[Reader-list] Geelani announced one Article of the Constitutionof Free Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy"

Inder Salim indersalim at gmail.com
Sun Oct 24 22:04:30 IST 2010 

Thanks dear,
i will try to reflect

 I repeat, as you know, that there are War dances, mostly folk, using
actual weapons while dancing on a beat.
And even when there is no direct use of weapons, there is always a
sign, a historical reference to make it potent.  Even war poetry has
eulogized its heroes. There is always celebration of a loss of the
present in the future. We have cherished memories about the days when
we suffered but endured....

It is only in the modern times that we have lost that understanding of
living our respective immediate pasts. Surely, the folk dancers have
no clue or historical knowledge about the event. It is too buried in
the system and yet they need that violent past to celebrate the
present.

One of my performance at Trafalgar square in London was about the
1857. i used the bandwallas dress which has come to them via British
Military Rule in India. Then the poor indian people were employed to
play saxophones and drums etc. Now, they are gone, but the form has
stayed, so much so, that no Indian marriage is possible without their
participation. Surprisingly the caps still have rising sun on them.
That is how we are, all the arts are like that, it is only in the
contemporaneity of imagination that we use is discursively, but the
thing stays....

Now these  bandwalla  hardly glorifying the British rule, far from
that, it is rozi roti (bread ) for them, and essential fashion for the
middle and upper middle class to celebrate. Well that is it.

About the latest in Kashmir: it is very complex to reflect on what it
means for ordinary kashmiri. An average stone pelter is not a hated
figure in kashmir. You agree ?

 And as Peetha has rightly said, that stone pelting is a result of
excessive violence by police and security forces upon the unarmed
protesters . It is actually an outburst of a deeply accumulated anger
about the excessive military presence in the valley. Indian govt and
the state govt has no agency to trust but the police and security
forces to be there in there in the first place.  In that situation the
entire population is pressed against a wall which is too hard to
break. Stone pelting is not an isolated event in kashmir, it is an
symptom of a long history of mistreament.  It is about 1947 hindu
muslim divide. But Kashmiris say that since Yousuf Shah Chek, the last
Kashmiri King, they were simply ruled by one or the other.  So, they
reject the Mughal ruler Akabar the great, and also Jinnah the founder
of Pakistan. Dont they ?

I have done a performance on Palestine issue, and so have i done a
performance on Kashmir issue. I have done things on KP migrations, and
also about Women's issues. I am trying to bring back the sensible, and
my little effort to transform the stone into a paper ball, first at
Jantar Manter and then at LTG is layered , which i guess, has managed
to talk about what is happening on streets, so part of new aesthetics
value judgment.

Those who will throw stones will throw them anyway, both you and me
are not going to stop them, In fact none, all those who spoke at the
LTG will never ever think of pelting a stone to hit the other. Will
they? But any solidarity with the protesters does not amount to bad
faith. It will be reciprocated, they will also endores what they dont
do. For example, Arundhati Roy insisted that Kashmiris should think of
other injustices and not pick and choose

Well, see how the new non-fiction writing is out-witting the fiction
at stalls. The books which speak about the realities uninhibitedly are
liked by the masses. Was not the performance at LTG another book which
has created controversy like those books  which are blamed for
encouraging dissent or indecency etc. and yet we both uphold the
freedom of expression and dont want any banning of books, right.

There is already a huge literature films, poems performances coming
out from modern  movements, Tibetans are supported for their cause all
over the world, much to the annoyance of Chinese. There are many other
examples, but how to see Kashmir, a little away from our national
perspective. The situation is ripe for inserting skepticism in the
minds of young kashmiris,

I am sure SSAG would not have approved the idea of my doing the
performance at the stage which actually obliterated him for a while.
There is no deep willingness in the minds of our intellectuals to
understand the roles which arts can play in deconstructing the logjams
of issues. Be it kashmir or any other. All we do is depend squarely on
the essay prose, mostly journalistic, which creates confusions without
any accountability.

We have actually rendered the arts to a position which is less than a
Dalit. and when it looks grand on the stage it is like a temple
prostitute dancing for the Brahmin or Bureaucrat in the present
context. All the sarkari sufi mehfils finally manage to throw a little
money at the perormers in exchange of legitimizing their corrupt
practices back in their hidden cabins.

See, how shamelessly we bring in tribal dancers time and again to
dance on the occasions which exhibit the voluptuous use of money and
justification of corrupt practices. This all is happening because we
know all the art forms are finally subservient to the Nation State.
They are not autonomous in design. and if they try outside that, they
are labeled uninteresting or against the society or state. See, how we
treat nudity in art,. FN Souza was once arrested along with his nude
painting. We can lynch Hussain for daring to do a little line work
depicting Goddess.  We are terribly so...

No, my dear, we are basically too primitive in concept. Primitive not
in positive sense, but unwittingly feeding the system which is
enriching the capitalist consumerist world order.
Well, if we all are zombies and are willing to lead a life which has
no space for radical thought, then be it so

But how to stop the spirituality to reside in marginality of all that....

I am a little straw on the vast surface

with love
is







On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:33 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can better answer that question. I was not sure you were a dance about
> the war. If you help me answer your question you can actually clarify your
> position in the mock throw.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Inder Salim" <indersalim at gmail.com>
> To: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Geelani announced one Article of the
> Constitutionof Free Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy"
>
>
>> are not there dances
>> which are based on war
>> do they glorify wars?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:35 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But dear Inder Salim ji. I think I read that statement and expressed my
>>> skepticism. If Inder Salim ji says he does not support violence but
>>> glorifies stone pelters on any forum to do with Kashmiri separatists, I
>>> will
>>> have reason to be skeptical about his statement about nonviolence.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Inder Salim" <indersalim at gmail.com>
>>> To: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Geelani announced one Article of the
>>> Constitutionof Free Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy"
>>>
>>>
>>>> But dear Taraprakash ji
>>>> Shudda concludes
>>>>
>>>> "By the way, none of this means that I agree with Mr. SAS Geelani;s
>>>> vision of the future. I am merely stating the facts that I know and
>>>> witnessed."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inbox
>>>> X
>>>>
>>>> cashmeeri
>>>> Geelani announced one Article of the Constitution of Free Kashmir - its
>>>> "Liqu...
>>>>
>>>> 2:38 PM (22 hours ago)
>>>>
>>>> Reply
>>>>
>>>> |
>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>> Well, on these grounds, Syed Ali Shah Geelani is more moderate than
>>>> Mohandas ...
>>>>
>>>> 3:03 PM (22 hours ago)
>>>> Shuddhabrata SenguptaLoading...
>>>> 3:03 PM (22 hours ago)
>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>> to cashmeeri, Sarai
>>>>
>>>> show details 3:03 PM (22 hours ago)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, on these grounds, Syed Ali Shah Geelani is more moderate than
>>>> Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, who advocated total prohibition,
>>>> (regardless of whether one was or was not a believer in any religion)
>>>> and was even against the drinking of tea. Does that mean that we think
>>>> that his vision of 'Ram Rajya' would be identical to what Aalok Aima
>>>> considers to be an Islamic state?
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, the state of Gujarat, has consistently imposed total
>>>> prohibition in deference to M.K. Gandhi's ideas on prohibition for as
>>>> long as it has existed as a state of the Indian Union. So, as per Mr.
>>>> Aima's suggestion, would we now be prepared to admit that Mr. Modi's
>>>> Gujarat (and the Gujarat of all his predecessors) is the closest we
>>>> have come to having an 'islamic State' in India. Oh no, the closest we
>>>> actually came to being an Islamic state in India was actually during
>>>> Morarji Desai;s prime ministership, when some of the current champions
>>>> of Hindutva were in power, when total prohibition was imposed on all
>>>> of India. In fact we came even closer than the vision of SAS Geelani,
>>>> which at least allows the 'non-believer' his or her daily tipple?
>>>> Incidentally, Mr. Geelani went on to suggest that if a bottle of
>>>> alchohl belongiing to a non believer was willingly or unwillingly
>>>> damaged by a Muslim, then the state would have to compensate the
>>>> non-believer for that damage. I haven;t quite heard of an Islamic
>>>> state willing to pay people to drink alchohl (if their bottle has been
>>>> damaged). He went on to quote an 'aayat' that said - "Muslims, do not
>>>> insult even the idols (but) of the idol worshippers, for they will
>>>> insult your God in return" and that the obligations of humanity are
>>>> binding in our relations even with those we consider to be our
>>>> enemies. Interesting stuff, coming as it does from the man who is so
>>>> offen held up as a figure of inflexible bigotry.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, none of this means that I agree with Mr. SAS Geelani;s
>>>> vision of the future. I am merely stating the facts that I know and
>>>> witnessed.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Shuddha
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22-Oct-10, at 2:38 PM, cashmeeri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Geelani announced one Article of the Constitution of Free Kashmir
>>>> - its "Liquor Policy":
>>>>
>>>> http://www.prokerala.com/news/articles/a176267.html
>>>>
>>>> "The system of justice in an independent Jammu and Kashmir would
>>>> be such that even liquor would not be banned for non-Muslims. It would
>>>> be prohibited fo......r the Muslim majority but if minorities feel
>>>> they want to have liquor they would be allowed to consume as their
>>>> right,"
>>>>
>>>> Hello!!!! Hello!!!!
>>>> I thought it was going to be a Secular Free Kashmir. This sounds
>>>> suspiciously like an Islamic Free Kashmir.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting prospect : Free Kashmir ..... no Non-Muslims ..... no Liquor
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is the "Tourism Policy"
>>>>
>>>> ............. aalok aima
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>>>> Raqs Media Collective
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>>>> www.sarai.net
>>>> www.raqsmediacollective.net
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> |
>>>> TaraPrakash
>>>> to Shuddhabrata, cashmeeri, Sarai
>>>>
>>>> show details 9:49 PM (15 hours ago)
>>>>
>>>> The point probably the mailer was making and you are missing is that
>>>> the assumption is that SASG's "free" Kashmir will be primarily an
>>>> Islamic state that will allow some unislamic things to happen. This is
>>>> the same vision of Hindu Rashtra that Advani was selling to Indians
>>>> when BJP was being seen as taking power away in India.
>>>>
>>>> That you don't necessarily agree with SASG makes no freaking sense to
>>>> me especially when you have unequivocally blatantly unskeptically
>>>> defended and justified SASG on this forum. By becoming a SASG stooge
>>>> you have joined the ranks of RSS. By putting SASG and MK Gandhi in the
>>>> same sentence you killed the embodiment of nonviolence once more, and
>>>> joined RSS ranks in more than one way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shuddhabrata Sengupta"
>>>> <shuddha at sarai.net>
>>>> To: "cashmeeri" <cashmeeri at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Geelani announced one Article of the
>>>> Constitutionof Free Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy"
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, on these grounds, Syed Ali Shah Geelani is more moderate
>>>> than Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, who advocated total prohibition,
>>>> (regardless of whether one was or was not a believer in any religion)
>>>> and was even against the drinking of tea. Does that mean that we
>>>> think that his vision of 'Ram Rajya' would be identical to what
>>>> Aalok Aima considers to be an Islamic state?
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, the state of Gujarat, has consistently imposed total
>>>> prohibition in deference to M.K. Gandhi's ideas on prohibition for as
>>>> long as it has existed as a state of the Indian Union. So, as per Mr.
>>>> Aima's suggestion, would we now be prepared to admit that Mr. Modi's
>>>> Gujarat (and the Gujarat of all his predecessors) is the closest we
>>>> have come to having an 'islamic State' in India. Oh no, the closest
>>>> we actually came to being an Islamic state in India was actually
>>>> during Morarji Desai;s prime ministership, when some of the current
>>>> champions of Hindutva were in power, when total prohibition was
>>>> imposed on all of India. In fact we came even closer than the vision
>>>> of SAS Geelani, which at least allows the 'non-believer' his or her
>>>> daily tipple? Incidentally, Mr. Geelani went on to suggest that if a
>>>> bottle of alchohl belongiing to a non believer was willingly or
>>>> unwillingly damaged by a Muslim, then the state would have to
>>>> compensate the non-believer for that damage. I haven;t quite heard of
>>>> an Islamic state willing to pay people to drink alchohl (if their
>>>> bottle has been damaged). He went on to quote an 'aayat' that said -
>>>> "Muslims, do not insult even the idols (but) of the idol worshippers,
>>>> for they will insult your God in return" and that the obligations of
>>>> humanity are binding in our relations even with those we consider to
>>>> be our enemies. Interesting stuff, coming as it does from the man
>>>> who is so offen held up as a figure of inflexible bigotry.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, none of this means that I agree with Mr. SAS Geelani;s
>>>> vision of the future. I am merely stating the facts that I know and
>>>> witnessed.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Shuddha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22-Oct-10, at 2:38 PM, cashmeeri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geelani announced one Article of the Constitution of Free
>>>> Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy":
>>>>
>>>> http://www.prokerala.com/news/articles/a176267.html
>>>>
>>>> "The system of justice in an independent Jammu and Kashmir
>>>> would be such that even liquor would not be banned for non-Muslims.
>>>> It would be prohibited fo......r the Muslim majority but if
>>>> minorities feel they want to have liquor they would be allowed to
>>>> consume as their right,"
>>>>
>>>> Hello!!!! Hello!!!!
>>>> I thought it was going to be a Secular Free Kashmir. This
>>>> sounds suspiciously like an Islamic Free Kashmir.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting prospect : Free Kashmir ..... no Non-Muslims .....
>>>> no Liquor
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is the "Tourism Policy"
>>>>
>>>> ............. aalok aima
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>>>> Raqs Media Collective
>>>> shuddha at sarai.net
>>>> www.sarai.net
>>>> www.raqsmediacollective.net
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Forward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:49 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The point probably the mailer was making and you are missing is that
>>>>> the
>>>>> assumption is that SASG's "free" Kashmir will be primarily an Islamic
>>>>> state
>>>>> that will allow some unislamic things to happen. This is the same
>>>>> vision
>>>>> of
>>>>> Hindu Rashtra that Advani was selling to Indians when BJP was being
>>>>> seen
>>>>> as
>>>>> taking power away in India.
>>>>>
>>>>> That you don't necessarily agree with SASG makes no freaking sense to
>>>>> me
>>>>> especially when you have unequivocally blatantly unskeptically defended
>>>>> and
>>>>> justified SASG on this forum. By becoming a SASG stooge you have joined
>>>>> the
>>>>> ranks of RSS. By putting SASG and MK Gandhi in the same sentence you
>>>>> killed
>>>>> the embodiment of nonviolence once more, and joined RSS ranks in more
>>>>> than
>>>>> one way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shuddhabrata Sengupta"
>>>>> <shuddha at sarai.net>
>>>>> To: "cashmeeri" <cashmeeri at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Geelani announced one Article of the
>>>>> Constitutionof Free Kashmir - its "Liquor Policy"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, on these grounds, Syed Ali Shah Geelani is more moderate than
>>>>>> Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, who advocated total prohibition,
>>>>>> (regardless
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> whether one was or was not a believer in any religion) and was even
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> the drinking of tea. Does that mean that we think that his vision of
>>>>>> 'Ram
>>>>>> Rajya' would be identical to what Aalok Aima considers to be an
>>>>>> Islamic
>>>>>> state?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidentally, the state of Gujarat, has consistently imposed total
>>>>>> prohibition in deference to M.K. Gandhi's ideas on prohibition for as
>>>>>> long
>>>>>> as it has existed as a state of the Indian Union. So, as per Mr.
>>>>>> Aima's
>>>>>> suggestion, would we now be prepared to admit that Mr. Modi's Gujarat
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> the Gujarat of all his predecessors) is the closest we have come to
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> an 'islamic State' in India. Oh no, the closest we actually came to
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> an Islamic state in India was actually during Morarji Desai;s prime
>>>>>> ministership, when some of the current champions of Hindutva were in
>>>>>> power,
>>>>>> when total prohibition was imposed on all of India. In fact we came
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> closer than the vision of SAS Geelani, which at least allows the
>>>>>> 'non-believer' his or her daily tipple? Incidentally, Mr. Geelani went
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> to suggest that if a bottle of alchohl belongiing to a non believer
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> willingly or unwillingly damaged by a Muslim, then the state would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> compensate the non-believer for that damage. I haven;t quite heard of
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> Islamic state willing to pay people to drink alchohl (if their bottle
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> been damaged). He went on to quote an 'aayat' that said - "Muslims, do
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> insult even the idols (but) of the idol worshippers, for they will
>>>>>> insult
>>>>>> your God in return" and that the obligations of humanity are binding
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> relations even with those we consider to be our enemies. Interesting
>>>>>> stuff, coming as it does from the man who is so offen held up as a
>>>>>> figure
>>>>>> of inflexible bigotry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, none of this means that I agree with Mr. SAS Geelani;s
>>>>>> vision
>>>>>> of the future. I am merely stating the facts that I know and
>>>>>> witnessed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shuddha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22-Oct-10, at 2:38 PM, cashmeeri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geelani announced one Article of the Constitution of Free Kashmir -
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> "Liquor Policy":
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.prokerala.com/news/articles/a176267.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The system of justice in an independent Jammu and Kashmir would be
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> that even liquor would not be banned for non-Muslims. It would be
>>>>>>> prohibited fo......r the Muslim majority but if minorities feel they
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to have liquor they would be allowed to consume as their right,"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello!!!! Hello!!!!
>>>>>>> I thought it was going to be a Secular Free Kashmir. This sounds
>>>>>>> suspiciously like an Islamic Free Kashmir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting prospect : Free Kashmir ..... no Non-Muslims ..... no
>>>>>>> Liquor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe it is the "Tourism Policy"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ............. aalok aima
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>>>> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>>>>>> Raqs Media Collective
>>>>>> shuddha at sarai.net
>>>>>> www.sarai.net
>>>>>> www.raqsmediacollective.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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