>>>> > > average, it comes to Rs 668 compared to the national average of Rs
>>>> 553.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In terms of Muslims living below poverty line, Gujarat improved from
>>>> 54%
>>>> > > in 1987-88 to 34% in 2004-2005, showing a healthy pace of
>>>> improvement.
>>>> > > Even in terms of share of Muslims in state employment, it is 5.4% in
>>>> > > Gujarat while it is 2.1% in West Bengal, 3.2% in Delhi and 4.4% in
>>>> > > Maharashtra.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Overall, the total picture counters the propaganda that injustice is
>>>> > being
>>>> > > done to Muslims in Gujarat. The Sachar Committee on educational
>>>> condition
>>>> > > clearly shows that the Muslims of Gujarat are progressing well in
>>>> the
>>>> > > field of education and economic well-being. They are well cared for.
>>>> The
>>>> > > facts on their economic conditions dispel similar myths about their
>>>> being
>>>> > > discriminated against or being denied equal opportunity.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The fact is echoed by the Imam of Jama Masjid in Ahmedabad, who
>>>> > reportedly
>>>> > > commented sometime back "Muslims have an opportunity to prosper in
>>>> the
>>>> > > peaceful environment that the Modi government has created. Modi has
>>>> > > provided an atmosphere which is conducive for those who want to
>>>> trade
>>>> > > peacefully in Gujarat".
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The Sachar report indirectly challenges other states to emulate
>>>> Modi's
>>>> > > policy of secular development and â€˜nationalise' it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Ironically, vociferous secularists are silent regarding the
>>>> findings.
>>>> > They
>>>> > > continue to focus on Modi-1 as branded during the 2002 carnage and
>>>> > > Sohrabuddin encounter â€” a chief minister habitually noted to
>>>> dishonour
>>>> > > the rule of law, a friend of corporate magnets to the detriment of
>>>> > > villagers and SEZ-affected disadvantaged.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > However, there is popularly a more accepted Modi-2 â€” a dynamic CM
>>>> > > realising the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor, the Special
>>>> Investment
>>>> > > Regions, port-based development, â€˜Hopenhagen', BRTS, GDP, and much
>>>> > more.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > But the two Modis fail to merge as some anti-Modi ideologues refuse
>>>> to
>>>> > > discern the significant transformation in his leadership.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Can Modi, hubris-free, demonstrate his transformation to abridge
>>>> this
>>>> > > perception-reality gap?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Source Link:
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/article/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/Gujarat%E2%80%99s-secular-development.html
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rajen.
>>>
>>>
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