[Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development

Bipin Trivedi aliens at dataone.in
Wed Jun 9 12:06:57 IST 2010 

Dear Pawan,

This micronutrient diet project for Anganwadi is very good move and will
have positive impact to inclusive growth. But, someone blocked their mind
and stick to one point agenda only and will never appreciate good things
done by Gujarat government, Narendra Modi. Even victims has move ahead but
wasted interest wants to remain in the past only.

Britta made comment "calculated attack" in terms of Gujarat and my comment
to know the truth for Gujarat and nothing to do with Bhopal truth. Someone
does not understand is not my problem. Someone believes that they are only
knowledgeable for everything and others are totally illiterate!

Thanks
Bipin



-----Original Message-----
From: Pawan Durani [mailto:pawan.durani at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:42 AM
To: anupam chakravartty
Cc: Bipin Trivedi; Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi; sarai list
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-brief/631356/

Anganwadis to provide micronutrient diet to adolescent girls in Gujarat

Cheif Minister Narendra Modi said on Tuesday that the state government
will provide a complete micronutrient diet to adolescent girls in
Gujarat. Introducing micronutrient premix for 44,000 Anganwadis in
Gandhinagar, Modi said the move aims to improve the health of
malnourished children. He said the diet will comprise a premix of four
protein-rich traditional food items — sukhdi, balbhog, upma and siro.
“Seventy-odd food items can be made from the premix, which will be
distributed at the anganwadis.” he added.The premix will be a blend of
soyabean, cereals and pulses containing 18 to 20 per cent protein and
600 gram kilocalories. State Women and Child Welfare Minister Anandi
Patel, who was also present at the function, said Gujarat is the only
state to take this initiative. She added that new facilities like
lavatories and playgrounds were also being provided for students at
47,000 anganwadis across Gujarat. “The government has provided a Rs
100-crore special grant to improve the anganwadi infrastructure.”

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Rajendra,
>
> Few days back while replying on this thread you wrote:
>
> all are humans, some took the sufferings with great courage, some wait
still
> for "government" to solve the issues,and the individuals who make noices
> about the refugees have the business to do so, but not the courage to see
> the best efforts put in by the same humans to get out of the sufferings.Is
> humans following some faith are special..............................i
> wonder.
> regards,
>
> Do you think I should even answer your question? And you have been talking
> about what....selective amnesia.
>
> Anupam
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
>> Calculated attack? What a joke.
>>
>> Do you know any details why this happened? Why was happened? Unless and
>> until you don’t know the real truth think twice before making any
comment.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de [mailto:ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:07 PM
>> To: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi
>> Cc: anupam chakravartty; Bipin Trivedi; sarai list; Britta Ohm;
TaraPrakash
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>
>> Why would you liken a terrible and very irresponsible industrial accident
>> to a calculated attack?
>>
>> > Anupam, may be you have other thoughts that muslims are also humans
like
>> > all
>> > others who suffer in tragic events, but then, why you are quiet when
the
>> > tragedy hit the maximum number of muslims in Bhopal gas tragedy. ? Just
>> > wondering, is it because it was then ruled by different
>> > party...................?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:22 AM, anupam chakravartty
>> > <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I thought the discussion was about the condition of Muslims in Gujarat
>> >> vis-a-vis Sachar committee report, and also about the relief camps.
The
>> >> detractors have succeeded in hijacking the core issue yet again and
>> >> discuss
>> >> what is irrelevant and unneccesary.
>> >>
>> >> In most "successful" states as it is usually projected to its people,
>> >> democracy is only a mask especially if the state is proactively
>> >> projecting
>> >> itself as a democratic nation. Whether an institution, in this case a
>> >> state,
>> >> is democratic, could only be ascertained over a period of time. If i
am
>> >> correctly putting it, the idea of a democracy is not a priori but it
is
>> >> dependent on the experience of the subject. If it is on paper, that is
>> >> not
>> >> good enough to say that the state is democratic. It has been observed
>> >> that,
>> >> apart from addressing large rallies ( a sign of majoritarianism),
>> >> inspecting
>> >> business models of large corporate houses and playing the 'cheif
guest'
>> >> (in
>> >> certain cases for marriages as well), if the head of the state is
saying
>> >> she/he is ruling over a democratic institution, they are either lying
to
>> >> the
>> >> people or they live in some kind of make-believe. ICT enabled
approaches
>> >> has
>> >> even allowed some of the ministers in the state to address the
subjects
>> >> through video conferencing. the excuse is usually a packed schedule or
a
>> >> security threat!
>> >>
>> >> Frankly, I would not know about Singapore, but yes! several states in
>> >> India,
>> >> especially Gujarat in the recent times, Assam between 1990 to 2005,
and
>> >> India in general during the emergency years how a select group of
>> >> persons
>> >> subvert the rights of the people for their own political good. There
>> >> exists
>> >> other examples from these states where democracy or a system
resembling
>> >> certain democratic ethos were highlighted to project itself as what
>> >> could
>> >> be
>> >> called democratic. However, it is pretense.
>> >>
>> >> But at the same time, the issue cannot be solved by highlighting only
>> >> certain examples. it is the existing examples where such pretenses
exist
>> >> need to addressed, which can go a long way to solve such issues. One
of
>> >> the
>> >> best approaches could be a participatory approach through both non
state
>> >> and
>> >> state actors.
>> >>
>> >> Anupam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Britta,
>> >> >
>> >> > Majoritarianism is not democracy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this statement you prefer for Gujarat only? Since all the states,
>> >> union
>> >> > government at Delhi all are ruling with majority in democracy! You
are
>> >> from
>> >> > German and there is lots of difference in German and Indian
politics,
>> >> > ethics, discipline of public.
>> >> >
>> >> > Voters can easily come in the trap of political party offered by
them
>> >> as
>> >> a
>> >> > lollipop for short gain which is ultimately harmful to the public.
>> >> Indian
>> >> > public has to learn more on moral, ethics, discipline point of view.
I
>> >> hope
>> >> > with this statement you must be aware of Indian political history
and
>> >> if
>> >> not
>> >> > make study then make yourself eligible for any such comment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Bipin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:
>> >> reader-list-bounces at sarai.net]
>> >> > On Behalf Of ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:55 PM
>> >> > To: Kshmendra Kaul
>> >> > Cc: sarai list
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>> >> >
>> >> > First of all we obviously have a dissent on the question whether
>> >> > generalisations about the Indian public can be made or not, and
given
>> >> that
>> >> > you accuse me of idiotic arrogance in this regard this dissent in
>> >> itself
>> >> > is very strong. So please tell me what exactly you find wrong with
my
>> >> > doing so. Then we have a second dissent which concerns the very
>> >> question
>> >> > of idiotic arrogance on my part, which I clearly dispute.
>> >> > Since you brought in Bipin now: 'well-working' in terms of
>> >> organisation
>> >> is
>> >> > not the same as 'well-working' in terms of democracy. The Third
Reich
>> >> > worked extremely well in terms of annihilating the German and
European
>> >> > Jews. Singapore works extremely well in terms of providing economic
>> >> > security while curtailing freedom of speech. Under these conditions
>> >> it's
>> >> > obviously difficult to make out whether this finds the actual
majority
>> >> of
>> >> > the voters, but even if it does, it's not democratic. Gujarat, which
>> >> > cannot openly curtail democratic rights, works extremely well in
>> >> > concealing the plight of many Muslims by simply denying that they
>> >> exist
>> >> > and by denying that the state systematically clamps down on those
who
>> >> > disrupt the picture presented. By finding a majority of the voters
for
>> >> > this strategy, it is indeed well-functioning but undermining
>> >> democracy.
>> >> > Majoritarianism is not democracy.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Dear Britta
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Dissent???? What dissent?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you are talking about your 'dissent' with Bipin, I have little
>> >> > interest
>> >> > > in that, in the context of Modi/Gujarat since I do not know enough
>> >> about
>> >> > > Gujarat and am highly suspicious of Modi being any good for India
>> >> > > (whatever else might be his claim to what he has done or not-done
>> >> for
>> >> > > Gujarat)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I did not comment on your 'dissent'.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I commented on the 'assent' you granted to your arrogance by
making
>> >> a
>> >> > > generalisation  about "Indian Public" in stating that:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >  "silencing any rational counter-argument" ...... "has been the
>> >> problem
>> >> > of
>> >> > > this list, and of the Indian public, for quite a while now."
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You obviously see nothing wrong with making such a generalisation.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Please have the last word.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Kshmendra
>> >> > >
>> >> > > PS. Your comment to Bipin "Singapore is also a well-working state.
>> >> But
>> >> > > it's not a democracy." seems to suggest that you agree with the
>> >> article
>> >> > > you commented upon and that Gujarat is a "'well-working state"
(like
>> >> > > Singapore) but that (like Singapore) there is no democracy in
>> >> > > Gujarat.        Interesting
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Britta Ohm <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > From: Britta Ohm <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>> >> > > To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
>> >> > > Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 5:09 PM
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Kshmendra,
>> >> > > that is indeed a very satisfying answer to a reasonable question.
>> >> > Bouncing
>> >> > > off dissent is the privilege of those who refuse communicating.
>> >> > > I have the answer, thanks.
>> >> > > B
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Am 03.06.2010 um 13:10 schrieb Kshmendra Kaul:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Britta
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you need to wonder about your "idiotic arrogance" then not much
>> >> can
>> >> be
>> >> > > said to you.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Keep wondering. You might at some stage find the answer.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > K
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
<ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>> >> > > To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
>> >> > > Cc: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de, "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> >> > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:17 PM
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I wonder why it should represent an audacity to make a
>> >> generalisation
>> >> or
>> >> > > to point to a problem. My name is Britta, by the way.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> OHM
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Whatever be your feelings about the absence or presence of
>> >> rationality
>> >> > >> or
>> >> > >> irrationality in an individual or members of this List, it says
>> >> much
>> >> > >> about
>> >> > >> you when you make generalisations about the 'Indian Public'.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Idiotic arrogance
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Kshmendra
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --- On Wed, 6/2/10, ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
<ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>> >
>> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>> >> > >> To: "Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi" <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com>
>> >> > >> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> >> > >> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 8:57 PM
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Rajen, you're talking - even within the (lacking) logic of your
own
>> >> > >> argument - such nonsense that it hurts. If it is deliberate, it
is
>> >> a
>> >> > >> smart
>> >> > >> move, if not, it is very sad, in any case it has the effect of
>> >> silencing
>> >> > >> any rational counter-argument, and this has been the problem of
>> >> this
>> >> > >> list,
>> >> > >> and of the Indian public, for quite a while now.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> What courage is needed to mention about the refugee camps of
>> >> tibetans
>> >> > >>> in
>> >> > >>> Bylakuppe and bailahongal in Karnataka, where the hard work, no
>> >> > >>> nonsense
>> >> > >>> approach to life and skills saw the tibetans rise again from
>> >> strength
>> >> > >>> to
>> >> > >>> strength, what courage is needed to mention about the jewish
camps
>> >> > >>> where
>> >> > >>> millions were gassed and subsequent rush to other nations where
>> >> they
>> >> > >>> were
>> >> > >>> refugees but integreted with the society to rise as powerful
>> >> > >>> bankers.?What
>> >> > >>> courage is needed to talk about the brilliance of the next
>> >> generation
>> >> > >>> of
>> >> > >>> pandits who studied hard, played harder to acquire skills and
>> >> achieve
>> >> > >>> higher
>> >> > >>> lifestyles.?
>> >> > >>> courage is needed to talk about the camps of useless individuals
>> >> who
>> >> > >>> expect
>> >> > >>> all gifts from the system for voting the leaders to power.!
>> >> > >>> regards,
>> >> > >>> rajen
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, anupam chakravartty
>> >> > >>> <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>> Bipin Trivedi
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> you do not have the courage to reply back when list members
>> >> wanted
>> >> to
>> >> > >>>> show
>> >> > >>>> you the conditions of the relief camps of 2002 survivors in
>> >> Gujarat.
>> >> > >>>> what
>> >> > >>>> are you quoting this report for?
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> anupam
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM, <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> > Singapore is also a well-working state. But it's not a
>> >> democracy.
>> >> > >>>> >
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The Sachar Committee report indirectly challenges other
>> >> states
>> >> to
>> >> > >>>> emulate
>> >> > >>>> > > Gujarat chief minister's policy of secular development and
>> >> > >>>> > ânationalise'
>> >> > >>>> > > it
>> >> > >>>> > > By Pravin Sheth
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> >
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/article/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/
>>
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lopment.html>
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > In setting up the Sachar Committee, the UPA government had
>> >> its
>> >> own
>> >> > >>>> > > objectives. Contrary to the expectations of Chief Minister
>> >> > >>>> Narendra
>> >> > >>>> > Modi's
>> >> > >>>> > > critics, the committee's comparative statewise statistics
of
>> >> > >>>> parameters
>> >> > >>>> > > like education, employment and income of the Muslim
>> >> population
>> >> > >>>> living
>> >> > >>>> in
>> >> > >>>> > > the country proves Gujarat is far ahead of other states,
even
>> >> > >>>> those
>> >> > >>>> ruled
>> >> > >>>> > > by so-called secular parties.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > In terms of literacy, Muslims in Gujarat stood at 73.5% as
>> >> > >>>> compared
>> >> > >>>> to
>> >> > >>>> > the
>> >> > >>>> > > national average of 59.1. The figure for urban males is 76,
>> >> and
>> >> 81
>> >> > >>>> for
>> >> > >>>> > > those in rural areas as compared to the national average of
>> >> 70
>> >> and
>> >> > >>>> 62
>> >> > >>>> > > respectively in similar categories.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The average literacy rate of Muslim women in urban Gujarat
is
>> >> five
>> >> > >>>> points
>> >> > >>>> > > higher than the national average, whereas those in rural
>> >> Gujarat
>> >> > >>>> fare
>> >> > >>>> > even
>> >> > >>>> > > better with a literacy rate of 57 per cent as compared to
the
>> >> > >>>> national
>> >> > >>>> > > average of 43.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > A greater percentage of Muslims here have attained primary,
>> >> > >>>> secondary
>> >> > >>>> and
>> >> > >>>> > > higher-secondary level education. The national average is
>> >> 60.9%.
>> >> > >>>> Muslim
>> >> > >>>> > > children in Gujarat are benefiting from equal opportunities
>> >> to
>> >> > >>>> access
>> >> > >>>> > > secondary schooling as other children.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > Take other aspect of economic well-being of Muslims in
>> >> Gujarat.
>> >> > >>>> Here
>> >> > >>>> > also,
>> >> > >>>> > > the Sachar Committee dispels the myth.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The report counters the propaganda that injustice is being
>> >> done
>> >> to
>> >> > >>>> the
>> >> > >>>> > > Muslim community in Gujarat
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The per month per capita income of Muslims in urban Gujarat
>> >> is
>> >> an
>> >> > >>>> average
>> >> > >>>> > > Rs 875 â more than the national average of Rs 804. In
>> >> contrast,
>> >> it
>> >> > >>>> is
>> >> > >>>> > Rs
>> >> > >>>> > > 662 in UP, Rs 748 in West Bengal, Rs 811 in Punjab, Rs 803
in
>> >> > >>>> Andhra
>> >> > >>>> > > Pradesh and Rs 837 in Karnataka.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > In rural Gujarat, the per capita monthly income of Muslims
is
>> >> > >>>> 20-25%
>> >> > >>>> more
>> >> > >>>> > > than the Muslims living in rural areas of most other
states.
>> >> On
>> >> an
>> >> > >>>> > > average, it comes to Rs 668 compared to the national
average
>> >> of
>> >> Rs
>> >> > >>>> 553.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > In terms of Muslims living below poverty line, Gujarat
>> >> improved
>> >> > >>>> from
>> >> > >>>> 54%
>> >> > >>>> > > in 1987-88 to 34% in 2004-2005, showing a healthy pace of
>> >> > >>>> improvement.
>> >> > >>>> > > Even in terms of share of Muslims in state employment, it
is
>> >> 5.4%
>> >> > >>>> in
>> >> > >>>> > > Gujarat while it is 2.1% in West Bengal, 3.2% in Delhi and
>> >> 4.4%
>> >> in
>> >> > >>>> > > Maharashtra.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > Overall, the total picture counters the propaganda that
>> >> injustice
>> >> > >>>> is
>> >> > >>>> > being
>> >> > >>>> > > done to Muslims in Gujarat. The Sachar Committee on
>> >> educational
>> >> > >>>> condition
>> >> > >>>> > > clearly shows that the Muslims of Gujarat are progressing
>> >> well
>> >> in
>> >> > >>>> the
>> >> > >>>> > > field of education and economic well-being. They are well
>> >> cared
>> >> > >>>> for.
>> >> > >>>> The
>> >> > >>>> > > facts on their economic conditions dispel similar myths
about
>> >> > >>>> their
>> >> > >>>> being
>> >> > >>>> > > discriminated against or being denied equal opportunity.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The fact is echoed by the Imam of Jama Masjid in Ahmedabad,
>> >> who
>> >> > >>>> > reportedly
>> >> > >>>> > > commented sometime back "Muslims have an opportunity to
>> >> prosper
>> >> in
>> >> > >>>> the
>> >> > >>>> > > peaceful environment that the Modi government has created.
>> >> Modi
>> >> > >>>> has
>> >> > >>>> > > provided an atmosphere which is conducive for those who
want
>> >> to
>> >> > >>>> trade
>> >> > >>>> > > peacefully in Gujarat".
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > The Sachar report indirectly challenges other states to
>> >> emulate
>> >> > >>>> Modi's
>> >> > >>>> > > policy of secular development and ânationalise' it.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > Ironically, vociferous secularists are silent regarding the
>> >> > >>>> findings.
>> >> > >>>> > They
>> >> > >>>> > > continue to focus on Modi-1 as branded during the 2002
>> >> carnage
>> >> and
>> >> > >>>> > > Sohrabuddin encounter â a chief minister habitually noted
to
>> >> > >>>> dishonour
>> >> > >>>> > > the rule of law, a friend of corporate magnets to the
>> >> detriment
>> >> of
>> >> > >>>> > > villagers and SEZ-affected disadvantaged.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > However, there is popularly a more accepted Modi-2 â a
>> >> dynamic
>> >> CM
>> >> > >>>> > > realising the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor, the Special
>> >> > >>>> Investment
>> >> > >>>> > > Regions, port-based development, âHopenhagen', BRTS, GDP,
and
>> >> much
>> >> > >>>> > more.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > But the two Modis fail to merge as some anti-Modi
ideologues
>> >> > >>>> refuse
>> >> > >>>> to
>> >> > >>>> > > discern the significant transformation in his leadership.
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > Can Modi, hubris-free, demonstrate his transformation to
>> >> abridge
>> >> > >>>> this
>> >> > >>>> > > perception-reality gap?
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > Source Link:
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> >
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
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>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > >
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>> >> > > Dr. Britta Ohm
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>> >> > > Institute of Social Anthropology
>> >> > > University of Bern
>> >> > > Laenggassstr. 49a
>> >> > > 3012 Bern
>> >> > > Switzerland
>> >> > > +41-(0)31-631 8995 (main office)
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