[Reader-list] Anti Terrorism Fatwa

Fri Mar 5 22:49:04 IST 2010

btw this cleric is a minor one. he lost elections. ...

yet, while i cant take guarantees of people i dont know, this is the norm
and the majority i know. jihadis have been the exception to this majority in
our society.

so why should this be anything new for me. it is not.

I agree fascinating catchy sound bytes like are those with popping stuff,
falling stuff, burning stuff, hitting stuff, .... astaghfarullah !  :D

y

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:03 PM, A.K. Malik <akmalik45 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  Dear Mr Ambardar,
> Sorry I misspelt your name im my mail just sent.
> Regards,
>
> (A.K.MALIK)
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Lalit Ambardar <lalitambardar at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Lalit Ambardar <lalitambardar at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Anti Terrorism Fatwa
> > To: aliens at dataone.in, javedmasoo at gmail.com
> > Cc: "reader-list at sarai.net" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:21 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > There can be no better deterrent
> > against jihadi terror than invoking the wroth of very God
> > that is purportedly the
> > inspiration for terrorism. Such strong voices should have
> > emanated earlier.
> >
> > Due cognisance of  the suicide car bombing in Srinagar
> > on the eve
> > of the year 2000 X-mas by the Birmingham born Bilal Ahmed
> > could possibly have
> > averted 9/11 & scores of other attacks worldwide.
> >
> > Regards all
> >
> > LA
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:01:08 +0530
> > > From: aliens at dataone.in
> > > To: javedmasoo at gmail.com
> > > CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Anti Terrorism Fatwa
> > >
> > >
> > > It is welcome move to issue such fatwa that suicide
> > bombing was banned by Islam without any excuses, any
> > pretexts, or exceptions. Suicide is always condemnable by
> > almost all the religions and nothing new in it. So, it can
> > be counted as a teaching statement rather than issuing
> > fatwa. Similarly, Islamic group has even earlier issued
> > fatwa against any kind of violence/terrorism in general.
> > But, what today need is fatwa against terrorists or
> > terrorists group specifically to pressurize them to stop
> > terrorism. When you can give fatwa against Taslima Nasreen
> > and Salman Rashdie specifically then why not issue fatwa
> > against any terrorist specifically. This is what required in
> > today's time. Can any of Islamic group dare to do this? It
> > will be welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Bipin
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net
> > [mailto:reader-list-bounces at sarai.net]
> > On Behalf Of Javed
> > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:23 AM
> > > To: sarai list
> > > Subject: [Reader-list] Anti Terrorism Fatwa
> > >
> > > Anti Terrorism Fatwa
> > >
> > > Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri
> > >
> > > Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, a former Pakistani lawmaker
> > issued an anti
> > > terrorism fatwa in London this Tuesday. It stated that
> > suicide bombing
> > > was banned by Islam “without any excuses, any
> > pretexts, or
> > > exceptions.” This is a great stand and one that many
> > other
> > > organizations have taken before. Even recently after
> > the incident at
> > > Fort Hood, The National Coalition of South Asian
> > Organizations
> > > released ‘their fatwa.’ The NCSO consists of over
> > twenty organizations
> > > who had issued this strong statement after the tragedy
> > in Fort Hood.
> > > It is not any different from most of the voices I
> > heard in the Mumbai
> > > taxis. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Parsis and Jews
> > traveling through
> > > bustling Bombay commented on this unfortunate
> > misconception between
> > > Islam and Terror and voiced the same concern as
> > Muhammad
> > > Tahir-ul-Qadri and The Quilliam Foundation.
> > >
> > > When will mainstream media truly pay attention to all
> > the voices of
> > > dissent? Like I said , a great stand but one which has
> > been stated by
> > > the common man for decades. May this fatwa enter the
> > domain of pop
> > > culture and be talked about on twitter, blogs,
> > backyards in Alabama,
> > > streets of Kabul, Mc Donalds kitchens and headlines of
> > every big
> > > publication Worldwide as much as it was talked about
> > in the Mumbai
> > > taxis. Inshallah!
> > >
> > > http://thetaxitakes.com/anti-terrorism-fatwa/
> > > -------
> > >
> > > Some experts see fatwa as significant blow to
> > terrorist recruiting
> > > By Kiran Khalid, CNN
> > > March 3, 2010
> > > Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- A fatwa, or religious
> > ruling, issued this
> > > week is roiling theological waters after it took aim
> > at those
> > > notorious for targeting others: terrorists.
> > >
> > > The anti-terrorism fatwa by renowned Muslim scholar
> > Muhammad Tahir
> > > ul-Qadri pulled no punches, declaring that terrorism
> > was "haraam," or
> > > forbidden by the Quran, and that suicide bombers would
> > be rewarded not
> > > by 72 virgins in heaven, as many terrorist recruiters
> > promise, but
> > > with a suite in hell.
> > >
> > > Qadri, the founder of the Minhaj-ul-Quran
> > International, an Islamic
> > > movement with centers in 90 countries, told a news
> > conference in
> > > London, England, on Tuesday that his decree
> > categorically condemns
> > > terrorism and suicide bombings in the name of Islam.
> > >
> > > "Until now, scholars who were condemning terrorism
> > were conditional
> > > and qualified what they said," Qadri said in a phone
> > interview, noting
> > > that his 600-page ruling left no room for
> > interpretation. "I didn't
> > > leave a single, minor aspect that, in the mind of
> > radicals or
> > > extremists, can take them to the direction of
> > martyrdom."
> > >
> > > The 59-year-old Pakistani scholar called his fatwa an
> > "absolute"
> > > condemnation, going as far as to label the terrorists
> > themselves
> > > "kafirs," a term in the Quran meaning "unbeliever."
> > >
> > > "This fatwa has the potential to be a highly
> > significant step towards
> > > eradicating Islamist terrorism," Quilliam, a
> > counter-extremism think
> > > tank based in London, said in a statement.
> > >
> > > Manan Ahmed, assistant professor of Islam in South and
> > Southeast Asia
> > > at the Institute for Islamic Studies in Berlin,
> > agreed, calling the
> > > fatwa "unprecedented."
> > >
> > > "This is a landmark theological study -- a careful and
> > systematic
> > > treatment of a thousand years of legal tradition
> > dealing with armed
> > > resistance against the state, rules of engagement,
> > aspects. The fatwa
> > > itself ... is categorically and comprehensively
> > against terrorism in
> > > any form and for any cause," Ahmed said.
> > >
> > > Many skeptics questioned whether an intellectual
> > dismantling of al
> > > Qaeda's religious philosophy could have any impact on
> > recruiting
> > > terrorists in places like Pakistan, where many
> > potential foot soldiers
> > > don't have access to education, much less academic
> > discourse.
> > >
> > > Ahmed says it can.
> > >
> > > "This is not an academic or an intellectual argument
> > alone. This is a
> > > theological argument, based in the Qur'an and Sunnah
> > [practice of the
> > > Prophet]," Ahmed said. "What it provides are easily
> > available
> > > argumentation and proof for the millions of preachers
> > across Pakistan,
> > > who can, in turn, incorporate this into their weekly
> > sermons."
> > >
> > > Ahmed says where it will undoubtedly leave an
> > indelible mark is
> > > online. Just this week, U.S. Army Brig. Gen. John
> > Custer, head of
> > > intelligence at the U.S. military's Central Command,
> > told the CBS
> > > program "60 Minutes" that "without a doubt, the
> > Internet is the single
> > > most important venue for the radicalization of Islamic
> > youth."
> > >
> > > In the recent case involving five young Americans from
> > the Virginia
> > > area, known as the "D.C. Five," who are in a Pakistani
> > jail
> > > potentially facing terrorism charges, the so-called
> > ringleader Ramy
> > > Zamzam allegedly had contact with radical Islamist Web
> > sites. Last
> > > week, 24 year-old Afghan-born American Najibullah Zazi
> > pleaded guilty
> > > to conspiring to blow up high-density targets in New
> > York City.
> > > Prosecutors allege he, too, communicated online with
> > terrorists.
> > >
> > > Salman Ahmad, the lead singer of the Pakistani rock
> > band "Junoon" and
> > > author of "Rock & Roll Jihad: A Muslim Rock Star's
> > Revolution," says
> > > it's young men in the West who can be influenced the
> > most by Qadri's
> > > arguments.
> > >
> > > "The fatwa by the Pakistani Islamic scholar is an
> > important positive
> > > religious ruling and it has been made in the West,
> > where a lot of
> > > young impressionable Muslim kids are being brainwashed
> > by the
> > > terrorists to commit murder and suicide in the name of
> > Islam," Ahmad
> > > said.
> > >
> > > "It's about time Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda realize
> > that Muslims
> > > will not allow their faith and identity to be hijacked
> > by a bunch of
> > > thugs masquerading as holy men."
> > >
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/03/03/terror.fatwa.analysis/
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