[Reader-list] 10 MYTHS OF GLOBAL WARMING

[TaraPrakash]

Well, this is a new strategy our colonial masters are teaching us. Pollute
in the name of national pride. They "developed" by polluting, we too have a
right to pollute. This is the rallying cry of the right wingers in India
that echos with "drill baby drill" among the masters in the US.

Because there is smoke already in the environment so passive smoking cannot
really harm, we have heard this kind of argument from mendacious
industrialists in the past. Sun rays cause a lot of radiation, many
generations in Hiroshima and NagaSaki suffer the consequences of radiation
but that has nothing to do with the nuclear bomb Americans dropped on those
2 cities.

We know talk show hosts in the US who make such silly arguments. They create
their own websites or pay their hang dogs to do that and then use the same
websites as a proof for their conspiracy theories and their propaganda. They
help industrialists by spreading lies and industrialists help them with what
they best know. It has nothing to do with development, it has all to do with
stopping the development of alternative sources of energy. It's all to keep
the oil industry stinkingly rich, no doubt most of these right wingers have
their investments in the oil.

These so called prodevelopment powers with financial support from
industrialists become so powerful that they can coopt religion too. Since
they become custodian of religion they can ignore it when it comes in the
path of "development". George Bush in a way declared himself a pope when he
called for a holy war soon after 9-11. He easily ignored the christian world
and the advice of the Pope when he invaded Iraq. Narendra Modi suffered
almost no     backlash from the Hindu groups when he demolished temples in
the name of development. You now know why.

We all know kind of ruffian, a joker and criminal George Bush junior was. A
state with a popular vote decided to name a new sewerage system after him.
You shouldn't be surprized to know that voters in Vermont, a US state, voted 
on this issue and gave the law enforcement directive to arrest both Bush and 
the vice president at that time. So let us not consider anything that Bush 
said credible.

Vladimir Putin recently went down in the water in a submarine to see an 
under-water paper mill that was closed due to pollution it was causing. From 
the submarine he made the pronouncement "I can see the water is so clean. 
There is no pollution so we will let this paper mill start functioning 
again." This was the same kind of faulty reasoning, there is no global 
warming because I can't feel it in my airconditioned room. If someone could 
dare prove to him that there was pollution, he would probably argue that 
nature was capable of cleaning itself. Oil and gas lets Russia arm twist its 
neighbors. So, of course, Kyoto protocol was faulty.

Best

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bipin Trivedi" <aliens at dataone.in>
To: "'TaraPrakash'" <taraprakash at gmail.com>; "'Nagraj Adve'"
<nagraj.adve at gmail.com>
Cc: "sarai-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: [Reader-list] 10 MYTHS OF GLOBAL WARMING


Dear Tara and Nagraj,

Yes Tara, you are right. Houses are measured in sq. ft., we prefer
house/building to buy normally square/rectangle shape and not round. So,
accordingly logically earth should be flat, but it is round. So, what we see
physically or practically in life is not at all true for earth, solar family
and universally.

SINCE, WE ARE NOTHING AGAINST EARTH/NATURE/UNIVERSE. PLEASE READ FOLLOWING
FACT TO CONCLUDE MY POINT.

Nature produces far more greenhouse gases than we do. For example, when the
Mount Pinatubo volcano erupted, within just a few hours it had thrown into
the atmosphere 30 million tons of sulphur dioxide— almost twice as much as
all the factories, power plants and cars in the United States do in a whole
year. Such volcano eruption is ongoing process and millions of tons of green
gases comes out and against this, gases produced by human are negligible and
obviously impact also negligible. Oceans emit 90 billion tons of carbon
dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, every year. Decaying plants throw up
another 90 billion tons, compared to just SIX BILLION TONS a year from
humans. So, nature produce almost 180 tones CO2 in a year while humans
produce just 6 billion. MERELY 3.35%. What's more, 100 million years ago,
there was six times as much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as there is
now, yet the temperature then was marginally cooler than it is today. Many
scientists have concluded that carbon dioxide doesn't even affect climate.

The most important among these "greenhouse gases" is water vapor, which is
responsible for about 96 to 99 percent of the greenhouse effect. Among the
other greenhouse gases (CO2, CH4, CFCs, N2O, and O3) the most important is
CO2, which contributes only 3 percent to the total greenhouse effect.

SO, THE MAN MADE CO2 CONTRIBUTION TO THIS EFFECT MAY BE ABOUT 0.05 TO 0.25
%. Mainly sun/moon is important and plays major role in earth's atmosphere.
Looking to the huge volume of sun/moon/earth and its atmospheric volumes,
this CO2 effect maximum of about 0.25% merely, which can be counted as
negligible and have practically nil effect in overall global warming if it
is there described by few scientists. AGAIN LET ME TELL YOU, WE ARE NOTHING
AGAINST NATURE AND WE CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING BY ANY MEANS.

NATURE WHEN SO SMART TO PRODUCE ALL THESE RESOURCES LIKE SEA/MINES/JUNGLES
HAS BUILT UP ITS OWM NATURAL REPAIRING SYSTEM KEEPING ALL THESE EVEN MINOR
ILL EFFECTS IN MIND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. PLEASE READ BELLOW.

Consequently, 2.4 billion years ago, living organisms were forced to develop
defense mechanisms against the deadly effects of oxygen radicals. (15) These
same mechanisms protect us against the effects of ionizing radiation.
Without these mechanisms, life could not have developed in the past, and we
could not live with the current flux of spontaneous DNA damages produced by
the oxygen radicals which are formed in metabolism of this gas. In each
mammalian cell, about 70 million spontaneous DNA damages occur during one
year, but only 5 of those DNA damages are the result of the average natural
radiation dose. ( 16,17) Both the oxygen atmosphere and the incredibly
efficient mechanism of DNA protection and repair, developed in this ancient
epoch, were probably induced by dramatic changes of climate.

Please see following link for Ph of sea point of view and its impact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification

After referring to this link, last para is important as under.

Leaving aside direct biological effects, it is expected that ocean
acidification in the future will lead to a significant decrease in the
burial of carbonate sediments for several centuries, and even the
dissolution of existing carbonate sediments.[36] This will cause an
elevation of ocean alkalinity, leading to the enhancement of the ocean as a
reservoir for CO2 with moderate (and potentially beneficial) implications
for climate change as more CO2 leaves the atmosphere for the ocean.[37] Same
as rain cycle works in the earth.

Above 2 points proves my belief that nature has its own repairing system and
this repairing system is working everywhere including all living
things/human beings where they develop immunity according to current
environment.

Although many environmentalists have been forced to accept much of the
scientific evidence against global warming, they still argue that it is
better to be safe than sorry. So they continue to use global warming as a
reason to oppose industrialization and economic growth. Industrialization
and economic growth is today necessity and compulsion since population is
growing. IF YOU ARE REALLY WORRYING THEN FIGHT FOR POPULATION INCREMENT AND
FIGHT FOR DRASTIC STEPS TOWARDS POPULATION CONTROL MEASURES.

USA AND DEVELOPED COUNTRIES REACHED AT WELL DEVELOPED LEVEL AND NOW THEY ARE
TRYING TO RESTRICT THE PROGRESS OF THIRD WORLD OR UNDER DEVELOPED COUNTRY TO
COME UP BY WAY OF INDUSTRIALIZATION. GREENHOUSE OR GLOBAL WARMING MOVEMENT
ARE SYSTEMATICAL APPROACH TO RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT OF UNDER DEVELOPED
COUNTRIES.

PLEASE READ FOLLOWING TRUTH TO CONCLUDE MY ARGUMENT.

Two questions arise in this respect. How could the 1998 Mann et al. paper,
with all those errors, have passed peer review for Nature magazine? And how
could it pass the reviewing process at the IPCC? This affair sadly reflects
upon the quality of science being performed in this body. The Mann et al.
papers had a political edge: They served as a counterweight against
President George W. Bush's negative stand toward the Kyoto Protocol as
"fatally flawed," and his attempt to lessen the economic global catastrophe
that Kyoto would induce. An unexpected contribution in this fight recently
came from President Vladimir Putin, his chief economic advisor Andrei
Illarionov, and from many scientists attending the World Climate Change
Conference that was held in Moscow between September 29 and October 3, 2003.
Opening the conference, Putin stated that the Kyoto Protocol was
"scientifically flawed," and that "Even 100 percent compliance with the
Kyoto Protocol won't reverse climate change."

Thanks
Bipin




-----Original Message-----
From: TaraPrakash [mailto:taraprakash at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
To: Bipin Trivedi; sarai-list
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] 10 MYTHS OF GLOBAL WARMING

Hello. I think we are a little more grown up than use an unsubstentiated
statement with another unsubstentiated statement. The list of "facts" and
"myths" sounds like:

Myth: The earth is round.

Fact: The earth is flat. All the houses are measured in sq ft.

Time to Grow up.