[Reader-list] UK bans radical preacher Zakir Naik from entering UK

Sat Jun 19 18:22:36 IST 2010

Pawan, is not that thought amusing when Francis Gautier wrote an article in
Indian Express of 17th June 2010, (those interested may upload the link from
electronic version of the newspaper.) with heading " All hindus should
unite................, interestingly he writes about the well organised
attack on hindu "gurus" and efforts to denigrade them, as no hindus attempt
to defend any of their gurus as different castes and groups of hindus have
different gurus/ preachers. ! Though this factor is true for muslims and
christians also, the floowers of these faith immediately raise the issue of
"minority" being targetted if any of the facts about sodomy, rape and murder
by the priests of these religions come to light.
Divided society indeed, where is that society which struggled together to
free mother India against the slavery. ?
regards,
rajen..

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:

> Javed ,
>
> I am not subscribed to Peace TV....have never watched it , nor do I
> know much about Zakir Naik personally.
>
> Is it really Peace TV ....I do NOT know
>
> Pawan
>
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Great. So I hope you will also post messages that show "that
> > particular" thought about other religions too (and not only Islam),
> > since every wrong deed needs to be criticized and questioned. You
> > didn't comment about the fact that Zakir Naik's TV channel is Peace TV
> > and he advocates peace.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Dear Javed,
> >>
> >> I appreciate your mail and your thoughts , however I would like to
> >> clarify that I have nothing against any religion .
> >>
> >> I am just anti the particular thought , which also made an entire race
> >> of 7 lac homeless , who live as refugees since last 20 years.
> >>
> >> It is just that particular thought process that I hate , which is
> >> spreading like epidemic.
> >>
> >> I hope I have made myself clear. We would need more people like you to
> >> contain that particular thinking.
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> Pawan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Pawan, although I think Zakir Naik should be banned from entering or
> >>> exiting from any where, but I don't think he ever said "every Muslim
> >>> should be a terrorist". His channel is called Peace TV and he does
> >>> talk most of the times about Islam being a peaceful religion (although
> >>> I may not agree to most of what he preaches). But I think this
> >>> Telegraph report is highly biased and wrong in quoting him this way.
> >>>
> >>> I think your food doesn't get digested until you have posted thirteen
> >>> anti-Islam messages everyday. Eh?
> >>>
> >>> Javed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> "A radical preacher who claimed that “every Muslim should be a
> >>>> terrorist” has been banned from coming to Britain,"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7836557/Home-secretary-Theresa-May-bans-radical-preacher-Zakir-Naik-from-entering-UK.html
> >>>>
> >>>> n her first major test of being tough on extremism, Theresa May, the
> >>>> new Home Secretary, said she was banning Zakir Naik from entering the
> >>>> UK.
> >>>> Dr Naik, a 44-year-old Indian televangelist, had been due to give a
> >>>> series of lectures at arenas in Wembley Arena and Sheffield.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Home Secretary can exclude or deport an individual if she thinks
> >>>> that their presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good.
> >>>> There had been speculation that Dr Naik would be allowed into the UK.
> >>>> However Mrs May said she was excluding him because of the “numerous
> >>>> comments” he made were evidence of his “unacceptable behaviour”.
> >>>> This behaviour applies to anyone who writes or publishes material
> >>>> which can “foment justify or glorify terrorist violence” or “seek to
> >>>> provoke others to terrorist acts”.
> >>>> Mrs May told The Daily Telegraph: “I have excluded Dr Naik from the
> >>>> UK. Numerous comments made by Dr Naik are evidence to me of his
> >>>> unacceptable behaviour.
> >>>> “Coming to the UK is a privilege not a right and I am not wiling to
> >>>> allow those who might not be conducive to the public good to enter the
> >>>> UK.
> >>>> “Exclusion powers are very serious and no decision is taken lightly or
> >>>> as a method of stopping open debate on issues.”
> >>>> Home Office sources said Dr Naik had been filmed on a website making
> >>>> inflammatory comments such as “every Muslim should be a terrorist”.
> >>>> He said: “When a robber sees a policeman he’s terrified. So for a
> >>>> robber, a policeman is a terrorist. So in this context, every Muslim
> >>>> should be a terrorist to the robber.”
> >>>> He has also been filmed saying: “There are many Jews who are good to
> >>>> Muslims, but as a whole … The Koran tells us, as a whole, they will be
> >>>> our staunchest enemy.”
> >>>> In a web posting from 2006 he said: “Beware of Muslims saying Osama
> >>>> Bin Laden is right or wrong. I reject them … we don’t know.
> >>>> “But if you ask my view, if given the truth, if he is fighting the
> >>>> enemies of Islam, I am for him. I don’t know what he’s doing. I’m not
> >>>> in touch with him. I don’t know him personally. I read the newspaper.
> >>>> “If he is terrorising the terrorists, if he is terrorising America the
> >>>> terrorist, the biggest terrorist, every Muslim should be a terrorist.”
> >>>> He is also reported to have said suggested that western women make
> >>>> themselves “more susceptible to rape” by wearing revealing clothing.
> >>>> He reportedly said: “Western society has actually degraded [women] to
> >>>> the status of concubines, mistresses and social butterflies, who are
> >>>> mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers”
> >>>> Last night Patrick Mercer MP, the former chairman of the Commons
> >>>> counter-terrorism committee, said: “This is really good news. It shows
> >>>> that firm Government action can be taken against people.
> >>>> "This is exactly the sort of man who we want to exclude from this
> country.”
> >>>> Dr Naik has been named as the third most popular spiritual guru in
> >>>> India and was judged in 2009 to be 82nd in a list of India’s most
> >>>> powerful people.
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Rajen.