[Reader-list] 140,000 troops in FATA

Tue May 4 01:36:56 IST 2010

tough choices
Elders’ absence hinders army goals in northwest /pk
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/04-elders-northwest-qs-06

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:

> no sorry you totally got that from an enemy perspective. please get this
> right.
>
> if you ask us, we will tell you the following:
> the people of pakistan are the real victim, when the govt of pakistan, the
> pakistan army, sold itself to the united states, becoming a mercenary state
> for them. the relation is completely one-sided. what development in real
> terms have we seen, take any indicator. why are we worse off with many
> systems existing and functioning back in the postpartition days woefully
> nonexistent or malfunctional, let alone any new systems. the answer is quite
> severe. we have a military budget which has to deal with india which is many
> itimes its size and (had been) eadger to destabilize it after breaking it up
> into 2 in 1971, and which had earlier eaten up hyderabad and kashmir. so we
> are now doomed to military spending which comes anyway from the US, leaving
> little in the way of major public projects which could have benefited people
> at large. Government spending was eaten by the military. if you imagine what
> kind of a present society we could have been if we had not stuck to this
> stupid military buildup (you can eveluate your own side). so the war on
> terror is just another day, another cloud. but it follows the covert US
> action in Afghanistan against the Soviets using Afghanis and Pakistanis then
> disappearing for a decade and showing up again this time because the
> militancy the americans had started, charlie wilson's war starring tom
> cruise, could not be put out and took the wtc with it. sorry there is no
> conspiracy here. we are getting the blame 'for not doing enough' and then we
> have to deal with your pearls of wisdom strewn from across the border.
>
> so dear KK, we are not asking for blood money. we are saying:  having
> destroyed the region, you better build it up now, to what it should be like.
> i think this is not only possible, but also a moral responsility of the US
> in no uncertain terms. and we dont trust them either because of this
> history.
>
> best
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> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> USA also pays "Blood Money" to Pakistan which Pakistan accepts very
>> gratefully.
>>
>> In fact there is a constant clamour by many in Pakistan : "You are not
>> paying us enough!!!! We want more!!!! We want more!!!!"
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] 140,000 troops in FATA
>> To: "Sarai Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 1:53 PM
>>
>> one needs to add much salt here:
>>
>>
>>    - reporters are not allowed, you only get the official army version
>>    - civilian casualties are 'normal', very high and not reported,
>> including
>>    extra judicial killings and right violations
>>    - the number of internally displaced people is huge, frequently not
>> taken
>>    care of by anyone let alone by govt
>>    - the motivation in no small measure comes from the US pressuring the
>> PK
>>    army to show that action is being taken, which frequently leads to
>> unstable
>>    conditions, rather than working with local actors with a long term
>> view,
>>    while dealing with a guerrilla like militancy.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:30 AM, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sonia.jabbar@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > FRONT-PAGE
>> > ŒPakistan has moved 100,000 troops from eastern border¹
>> >
>> > By Our Correspondent
>> >
>> > Friday, 30 Apr, 2010 | 01:38 AM PST |
>> >
>> >
>> > WASHINGTON: Pakistan has deployed 140,000 troops in Fata, moving at
>> least
>> > 100,000 soldiers from the Indian border to back up its Œunprecedented¹
>> > crackdown on militants along the Afghan border, says a Pentagon report.
>> >
>> > In its mandatory report to the US Congress on the situation in the
>> > Pakistan-Afghan region, the Pentagon notes that the deployment is the
>> > biggest in the country¹s history on the western border.
>> >
>> > ³This unprecedented deployment and thinning of the lines against India
>> > indicates that Islamabad has acknowledged its domestic insurgent
>> threat.²
>> >
>> > The Pentagon also acknowledges that Pakistani military operations in the
>> > tribal regions have had an impact across the border, placing a ³high
>> degree
>> > of pressure on enemy forces and reduced insurgent safe haven² in eastern
>> > Afghanistan.
>> >
>> > The Pentagon informs Congress that recent arrests by Pakistan of Afghan
>> > Taliban leaders, including the group¹s No. 2, Mullah Abdul Ghani
>> Baradar,
>> > have ³increased insurgent leaders¹ concern over the security of their
>> safe
>> > havens² and created ³financial and logistical² problems for them.
>> >
>> > This assessment contrasts sharply with the Afghan claim ‹ backed by
>> India ‹
>> > that the arrests have weakened Kabul¹s efforts to seek a negotiated
>> > settlement with the Taliban leadership.
>> >
>> > The report quotes a senior US defence official as saying that the
>> arrests
>> > in
>> > Pakistan produced ³a lot of concerned chatter² among Taliban
>> sympathisers
>> > in
>> > Afghanistan, but there¹s no indication of ³a leadership crisis in the
>> > Taliban².
>> >
>> > The Pentagon notes that so far the crackdown in Pakistan is focused
>> almost
>> > exclusively on internal threats and that¹s why it¹s not having any
>> > ³significant impact on the Afghan insurgency in the short term².
>> >
>> > But the crackdown ³offers opportunities in coming months to have a
>> greater
>> > impact on the conflict in Afghanistan depending on how PAKMIL (Pakistani
>> > military) operations evolve,² the report adds.
>> >
>> > ³Pakistan has suffered attacks from terrorists in response to its
>> > successful
>> > operations. These attacks include mass casualty events in Mingora, South
>> > Waziristan agency close to clearing operations as well as in Lahore, far
>> > away from the fighting. ³While these attacks do not appear to have
>> shaken
>> > Pakistan¹s commitment, they do demonstrate, for the time being,
>> insurgent
>> > ability to continue attacks despite successful Pakistani operations,²
>> the
>> > report warns.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/
>> >
>> >
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