[Reader-list] FIR and this list

Tue Nov 30 17:53:14 IST 2010

Having business relationship with Kashmiris, personally Samvit, is not what
I look forward to. There is no need for me to think of it as a real estate
property unlike you all advocating Panun Kashmir in the same vein. If you
consider yourself as a Kashmiri, then I guess you should have been able to
speak against the fortress erected by armed forces, the mis-governance by
subsequent Indian governments, the gross human rights violations.
Sub-nationalism, anti nationalism feeds on these things.You explore this
problem as an anti-India issue, when you have the option of speaking up
against violations by the successive governments while at the same time,
supporting the steps taken to resolve this crisis. Look what you offered
just now as a counter: Panun Kashmir.

anupam

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh yes Anupam, you forgot about the Goshtabas that she was feasting on
> after she spoke at the Aazadi seminar. In KAshmir it is called
> Goshtaba diplomacy. Arundhati knows nothing about Kashmir or
> Kashmiries. She is a fly by night operator and has no business in the
> Valley. She and people like you try to use your verbal jugglery to
> promote an anti India agenda. The fact is that Article 370 does not
> allow people like you to have any business with us Kashmiries. It is
> our land and that is what it stays. We will make Panun Kashmir out of
> it even thought it may take hundreds of years. If there is anyone on
> this forum who needs to zip up it is Arundhati's cronies who are on
> the payroll of many organizations. Also, I removed the garb of
> Arundhati being a pro-poor because she wears western bourgeoisie
> outfits and  goes to expensive gyms. And when she has to address the
> media she will wear a khadi/cotton sari. You twisted these words to
> say that I indulged in a "perverted imagination". You are a classic
> case of Sawan ke andhe ko sab hara hi hara nazar aata hai. (Hindi).
> One who goes blind in spring, sees only greenery all around!!!
> -SR
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:54 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Defensive? I used the word "shame". Unlike yours, My hands are tied in my
> > efforts to understand the complexity of issues in this country. Sadly,
> when
> > a writer addresses this issues, and expresses her views, she is vilified
> to
> > the extant that she becomes the subject of your perverted imagination,
> > Samvit. Her house, where she dwells becomes the object of your scrutiny.
> BUT
> > NOT KASHMIR. BUT NOT AFSPA. So why should states from North East, the
> state
> > of Kashmir demand secession from the Indian state? I dont have to look at
> > historical examples. Your attitudes, Aditya Raj Kaul's attitude speaks
> > volumes. This is your two paisa bit that you do to counter someone's
> > statements. it is SHAME, Samvit. Please do not give me the example of the
> > democratic set up of this country.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I know neither Aditya or nor anyone else on this forum but I am
> >> surprised that if Aditya has registered a complaint why should people
> >> get so defensive. We have a democratic setup and he has every right to
> >> go to the court. Similarly, Arundhati and others have every right to
> >> defend themselves. The Indian judicial system is a multi-tier process
> >> just for the sake that justice should be done. Why is such a fuss
> >> being made about it. This is a simple process. We must respect the law
> >> of the land and if we don't we should be ready to face the
> >> consqueunces. We all make our choices and have to live by them.
> >> -SR
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > It shameful that Aditya Raj Kaul, who is hell bent on producing false
> >> > reports on any issue he feels like has also named one of the list
> >> > members in
> >> > the complaint, out of his desperation and his understanding of the
> >> > Kashmir
> >> > issue.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sorry but I want now to unsubscribe from these list. If memberrs of
> >> >> this
> >> >> list has done that they have shown a flagrant disrespect tor the
> rights
> >> >> of
> >> >> a
> >> >> writer to speak freely and to to express its opinions.
> >> >> A person using the Sate recourses, police and judges to do that, has
> no
> >> >> right to belong to this list, but since I am not the moderator I
> choose
> >> >> ,myself to go and to leave you all with such despicable
> interlocutors.
> >> >> Ana
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Jeebesh <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > dear All,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www.mid-day.com/news/2010/nov/301110-News-Delhi-FIR-Kashmiri-separatist-leader-Syed-Ali-Geelani-Arundhati-Roy-sedition.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Members of this list are behind the private complaint that has
> pushed
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > courts to get an FIR lodged.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There are member of this list who are named in the FIR.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, dear list members, the online and offline flows entangles each
> >> >> > other.
> >> >> > Lets think hard.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > warmly
> >> >> > jeebesh
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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