[Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development

[Britta Ohm]

Yes, I have, and you seem to think that's a joke. Why is it a joke?  
Because Modi set up an Anganwadi project? Does that mean there was no  
attack?


Am 09.06.2010 um 08:55 schrieb Bipin Trivedi:

> Have you not said calculated attack in terms of Gujarat?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Britta Ohm [mailto:ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:13 PM
> To: Bipin Trivedi
> Cc: 'Pawan Durani'; sarai-list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>
> It IS your problem if others do not underrstand you, because it means
> that you have not explained it well enough. So, why is it wrong to
> speak of a calculated attack?
>
> Am 09.06.2010 um 08:36 schrieb Bipin Trivedi:
>
>> Dear Pawan,
>>
>> This micronutrient diet project for Anganwadi is very good move and
>> will
>> have positive impact to inclusive growth. But, someone blocked their
>> mind
>> and stick to one point agenda only and will never appreciate good
>> things
>> done by Gujarat government, Narendra Modi. Even victims has move
>> ahead but
>> wasted interest wants to remain in the past only.
>>
>> Britta made comment "calculated attack" in terms of Gujarat and my
>> comment
>> to know the truth for Gujarat and nothing to do with Bhopal truth.
>> Someone
>> does not understand is not my problem. Someone believes that they
>> are only
>> knowledgeable for everything and others are totally illiterate!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bipin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pawan Durani [mailto:pawan.durani at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:42 AM
>> To: anupam chakravartty
>> Cc: Bipin Trivedi; Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi; sarai list
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>
>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-brief/631356/
>>
>> Anganwadis to provide micronutrient diet to adolescent girls in
>> Gujarat
>>
>> Cheif Minister Narendra Modi said on Tuesday that the state  
>> government
>> will provide a complete micronutrient diet to adolescent girls in
>> Gujarat. Introducing micronutrient premix for 44,000 Anganwadis in
>> Gandhinagar, Modi said the move aims to improve the health of
>> malnourished children. He said the diet will comprise a premix of  
>> four
>> protein-rich traditional food items — sukhdi, balbhog, upma and siro.
>> “Seventy-odd food items can be made from the premix, which will be
>> distributed at the anganwadis.” he added.The premix will be a blend  
>> of
>> soyabean, cereals and pulses containing 18 to 20 per cent protein and
>> 600 gram kilocalories. State Women and Child Welfare Minister Anandi
>> Patel, who was also present at the function, said Gujarat is the only
>> state to take this initiative. She added that new facilities like
>> lavatories and playgrounds were also being provided for students at
>> 47,000 anganwadis across Gujarat. “The government has provided a Rs
>> 100-crore special grant to improve the anganwadi infrastructure.”
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
>>>
>> wrote:
>>> Rajendra,
>>>
>>> Few days back while replying on this thread you wrote:
>>>
>>> all are humans, some took the sufferings with great courage, some
>>> wait
>> still
>>> for "government" to solve the issues,and the individuals who make
>>> noices
>>> about the refugees have the business to do so, but not the courage
>>> to see
>>> the best efforts put in by the same humans to get out of the
>>> sufferings.Is
>>> humans following some faith are
>>> special..............................i
>>> wonder.
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Do you think I should even answer your question? And you have been
>>> talking
>>> about what....selective amnesia.
>>>
>>> Anupam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Calculated attack? What a joke.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know any details why this happened? Why was happened?
>>>> Unless and
>>>> until you don’t know the real truth think twice before making any
>> comment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de [mailto:ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:07 PM
>>>> To: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi
>>>> Cc: anupam chakravartty; Bipin Trivedi; sarai list; Britta Ohm;
>> TaraPrakash
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>>>
>>>> Why would you liken a terrible and very irresponsible industrial
>>>> accident
>>>> to a calculated attack?
>>>>
>>>>> Anupam, may be you have other thoughts that muslims are also  
>>>>> humans
>> like
>>>>> all
>>>>> others who suffer in tragic events, but then, why you are quiet
>>>>> when
>> the
>>>>> tragedy hit the maximum number of muslims in Bhopal gas
>>>>> tragedy. ? Just
>>>>> wondering, is it because it was then ruled by different
>>>>> party...................?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:22 AM, anupam chakravartty
>>>>> <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought the discussion was about the condition of Muslims in
>>>>>> Gujarat
>>>>>> vis-a-vis Sachar committee report, and also about the relief
>>>>>> camps.
>> The
>>>>>> detractors have succeeded in hijacking the core issue yet again
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>> what is irrelevant and unneccesary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In most "successful" states as it is usually projected to its
>>>>>> people,
>>>>>> democracy is only a mask especially if the state is proactively
>>>>>> projecting
>>>>>> itself as a democratic nation. Whether an institution, in this
>>>>>> case a
>>>>>> state,
>>>>>> is democratic, could only be ascertained over a period of time.
>>>>>> If i
>> am
>>>>>> correctly putting it, the idea of a democracy is not a priori
>>>>>> but it
>> is
>>>>>> dependent on the experience of the subject. If it is on paper,
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> good enough to say that the state is democratic. It has been
>>>>>> observed
>>>>>> that,
>>>>>> apart from addressing large rallies ( a sign of majoritarianism),
>>>>>> inspecting
>>>>>> business models of large corporate houses and playing the 'cheif
>> guest'
>>>>>> (in
>>>>>> certain cases for marriages as well), if the head of the state is
>> saying
>>>>>> she/he is ruling over a democratic institution, they are either
>>>>>> lying
>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> people or they live in some kind of make-believe. ICT enabled
>> approaches
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> even allowed some of the ministers in the state to address the
>> subjects
>>>>>> through video conferencing. the excuse is usually a packed
>>>>>> schedule or
>> a
>>>>>> security threat!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frankly, I would not know about Singapore, but yes! several
>>>>>> states in
>>>>>> India,
>>>>>> especially Gujarat in the recent times, Assam between 1990 to
>>>>>> 2005,
>> and
>>>>>> India in general during the emergency years how a select group of
>>>>>> persons
>>>>>> subvert the rights of the people for their own political good.
>>>>>> There
>>>>>> exists
>>>>>> other examples from these states where democracy or a system
>> resembling
>>>>>> certain democratic ethos were highlighted to project itself as
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> called democratic. However, it is pretense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But at the same time, the issue cannot be solved by highlighting
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> certain examples. it is the existing examples where such  
>>>>>> pretenses
>> exist
>>>>>> need to addressed, which can go a long way to solve such issues.
>>>>>> One
>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> best approaches could be a participatory approach through both  
>>>>>> non
>> state
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> state actors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anupam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Bipin Trivedi  
>>>>>> <aliens at dataone.in>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Britta,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Majoritarianism is not democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this statement you prefer for Gujarat only? Since all the
>>>>>>> states,
>>>>>> union
>>>>>>> government at Delhi all are ruling with majority in democracy!
>>>>>>> You
>> are
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> German and there is lots of difference in German and Indian
>> politics,
>>>>>>> ethics, discipline of public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Voters can easily come in the trap of political party offered by
>> them
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> lollipop for short gain which is ultimately harmful to the
>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>> Indian
>>>>>>> public has to learn more on moral, ethics, discipline point of
>>>>>>> view.
>> I
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>> with this statement you must be aware of Indian political  
>>>>>>> history
>> and
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> make study then make yourself eligible for any such comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Bipin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:
>>>>>> reader-list-bounces at sarai.net]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:55 PM
>>>>>>> To: Kshmendra Kaul
>>>>>>> Cc: sarai list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all we obviously have a dissent on the question whether
>>>>>>> generalisations about the Indian public can be made or not, and
>> given
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you accuse me of idiotic arrogance in this regard this dissent  
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> is very strong. So please tell me what exactly you find wrong
>>>>>>> with
>> my
>>>>>>> doing so. Then we have a second dissent which concerns the very
>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> of idiotic arrogance on my part, which I clearly dispute.
>>>>>>> Since you brought in Bipin now: 'well-working' in terms of
>>>>>> organisation
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not the same as 'well-working' in terms of democracy. The Third
>> Reich
>>>>>>> worked extremely well in terms of annihilating the German and
>> European
>>>>>>> Jews. Singapore works extremely well in terms of providing
>>>>>>> economic
>>>>>>> security while curtailing freedom of speech. Under these
>>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> obviously difficult to make out whether this finds the actual
>> majority
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the voters, but even if it does, it's not democratic. Gujarat,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> cannot openly curtail democratic rights, works extremely well in
>>>>>>> concealing the plight of many Muslims by simply denying that  
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>> exist
>>>>>>> and by denying that the state systematically clamps down on  
>>>>>>> those
>> who
>>>>>>> disrupt the picture presented. By finding a majority of the
>>>>>>> voters
>> for
>>>>>>> this strategy, it is indeed well-functioning but undermining
>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>> Majoritarianism is not democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Britta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dissent???? What dissent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are talking about your 'dissent' with Bipin, I have
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>> in that, in the context of Modi/Gujarat since I do not know
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> Gujarat and am highly suspicious of Modi being any good for
>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>> (whatever else might be his claim to what he has done or not-
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Gujarat)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did not comment on your 'dissent'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I commented on the 'assent' you granted to your arrogance by
>> making
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> generalisation  about "Indian Public" in stating that:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "silencing any rational counter-argument" ...... "has been the
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> this list, and of the Indian public, for quite a while now."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You obviously see nothing wrong with making such a
>>>>>>>> generalisation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please have the last word.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kshmendra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS. Your comment to Bipin "Singapore is also a well-working
>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> it's not a democracy." seems to suggest that you agree with the
>>>>>> article
>>>>>>>> you commented upon and that Gujarat is a "'well-working state"
>> (like
>>>>>>>> Singapore) but that (like Singapore) there is no democracy in
>>>>>>>> Gujarat.        Interesting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Britta Ohm <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Britta Ohm <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>>>>>>> To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 5:09 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kshmendra,
>>>>>>>> that is indeed a very satisfying answer to a reasonable
>>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>> Bouncing
>>>>>>>> off dissent is the privilege of those who refuse communicating.
>>>>>>>> I have the answer, thanks.
>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 03.06.2010 um 13:10 schrieb Kshmendra Kaul:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Britta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you need to wonder about your "idiotic arrogance" then not
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> said to you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep wondering. You might at some stage find the answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> K
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 6/2/10, ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>> <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>>>>>>> To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de, "sarai list" <reader- 
>>>>>>>> list at sarai.net>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:17 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder why it should represent an audacity to make a
>>>>>> generalisation
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> to point to a problem. My name is Britta, by the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OHM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whatever be your feelings about the absence or presence of
>>>>>> rationality
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> irrationality in an individual or members of this List, it  
>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> you when you make generalisations about the 'Indian Public'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Idiotic arrogance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kshmendra
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 6/2/10, ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>> <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development
>>>>>>>>> To: "Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi"  
>>>>>>>>> <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 8:57 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rajen, you're talking - even within the (lacking) logic of  
>>>>>>>>> your
>> own
>>>>>>>>> argument - such nonsense that it hurts. If it is deliberate,  
>>>>>>>>> it
>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> smart
>>>>>>>>> move, if not, it is very sad, in any case it has the effect of
>>>>>> silencing
>>>>>>>>> any rational counter-argument, and this has been the problem  
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>> and of the Indian public, for quite a while now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What courage is needed to mention about the refugee camps of
>>>>>> tibetans
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Bylakuppe and bailahongal in Karnataka, where the hard work,
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> nonsense
>>>>>>>>>> approach to life and skills saw the tibetans rise again from
>>>>>> strength
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> strength, what courage is needed to mention about the jewish
>> camps
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> millions were gassed and subsequent rush to other nations
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> refugees but integreted with the society to rise as powerful
>>>>>>>>>> bankers.?What
>>>>>>>>>> courage is needed to talk about the brilliance of the next
>>>>>> generation
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> pandits who studied hard, played harder to acquire skills and
>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>>>>> lifestyles.?
>>>>>>>>>> courage is needed to talk about the camps of useless
>>>>>>>>>> individuals
>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> expect
>>>>>>>>>> all gifts from the system for voting the leaders to power.!
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> rajen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, anupam chakravartty
>>>>>>>>>> <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bipin Trivedi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you do not have the courage to reply back when list members
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>> you the conditions of the relief camps of 2002 survivors in
>>>>>> Gujarat.
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> are you quoting this report for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> anupam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM, <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Singapore is also a well-working state. But it's not a
>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sachar Committee report indirectly challenges other
>>>>>> states
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gujarat chief minister's policy of secular development and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ânationalise'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Pravin Sheth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
> http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/article/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/
>>>>
>>
> Gujarat%E2%80%99s-secular-development.html<http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/ar
>> ticle/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/%0AGujarat%E2%80%99s-
>> secular-deve
>> lopment.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In setting up the Sachar Committee, the UPA government had
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectives. Contrary to the expectations of Chief Minister
>>>>>>>>>>> Narendra
>>>>>>>>>>>> Modi's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> critics, the committee's comparative statewise statistics
>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> parameters
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like education, employment and income of the Muslim
>>>>>> population
>>>>>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the country proves Gujarat is far ahead of other states,
>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> ruled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by so-called secular parties.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of literacy, Muslims in Gujarat stood at 73.5% as
>>>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> national average of 59.1. The figure for urban males is  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 76,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 81
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those in rural areas as compared to the national average  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 70
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> 62
>>>>>>>>>>>>> respectively in similar categories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The average literacy rate of Muslim women in urban Gujarat
>> is
>>>>>> five
>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher than the national average, whereas those in rural
>>>>>> Gujarat
>>>>>>>>>>> fare
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better with a literacy rate of 57 per cent as compared to
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>>>>>>>> average of 43.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A greater percentage of Muslims here have attained  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> primary,
>>>>>>>>>>> secondary
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher-secondary level education. The national average is
>>>>>> 60.9%.
>>>>>>>>>>> Muslim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> children in Gujarat are benefiting from equal  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>> secondary schooling as other children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take other aspect of economic well-being of Muslims in
>>>>>> Gujarat.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here
>>>>>>>>>>>> also,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Sachar Committee dispels the myth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The report counters the propaganda that injustice is being
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muslim community in Gujarat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The per month per capita income of Muslims in urban  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gujarat
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rs 875 â more than the national average of Rs 804. In
>>>>>> contrast,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 662 in UP, Rs 748 in West Bengal, Rs 811 in Punjab, Rs 803
>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Andhra
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pradesh and Rs 837 in Karnataka.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In rural Gujarat, the per capita monthly income of Muslims
>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> 20-25%
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the Muslims living in rural areas of most other
>> states.
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> average, it comes to Rs 668 compared to the national
>> average
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Rs
>>>>>>>>>>> 553.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of Muslims living below poverty line, Gujarat
>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> 54%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1987-88 to 34% in 2004-2005, showing a healthy pace of
>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even in terms of share of Muslims in state employment, it
>> is
>>>>>> 5.4%
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gujarat while it is 2.1% in West Bengal, 3.2% in Delhi and
>>>>>> 4.4%
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maharashtra.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, the total picture counters the propaganda that
>>>>>> injustice
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done to Muslims in Gujarat. The Sachar Committee on
>>>>>> educational
>>>>>>>>>>> condition
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly shows that the Muslims of Gujarat are progressing
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> field of education and economic well-being. They are well
>>>>>> cared
>>>>>>>>>>> for.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on their economic conditions dispel similar myths
>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discriminated against or being denied equal opportunity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact is echoed by the Imam of Jama Masjid in  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmedabad,
>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> commented sometime back "Muslims have an opportunity to
>>>>>> prosper
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful environment that the Modi government has created.
>>>>>> Modi
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided an atmosphere which is conducive for those who
>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> trade
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peacefully in Gujarat".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sachar report indirectly challenges other states to
>>>>>> emulate
>>>>>>>>>>> Modi's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy of secular development and ânationalise' it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, vociferous secularists are silent regarding  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> findings.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to focus on Modi-1 as branded during the 2002
>>>>>> carnage
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sohrabuddin encounter â a chief minister habitually noted
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> dishonour
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rule of law, a friend of corporate magnets to the
>>>>>> detriment
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> villagers and SEZ-affected disadvantaged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, there is popularly a more accepted Modi-2 â a
>>>>>> dynamic
>>>>>> CM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realising the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor, the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special
>>>>>>>>>>> Investment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regions, port-based development, âHopenhagen', BRTS, GDP,
>> and
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the two Modis fail to merge as some anti-Modi
>> ideologues
>>>>>>>>>>> refuse
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discern the significant transformation in his leadership.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can Modi, hubris-free, demonstrate his transformation to
>>>>>> abridge
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perception-reality gap?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source Link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
> http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/article/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/
>>>>
>>
> Gujarat%E2%80%99s-secular-development.html<http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/ar
>> ticle/59/20100527201005270359478766a84c375/%0AGujarat%E2%80%99s-
>> secular-deve
>> lopment.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Rajen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Dr. Britta Ohm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Institute of Social Anthropology
>>>>>>>> University of Bern
>>>>>>>> Laenggassstr. 49a
>>>>>>>> 3012 Bern
>>>>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>>>>> +41-(0)31-631 8995 (main office)
>>>>>>>> +41-(0)31-631 8997 (direct line)
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> ---------------------------------------
> Dr. Britta Ohm
>
> Institute of Social Anthropology
> University of Bern
> Laenggassstr. 49a
> 3012 Bern
> Switzerland
> +41-(0)31-631 8995 (main office)
> +41-(0)31-631 8997 (direct line)
> britta.ohm at anthro.unibe.ch
>
>
> Solmsstr. 36
> 10961 Berlin
> Germany
> +49-(0)30-69507155
> ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Dr. Britta Ohm

Institute of Social Anthropology
University of Bern
Laenggassstr. 49a
3012 Bern
Switzerland
+41-(0)31-631 8995 (main office)
+41-(0)31-631 8997 (direct line)
britta.ohm at anthro.unibe.ch


Solmsstr. 36
10961 Berlin
Germany
+49-(0)30-69507155
ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de