[Reader-list] Gujarat DCP shoots Muslim inspector twice in mock anti-terror drill

[anupam chakravartty]

What would you call if a Hindu were killed in such a fake encounter? I
would say even Hindus are not spared in fake encounters in gujarat. I
can see the fervour with which a bunch hooligans lurking on this list,
carry out sporadic attacks on Muslim members of the list without ever
pondering over the issues being discussed here in a pragmatic manner.
Most of the arguments are extremely racist and I find it disgusting to
read such. The intention of posting the news item was not for your
benefit or score a brownie point over a communal battle. It is show
the mindset with which police forces, that they need to understand
their roles as watchdogs is what I gather from the news item. I thank
Javed for posting this. If not for anything else, let there be a
debate about reforms to be carried in policing.

On 3/15/10, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Kshemendra ,
>
> I hope the moderators of SARAI would look into how this forum is misused .
>
> Indeed when we type Gujarat Muslim DCP Muslim inspector the only
> 'proof' we get is Javed's posting on SARAI.
>
> And this is not the first time Javed has done that . I had tried to
> convince the readers earlier as well .
>
> Hope the moderators look into this and prevent misuse of Forum which
> has members from across the world.
>
> @Javed : you need to apologize to this group for your deliberate mischief .
>
> Pawan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Javed very keenly identifies the ATS Inspector as a 'Muslim' and places in
>> the Subject Field " Gujarat DCP shoots Muslim inspector "
>>
>> The word "Muslim" is nowhere to be found on the very weblink of the
>> article as provided by Javed himself.
>>
>> Not satisfied with having done so, Javed adds the comment  "Even Muslim
>> police officers are not safe from fake encounters...." (not to be found on
>> the weblink provided by Javed)
>>
>> One would have to be quite idiotic to not recognise Javed's intentions in
>> making the incident "communal". Whatever be the actual 'story' behind the
>> incident, as of now, there no reports of it having a "communal"
>> background.
>>
>> It is quite likely that the "Muslimness" of the ATS Inspector will get
>> mentioned and highlighted in further reporting of the incident and
>> commentaries on it. There are many Javed's around to do that. But Javed of
>> SARAI "Reader List" will have the honour of being the first one to do so.
>>
>> This should please the Moderator(s) of SARAI Reader List.
>>
>> I just did a string-search for gujarat-dcp-muslim-inspector. It only
>> throws up Javed's  SARAI Reader List mail. Oh Yes! Also a webpage from a
>> site called coastaldigest.com with obvious ideological leanings
>>
>> Kshmendra
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Husain dan.ayyaar at gmail.com
>> Mon Mar 15
>> Javed's intent, even if to sensationalize the event, is less harmful then
>> actually shooting a man twice for no fault of his. And it is most
>> important
>> to tackle the intent of the man with a loaded gun shooting at innocent
>> people. Whoever that man be. And if he is a functionary of the state then
>> it
>> becomes even more imperative to tackle it. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
>> Mon Mar 15
>> Dear C.Anupam ,
>>
>> Did I say that any line has been said about Modi.
>>
>> Would you google this news and check the subject line which has come
>> in newspapers .
>>
>> ATS inspector injured by bullet during mock drill  : PTI
>>
>> Gujarat DCP shoots cop during mock-drill  : Indian Express
>>
>> Drill that mocked precautions & exposed inadequacies : Times Of India
>>
>> And then you have a subject line in SARAI ,as follows
>>
>> Gujarat DCP shoots Muslim inspector twice in mock anti-terror drill :
>> Reader-List - SARAI
>>
>> If you do not understand the intent of Javed's mail, then i regret of
>> trying to eductae you on his intent.
>>
>> No more discussion on this from my side . Those who wish to ignore my
>> suggestions may continue to do so.
>>
>> Remember ...till they come marching to your door.
>>
>> Pawan
>>
>>
>> From: Dan Husain <dan.ayyaar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Gujarat DCP shoots Muslim inspector twice in
>> mock anti-terror drill
>> To:
>> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 3:48 PM
>>
>> Dear Pawan:
>>
>> I seldom respond on this list. But I think your response is most flippant,
>> insensitive, callous, off the cuff, prejudiced, and most of all laughable.
>> Think of it. It's like a nightmare. You go for a drill, perfectly planned
>> out, everyone presumably knowing their roles, and suddenly you get shot
>> twice in your stomach. What for? For what reason? Why? The guy was just
>> doing his job. And he gets shot! Bizarre! Absolute nightmare. This is
>> outrageous. I am sure no one would like to live this experience. And when
>> there were clear instructions that no arms to be taken in, why was the DCP
>> carrying a loaded gun. And if he was why would he shoot someone that too
>> twice. My mind belies any accident.
>>
>> And I wonder what would turn you so blind that you'd eagerly defend the
>> wrong too. I don't think anyone will like to be shot at for no fault of
>> theirs. And yes if proven that the DCP shot at the guy with malice and for
>> his religious identity then Modi is to be blamed because he has actively
>> encouraged this mindset.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Danish
>>
>> PS: Please respond to this mailing list and not to me personally. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
>> Mon Mar 15
>>
>> Pawan,
>>
>> Not single line has been said against modi or BJP. Why are you
>> assuming? On what grounds?  On the other hand, if these things are not
>> brought towards the notice of the machinery which is at work, there
>> will be more such Saiyads dying in this way.
>>
>> It is unfortunate that you are diverting the focus of the debate,
>> which should discuss things about police reforms across the country to
>> a political issue. You are absolutely wrong about Javed's intention to
>> post this news item and also using Narendra Modi to make a point here.
>>
>> Anupam
>>
>>
>> Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
>> Mon Mar 15
>>
>> And what a convenient subject line made aptly for Sarai . This is how
>> 'Liberals' are used by Javed and others.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Pawan Durani
>> <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Yes .. Let us blame Modi for this.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > ‘Sir, don’t... I am not a terrorist,’ pleaded ATS inspector as DCP
>>> > shot him twice
>>> >
>>> > Even Muslim police officers are not safe from fake encounters....
>>> >
>>> > Surat: Posted: Sunday , Mar 14, 2010 at 0319 hrs
>>> >
>>> > “Sir, don’t... I am not a terrorist.”
>>> > This is what Gujarat Anti Terrorism Squad (ATS) inspector Shabbirali
>>> > Saiyed says he had shouted, just before Deputy Commissioner of Police
>>> > Subhash Trivedi shot him twice in the abdomen from point blank range
>>> > during the mock anti-terror drill that went haywire at the Surat
>>> > Airport on February 24.
>>> >
>>> > Saiyed still cannot comprehend how and why he was shot by the senior
>>> > officer. No officer was supposed to carry or use live arms and
>>> > ammunition. That apart, Saiyed told The Sunday Express that the entire
>>> > drill had been meticulously planned, including the exact role each cop
>>> > would play. “All the officials in the drill had been briefed
>>> > thoroughly about the role of each. I was to be only an observer tasked
>>> > to find out what mistakes the commandos and other officials commit
>>> > during rescue operations.”
>>> >
>>> > DCP Subhash Trivedi, SP Barot of ATS and a few other officers were
>>> > tasked to act as doctors and rush to a bus in the parking lot of the
>>> > airport in which some officials acting as terrorists were holding
>>> > ‘passengers’ hostage.
>>> >
>>> > Saiyed recalled: “Subhash Trivedi rushed to the bus and caught hold of
>>> > me tightly, though I was supposed to be only an obeserver. I pleaded,
>>> > “Sir , don’t... I am not a terrorist, I am the observer.” But he
>>> > refused to let go of me and we had a scuffle. I was left struggling to
>>> > get out of his clutches when he pulled out his service revolver and
>>> > opened fire, from point blank range. I fell and lost consciousness.”
>>> >
>>> > The .38 calibre bullet entered through his stomach and exited. Saiyed
>>> > is still to recover but is now out of danger.
>>> >
>>> > Interestingly, the DCP, according to Saiyed, was not even tasked to
>>> > take on or grapple with any ‘terrorist’ in the drill, since he was
>>> > acting as a member of a team of ‘doctors’ at the spot who would only
>>> > recce the scene to find out how many hostages and terrorists were in
>>> > the bus. “He was to have only ascertained their numbers to pass on the
>>> > information to the others in the actual rescue team, so that they
>>> > could plan and execute the operation,” according to Inspector Saiyed.
>>> >
>>> > Surat police Commisioner Shivanand Jha confirmed it. “Saiyed was
>>> > deputed as an observer on the spot. He was standing near the entry
>>> > door of bus. DCP Subhash Trivedi was tasked to act as a doctor to
>>> > recce the scene and find out how many hostages were being held by how
>>> > many terrorists, and the weapons they possessed.” The ‘doctor’,
>>> > apparently, was not expected to carry any weapon, much less a loaded
>>> > service revolver.
>>> >
>>> > So what went horribly wrong? The police claim they have no answers to
>>> > share, yet. “We are still doing a free and fair investigation. At this
>>> > moment it is difficult to come to any conclusion. We have taken the
>>> > statements of several airport staff who were also present there and
>>> > statements of several police officials who witnessed the incident,”
>>> > Jha said.
>>> >
>>> > When The Sunday Express contacted Trivedi, he refused to comment.
>>> >
>>> > The investigation is being headed by Jha’s deputy and ATS chief Ajay
>>> > Tomar. A complaint was registered at Umra police station soon after
>>> > Saiyed was shot while state DGP S S Khandwawala directed Tomar to
>>> > carry out a departmental inquiry.
>>> >
>>> > “After preliminary investigations, we have found that the incident was
>>> > an accident and the firing had not been done deliberately. But we are
>>> > waiting for the final report and the report from ballistic experts
>>> > before coming to any conclusion,” said Khandwawala. Asked if an FIR
>>> > would be registered against DCP Trivedi, Khandwawala said: “Let the
>>> > report come and later, on its basis, we will take further action. Both
>>> > the officials are from police department _ they are not some criminals
>>> > _ so it is premature to say anything at this juncture.”
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sir-dont...-i-am-not-a-terrorist-pleaded-ats-inspector-as-dcp-shot-him-twice/590554/0
>>
>>
>>
>>
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