[Reader-list] Azadi: The Only Way ­ Report from a Turbulent Few Hours in Delhi

[Inder Salim]

Some very interesting quotes at LTG

I quote Shudha
"By the way, none of this means that I agree with Mr. SAS Geelani;s
vision of the future. I am merely stating the facts that I  know and
witnessed"

Shuddha further said, in his brief and crisp presentation at LTG  "
let there be million dialogues "

Arundhati Roy pushed it further, by saying that Kashmiris should not
be indifferent to other injustices, anywhere

thus the debate on Azadi intensified, and SASG too said that he is
ready for talks, provided they are meant to address the core issue,
and not to distract by giving some material concessions. Well, i truly
wish that he had confessed about the KP migration in 90. My guess is
that too will happen one day, if not him, but somebody.

Well, politics is a more or less an game of chess, and no body is a
saint out there.

Further, i feel, the younger generation is taking over the game of
politics in kashmir. It will be quite different after few years, i
only hope it is very creative and non-violent

People like Abudllah III or other dynasty rulers is pathetic thing
which is plaguing not only kashmir but rest of India.

we hope some changes, be it kashmir or else where

with love
is






.


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Shuddha,
>
> I've read with interest your report on the meeting at the LTG and am amazed
> that you have aligned yourself with and have so wholeheartedly endorsed the
> reactionary politics of SAS Geelani.  Whatever he may have said for the
> benefit of audiences in New Delhi he has always advocated Kashmir's
> accession to Pakistan based on the 2-nation theory.  He has made this
> unambiguously clear in his book on the Kashmir issue: 'Nava-e-Hurriyat'.  He
> has reiterated this position as late as Sept 25 in an interview to Seema
> Mustafa of News X where he clearly states the independence option is not
> viable. He has never described the Kashmiri movement as a political struggle
> but a jihad and had in 1992 even written to the Afghan Mujahideen to save
> Kashmir from 'Hindu India.'
>
> And what of the votaries of independence and their assassination by the
> Hizb, the armed wing of the Jamat e-Isami of which Geelani was a member
> until his expulsion in 2003? What is SAS Geelani's position on that?  If he
> has ever condemned it I should be grateful if someone were to send me a
> reference.
>
> That a man who has all his life scorned the notion of an independent Kashmir
> should now detail the character and complexion of such a state including its
> attitude to the sale and consumption of alcohol is truly funny, that he
> should quote Gandhi, even funnier (he was one of the first to castigate
> Yasin Malik's Gandhian methods of fasting as 'un-Islamic'.)  That he should
> call for the return of the Pandits without once condemning their killings or
> the killings of Communists and National Conference workers in Kashmir is
> like Advani speaking about the prosperity of Muslims in Gujarat.
>
> You say Syed Ali Shah says "explicitly" he is not against dialogue, but you
> don't stop to question the placing of preconditions to a dialogue. Geelani
> has scorned talks with Delhi for years.  He has abused those who have talked
> to N Delhi as traitors.  The HM has assassinated those who dared to talk to
> N Delhi, whether it was Moulvi Farooq, Qazi Nissar, and even its own senior
> commanders like Abdul Majid Dar (they didn't even spare his wife Dr.
> Shameema who was shot at and grievously injured several years after her
> husband's murder.)
>
> Who places preconditions and then says let's have unconditional talks?  What
> would you say if New Delhi were to say, we will only speak to SASG if he
> stops describing Kashmir as disputed territory or for that matter we will
> not speak to Hurriyat (M) and JKLF until they give up their stand on
> independent Kashmir?  All of us would think New Delhi as being supremely
> unreasonable to expect a negotiation to begin by insisting the other party
> give up its core premise.
>
> And what is Geelani's FIRST precondition? That India accept that J&K is
> disputed territory. For India to accept that (esp. On SASG's goading) would
> mean, in diplomatese, to forgo its position on the Simla Agreement and all
> other agreements reached with Pakistan post 1972 and return to 1948 and the
> 'dispute' that was framed in the UN Resolutions, meaning, tossing the ball
> back into the UN and set itself up to arbitration from the international
> community.  Why should it do that when both parties to the dispute agreed to
> settle the issue bilaterally?  SAS Geelani knows that well enough and is
> content having tossed his 5 points into the arena and say, well I never said
> I wouldn't talk.
>
> Best
> sj
>
>
> On 22/10/10 3:51 AM, "Shuddhabrata Sengupta" <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
>
>> (Apologies for Cross Posting on Kafila.org)
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I was present and
>> speaking a few hours ago at a meeting titled
> ŒAzadi: The Only Way¹ on the
>> situation in Jammu and Kashmir,
> organized by the Committee for the Release
>> of Political Prisoners at
> the Little Theatre Group in Delhi yesterday (21st
>> October). I was not
> present from the beginning of the meeting as I was
>> traveling from
> another city, but can vouch for what occurred from around
>> 4:30 pm
> till the time that the meeting wound up, well after 8:00 pm in the
>>
> evening.
>
> The meeting took place in the packed to capacity auditorium of the
>>
> Little Theatre Group on Copernicus Marg at the heart of New Delhi.
> Several
>> speakers, including the poet Varavara Rao, Prof. Mihir
> Bhattacharya, Sugata
>> Bhadra, Gursharan Singh, G.N.Saibaba, Professor
> Sheikh Showkat Hussain of
>> Srinagar University, the journalist Najeeb
> Mubaraki, a repesentative of the
>> Naga Peoples Movement for Human
> Rights and Justice, the writer Arundhati Roy
>> and myself spoke at the
> meeting. (I may be missing out some names, for which
>> I apologize, but
> I was not present for a part of the meeting, at the very
>> beginning)
> The climax of the meeting was a very substantive and significant
>>
> speech by Syed Ali Shah Geelani of the Hurriyat Conference (G), which
> spelt
>> out the vision of liberation (Azaadi) and Justice that Syed Ali
> Shah Geelani
>> held out before the assembled public, of which I will
> write in detail later
>> in this text.
>
> The artist known as ŒInder Salim¹ originally from Kashmir,
>> currently
> living in Delhi, made an intervention by inviting the assembled
>>
> people to take (with him) the stance of a masked stone pelter for a
> brief,
>> silent moment. Students from the Jawaharlal Nehru University
> sang a song,
>> ŒTu Zinda Hai to Zindagi Ki Jeet Mein Yakeen Kar¹
> invoking the delights of
>> life and liberation. In conclusion, the
> meeting adopted a resolution, which
>> was read, on behalf of the
> Committee for the Release of Political Prisoners,
>> by Mihir Bhattacharya.
>
> The atmosphere, for the several hours that I was
>> present, was
> absolutely electric. The vast majority of the audience was warm
>> and
> appreciative of all the speakers. They were patient and respectful ­
>>
> and despite grave provocation from a section that identified
> themselves as
>> ŒIndian patriots¹ and partisans of the ŒKashmir as
> indivisible part of
>> India¹ position -  that repeatedly tried to
> interrupt the meeting and heckle
>> speakers, and on one occasion even
> tried to throw an object at the dias ­
>> did not stoop to be provoked
> by these pathetic attempts at disruption of a
>> peaceful gathering.
>
> No provocative, secterian or hateful slogans were raised
>> by the
> majority of the people present. The only provocative posturing that I
>>
> witnessed was undertaken by the self-declared Indian patriots, who
> were not
>> stopped from having their say, but were requested simply not
> to disrupt the
>> proceedings.
>
> When their behaviour crossed the limits of public decency, they
>> were
> escorted out of the premises by representatives of the Delhi Police.
>>
> The Delhi Police, to their credit, did not act against the majority
> of the
>> audience, simply because the majority of the audience
> conducted themselves
>> in a completely civil and democratic manner.
>
> There was no attempt made at
>> intimidation of any kind. Professor SAR
> Geelani, who was conducting the
>> proceedings on behalf of the
> organizers ­ Committee for the Release of
>> Political Prisoners
> (CRPP) , repeatedly asked the people obstructing the
>> speakers to
> conduct themselves in a cultured and dignified manner. His pleas
>> were
> disregarded by the section of the crowd that let its ŒIndian
>>
> patriotism¹ get the better of its civilisation. When things got a
> little
>> too hot on occasion, the majority of the audience present
> simply drowned the
>> rude remarks and indignant posturing of the small
> minority of self styled
>> Indian patriots and champions of the ŒKashmir
> as indivisible part of India¹
>> position ­ in wave after wave of
> cheerful but firm hand clapping.
>
> While
>> there as enthusiastic cheering and sloganeering from the
> majority of the
>> young men and women assembled at the gathering, there
> was no attempt while I
>> was present to give the slogans a religious or
> secterian colour. When Syed
>> Ali Shah Geelani said that the people of
> India and Kashmir are tied together
>> by the bonds of insaaniyat
> (humanity), when he quoted Gandhi, or spoke of
>> the necessity of
> conducting a non-violent struggle that was devoid of
>> hatred, or even
> when he said that he wished to see India rise as a great
>> power in the
> world, but as a power that felt no need to oppress others, he
>> was
> wholeheartedly and sincerely applauded, by the majority of people
>>
> present in the auditorium, regardless of whether or not they were
>>
> Kashmiri.
>
> Yesterday¹s meeting needs to be seen in the context of a momentum
>> of
> different events, which have included public meetings at Jantar
> Mantar,
>> meetings in the Jawaharlal Nehru Universtiy and Delhi
> University, film
>> screenings and talks, independently organized
> exhibitions on the history of
>> Jammu and Kashmir in educational
> institutions, photographic exhibitions on
>> the situation in Kashmir
> today that have taken place recently at the India
>> Habitat Centre,
> while Kashmir has reeled under the brutality of the
>> occupation that
> has resulted in a hundred and eleven deaths of unarmed or
>> stone
> pelting people, including children and teenagers. The momentum of
>>
> this process, which recognizes the urgency of the situation in
> Kashmir,
>> needs to be taken to its logical conclusion, until the world
> and the
>> international community sits up and takes notice of the true
> nature of the
>> hold of the Indian state on Kashmir and its people.We
> need many more such
>> meetings and gatherings in Delhi, and indeed in
> every large city in
>> India.
>
> It must be maintained so that even a Barack Hussein Obama, scheduled
>>
> to visit New Delhi in November, is compelled to recognize the fact
> that the
>> conduct of the Indian state in Kashmir, based as it is on
> brutal violence
>> and intimidation, based as it is on a disregard of
> every norm of the conduct
>> of civilized governance is unacceptable to
> the world. You simply cannot
>> claim to be the world¹s largest
> democracy and preside over the deaths of
>> 70,000 people in twenty
> years. You cannot claim to be judged as a democracy
>> and have laws
> like the Armed Forces Special Powers Act. You cannot claim to
>> be a
> democracy and have your police and paramilitaries beat children to
>>
> death openly on the streets, or rape and kill young women with
> impunity. A
>> state that does so is an oppressive, immoral, occupying
> power, and needs to
>> be resisted by every right thinking person in the
> world. The Indian state¹s
>> record in Kashmir over the past several
> decades is not only an oppression
>> visited on the people of Kashmir,
> it is an insult to the United Nations, to
>> the world community, and to
> every principle of justice, fairness and
>> democracy. It is an insult
> to all the peace loving and freedom loving
>> citizens of India that do
> not wish to see oppression carried out in their
>> name.
>
> This is the message that needs to go out, and is going out, not only
>>
> from the streets of Sringar, Baramulla and Kupwara, but also from
>>
> gatherings, such as yesterdays, from the heart of Delhi, the capital
> of
>> India. We, who are the friends of liberty and justice in India,
> need to
>> stand besides our Kashmiri brothers and sisters and say to
> the world that we
>> do not accept the lies put out by the Indian state
> and its apologists on
>> Kashmir. That is the true significance and
> import of the process in which
>> yesterday¹s meeting plays an important
> part. This process will not stop
>> until the world takes notice. The
> United Nations, and the broad democratic
>> currents as well as the
> political leaderships of Europe, the Americas, and
>> of every
> significant power in the world needs to know that hundreds of
>> people,
> young and old, intellectuals, writers, activists, lawyers, teachers
>>
> and others, Indians and Kashmiris can stand united, in Delhi, at the
> heart
>> of the Indian Republic¹s capital, in refusing to accept the
> continued
>> occupation of Jammu and Kashmir, by India and by Pakistan.
> That they believe
>> that it is only the people of Jammu and Kashmir who
> must decide for
>> themselves their own future destiny, peacefully, in a
> climate free of
>> coercion and intimidation.
>
> As Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Sheikh Showkat
>> Hussain said, all that
> they are asking for is the right to self
>> determination, promised by
> India, before the Untied Nations, to be freely
>> enacted through a
> plebiscite, in conditions of peace and liberty, without
>> the presence
> of armed force, for the inhabitants of every part of the
>> undivided
> state of Jammu and Kashmir ­ regardless of whether the results of
>>
> that plebiscite are in favour of India, Pakistan or an independent,
> united,
>> Jammu and Kashmir that can live in peace with all its
> neighbours in South
>> Asia.
>
> There was a great diversity of statements and styles  present in
>>
> abundant splendour at yesterday¹s meeting. There was no way by which
> the
>> meeting could be reduced or simplified a single monotonous
> statement. Yes,
>> all the panelists, spoke unambiguously about the
> necessity for ending the
>> military occupation by the Indian state in
> Kashmir. This does not mean that
>> their statements and sentiments were
> a manufactured and processed
>> uniformity. The people on the panel may
> have significant political and
>> philosophical differences amongst
> themselves, they may even think
>> differently about what ŒAzaadi¹ might
> mean, but this was a sign, not of the
>> weakness, but of the strength
> and vitality of yesterday¹s
>> gathering.
>
> ŒAzaadi¹ if and when it comes, will not be the parting gift of an
>>
> exhausted colonial power, it will be the harvest of the fruits of the
>>
> imaginations and intelligences of millions of people, of their
> debates and
>> their conversations.
>
> What was extremely heart warming was the fact that each
>> speaker spoke
> of the fact that the voices of the people of Kashmir are no
>> longer
> alone and isolated, that there is a chorus of voices in different
>>
> parts of South Asia that echo and endorese their desire for
> liberation from
>> a brutal militarized occupation. From my notes of the
> time that I was there,
>> I recall that the writer Arundhati Roy, while
> endorsing the demand of Azaadi
>> for Kashmir, reminded the audience of
> the need for the people of Kashmir not
>> to be selective about justice
> and injustice, that they must find methods to
>> forge webs of
> solidarity with all the suffering and oppressed peoples of
>> India. She
> was heckled and rudely interrupted by a small group of Indian
>>
> nationalists in the audience, who repeatedly raised the situation of
>>
> Kashmiri Pandits, Arundhati Roy, when she was able to resume
> speaking,
>> spoke unambiguously about the fact that she considered the
> situation of
>> Kashmiri Pandits to be a tragedy. She was echoed in this
> sentiment later by
>> Syed Ali Shah Geelani who said that he personally
> stands guarantee for the
>> safety and security of all minorities,
> Hindu, Sikh, Buddhists, Christians
>> and others in a future free
> Kashmir. He implored the Pandits to return to
>> Kashmir, and said, that
> they are an integral part of Kashmiri society. He
>> spoke of the need
> for ensuring that a free Kashmir was a just Kashmir, and
>> that justice
> meant that the freedom, safety and security of all minorities,
>> of
> their property, their places of worship, their freedom of conscience
> be
>> given the utmost importance. He reminded the assembled people that
>>
> throughout these turbulent months, the people of Kashmir have
> continued to
>> be hospitable to Hindu pilgrims, have set up
> ŒLangars¹ (Kitchens) for them,
>> and have cared for them when they have
> fallen sick, despite being at the
>> receiving end of the violence of
> the Indian state.
>
> I spoke briefly, about
>> the fact that I was proud that so many of us
> had gathered in my city, Delhi,
>> putting aside the abstraction of our
> politically determined, state given
>> construct of citizenship, and
> standing, here, now, on the grounds of a
>> concrete human solidarity
> with the people of Kashmir. I spoke of the fact
>> that there are
> significant voices, even in the mainstream media who have
>> been
> compelled to recognize the urgency of the situation in Kashmir, by
>>
> the sheer determination of the youth of Kashmir to get the news of
> what is
>> happening in Kashmir out to the world. I spoke of the role
> played by
>> facebook sites like ŒAalaw¹ and blogs, and the fact that
> the people of India
>> and the world can no longer be kept in the dark
> by a pliant media, as
>> happened in 1989-90. I spoke of the ways in
> which the viral circulation of
>> leaked videos of the humiliation of
> Kashmiri youth on facebook pages and
>> online fora have successfully
> shown us what the reality of Kashmir is today.
>> I urged media
> professionals in the mainstream media to introspect and
>> reflect on
> the role that they may be compelled, against their own
>> professional
> ehtics, to play in the pyschological and propaganda war that
>> the
> Indian state is currently conducting. I spoke of my sense of shame
> and
>> remorse at the evasive and dissimulating role played by sections
> of the
>> mainstream media in India while reporting (or not reporting)
> atrocities that
>> make even the images from Abu Gharaib pale in
> comparison.
>
> I am ashamed to
>> say, that despite my respectful plea to the media to
> play a responsible role
>> in their reportage of Kashmir related
> matters, major channels like Times Now
>> and NDTV once again let the
> truth down in their reports on the days events.
>> NDTV saw it fit to
> simply report
>
> an incident of Œshoe throwing at SAS
>> Geelani¹. A shoe (or some other
> indeterminate object) was indeed thrown, but
>> not at Geelani. It
> landed on a bottle of water in front of another speaker,
>> while he was
> speaking. So let¹s at least set that record straight. Arnab
>> Goswami
> of Times Now, while conducting what he likes to call a Œdebate; on
>>
> the programme called ŒNews Hour¹ (neither News, nor just an Hour)
>>
> repeatedly uttered hysterical untruths, such as the presumption that
> ŒNo
>> State permits the advocacy of secession and self determination¹
> and that a
>> meeting such as the one I participated in yesterday, were
> it to take place,
>> say, in the United States, would immediately lead
> to all speakers present
>> (including, presumably, myself) in being
> imprisoned on charges of sedition.
>> I have to inform my readers here,
> that on both counts, Arnab Goswami is
>> wrong. Seriously wrong. Either
> he is a misinformed idiot. Or he knows that
>> he is wrong, and is lying
> to his public through his teeth. We can choose to
>> be generous about
> how he would interpret his motives, and assume he is
>> simply a fool.
>
> Goswami, consequently demanded to know why we were not
>> immediately
> imprisoned under section 124 of the Indian penal code. Arnab
>> Goswami
> needs to be reminded, that in United States law, the provisions of
>>
> the Sedition Act are applicable only in times when the country is in
> a
>> declared state of war. And therefore his analogy does not apply, as
> I am not
>> aware that the Indian republic is currently in a declared
> state of war, as
>> per international law, (unless Arnab Goswami has
> lost his marbles to the
>> extent that he confuses the shadow boxing
> that he does on television with a
>> war declared by a state under
> international law). That, furthermore, the
>> provisions of the US
> Sedition Law have been declared substantially void by
>> the US Supreme
> Court ruling in the Brandenberg vs. Ohio (1969) judgement,
>> and of
> course, by the US Supreme court guaranteeing the primacy of free
>>
> speech, including Œseditious¹ speech, including the burning of the
> United
>> States flag, under the provisions of the first amendment to
> the US
>> constitution.
>
> There have been repeated attempts made to pass a law that would
>> make
> Œflag burning¹ an offence under US Law. Fortunately, (for liberty and
>>
> free speech) as of now, these attempts have not come to pass, and
>>
> currently, under US Law it is perfectly legal to advocate self-
>>
> determination and secwssion, if done peacefully, even to the extent
> of
>> burning or destroying or descerating symbols of state authority
> like the
>> national flag. Furthermore several constiutions, such as the
> constitutions
>> of Canada, Ethipopia, Austria and France, implicitly or
> explicitly, provide
>> for a legal expression of right to self
> determination, provided it is
>> exercised in a peaceful and democratic
> manner, as part of the freedom of
>> expression principle.
>
> But the point that needs to be made is larger than
>> whether or not
> Arnab Goswami is a fool and a charlatan. Yesterday¹s meeting
>> was a
> historic opportunity for his channel, and indeed for all of the
>>
> Indian mainstream media, to report and take cognizance of the fact
> that
>> there is a significant section of Indian public opinion that is
> actually in
>> favour of ŒAzaadi¹ in Kashmir. I am not suggesting that
> this section
>> constitutes an overwhelming majority at present (that
> might change) but,
>> that it does exist, and that it presents, cogent,
> precise arguments, that
>> cannot be dismissed, (as is being done by
> Times Now and its ilk) by invoking
>> the spectre of Œterrorism¹. There
> is hardly any Œterrorism¹ in Kashmir today
>> (if we don¹t count the
> Indian state and its terror) . The 111 people who
>> have died in the
> past months, have not died at the hands of non-state
>> insurgents, they
> have died, unarmed, facing the bullets of the Indian state.
>> The
> movement for Azaadi in Kashmir has left the culture of the gun and
> the
>> grenade behind. It fights today without weapons, armed only with
> courage. If
>> there is a terrorist in Kashmir today, he wears the
> uniform of the forces of
>> the Indian state, and carries the weapons
> supplied by the arsenal of the
>> Indian state. To discount the voices
> that rise in dissent against this
>> reality as Œterrorist sympathizers¹
> as Arnab Goswami has done on his channel
>> is to insult reality.
>
> Syed Ali Shah Geelani spoke of the bonds of insaaniyat
>> that tie the
> peoples of Kashmir and India yesterday. I heard him say this. I
>> was
> barely five feet away from him. I heard him speak of his regard and
>>
> respect for the minorities in Jammu and Kashmir. I do not agree with
> much
>> of what Geelani Saheb represents politically, or ideologically,
> but I have
>> no hesitation in saying that what he said yesterday, was
> surprising for its
>> gentleness, for its consideration, for its
> moderation, even for its
>> liberality and open heartedness. This should
> have been big news. That Syed
>> Ali Shah Geelani said that he wants to
> see a strong and resurgent India. I
>> heard him say this. And was this
> reported by anyone? NO. Was it reported
>> that he was cheered when he
> said this ? NO. Was it reported that no one had
>> any thing angry to
> say against the struggling peoples of India?  NO. Was it
>> reported
> that SAS Geelani expilicity said that he is NOT against dialogue,
>>
> provided that the five point formula put forward by him (none of
> whose
>> provisions ­ 1. acceptance of the disputed nature of the
> territory of Jammu
>> and Kashmir, 2. repeal of AFSPA and other black
> laws, 3. release of
>> political detenues and prisoners, 4. withdrawal
> of the disproportionate
>> presence of the armed forces and 5.
> punishment to those gulty of taking life
>> in the past few months ­
> require the government of India to think Œoutside¹
>> the framework of
> the Indian Constitution) are accepted as the basis of the
>> dialogue? NO.
>
> Don¹t you think that it makes BIG news that the tallest
>> separatist
> leader in Jammu and Kashmir actually, in a moderate voice, spells
>>
> out, in Delhi, the fundamental basis of a considered dialogue with
> the
>> Indian state, while offering it a chance to do so on bases that
> are
>> absolutely reasonable and sound, and honourable to all concerned?
> Do you not
>> think that a responsible media organization would consider
> this a scoop, a
>> major news stor?  But that is not what happened.
>
> Instead, Times Now, (and I
>> am waiting for the morning newspapers to
> see how far this muck has spread)
>> chose to focus on the deliberately
> staged disruption of a handful of agent
>> provocateurs, our familiar
> posse of self styled patriotic champions of the
>> continued occupation
> of Kashmir, who posed for the camera, hyperventilated,
>> and occupied,
> perhaps no more than five percent of the attention of several
>> patient
> hours. If you saw the news reports on Times Now¹s ŒNEWSHOUR¹
>>
> programme, you would have thought that all of what happened was their
>>
> presence as a Œprotest¹ against the meeting. As someone who was
> present
>> through much of this, I am totally, utterly aghast that a lie
> of such
>> magnificient proportions could be dished out with such ease.
> I am aghast
>> that Aditya Raj Kaul who was one of the panel invited by
> Arnab Goswami to
>> the Times Now Newshour show could lie with a
> straight face by saying that
>> there was no attempt made to Œdisrupt¹
> the meeting by those who were there
>> to represent his point of view.
>
> Someday, I hope that all of these people, the
>> Arnab Goswamis of the
> world, find reason to repent for continuing to keep
>> the people of
> India and Kashmir in the dark. They had better think hard,
>> because
> the day when they will have cause to repent, is not far. Azaadi will
>>
> come to Kashmir, and with it, a glimmer of Azaadi will be the share
> of
>> those people in India who stood by their Kashmiri friends, in
> their darkest
>> hour.Going by what I witnessed yesterday, there will be
> many such people, so
>> Arnab Goswami and his ilk had better start
> practicing how to say sorry,
>> several hundred times a
>> day.
>
>
>
> best,
>
>
>
> Shuddha
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Shudd
>> habrata Sengupta
>
>
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