[Reader-list] Statement by Arundhati Roy

[Subhash]

Samvit, you really need to learn how to respect and equate women -
using words like "over the hill" and pretty for anyone tells that you
have had a very distorted education. Why do you have to talk about the
gender of a person while talking of her politics?



On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anuradha,
> Couple of points:-
> 1. Arundati is over the hill, least to say that she is "pretty". You
> are making us believe that in India good looking woman are not
> respected. There are thousands of pretty girls who work all kind of
> time zones and they make us proud. Woman have proved themselves in all
> fields, even outpacing men. So that logic doesn't count.
> 2. It is a typical Gobellian technique to say that she is non-violent.
> She instigates people to all kind of violence. She  hops from city to
> city promoting her vision of an Utopian world.
>
> 2. And yes, you make it sound so simple about the Pandits. If you do
> not know the truth please do not make comments about people who have
> suffered like no Indian ever did. I just pray to God that you never
> have to face what the Pandits have gone thorugh. Imagine a situation
> where you have fanatics banging at you door and hunting for women in
> your family. You are ready to poison them before they fall prey to the
> fanatics. You call the police and you realize that they are siding
> with the zealots. The Indian state is impotent because we have khadi
> clad intellectuals who think helping the Pandits would be non-secular.
> The whole community is uprooted from the Valley while Sonia and Rajiv
> Gandhi are playing with snow en route to Kashmir. You do not even know
> half the story. So I suggest that you do some more research before you
> provide your expertise.
>
> Kashmir and Kashmiri are very complex, the Indian state is too naive
> to handle them.
> -Samvit
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM, anuradha mukherjee <anu.mukh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Inder, I think she makes for a soft target because she is a woman, she is
>> pretty, speaks her mind in a non-violent manner (without the help of gun or
>> crotch grabbing bodyguards). I may disagree with her approach on may issues,
>> may be not in essense but the way she articulates herself, but the woman is
>> courageous. It takes courage to defy the majority view like this.
>> And she gets attention, so those who berate her also share the limelight.
>> But I also disagree with the people who say "nothing happened, Jagmohan
>> created a bogey, Pandit left on their own", "Muslims wants them back" etc.
>> The last statement may or may not be true, but no community gives up its
>> hearths and homes and livelihoods overnight and chooses to live as refugees.
>> But the tragedy of Kashmir is that its daily suffering forces it to discount
>> the sufferings of its Hindu brothers. If you say Azadi, please do not say
>> that Pandits had it easy either (may be those with resources did).
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess people in India will read her only after she gets Nobel for
>>> literature.
>>> which she deserves
>>>
>>>
>>> love
>>> is
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Rajkamal Goswami
>>> <rajkamalgoswami at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Dear Aditya
>>> >
>>> > I am sure yo know about her fictional work 1 novel & 1 screenplay. But
>>> > I am not sure if you have read her non-fictional work. Well she didn't
>>> > win booker for them but she won the "Sydney Peace Prize" and the
>>> > "Sahitya Akademi award" which she politely refused. Her body of non
>>> > fiction work is far greater (both in volume and quality) than her
>>> > fictional work. I hope you have read her work. If not please read
>>> > atleast the essential Roy viz "The greater common good", the "Algebra
>>> > of Infinite justice", "Come September", Do Turkeys Enjoy
>>> > Thanksgiving", "Peace is War", "Listening To Grasshoppers", "Shall We
>>> > Leave It to the Experts?" and my favorite  “The Ladies have feelings
>>> > so…”  You should definitely read the last one because it answers your
>>> > query about the very questions that you have raised.
>>> >
>>> > Regarding a fiction writer being political, well all writers are
>>> > political. That some chose to remain silent is also a political
>>> > activity. That Ms. Roy choses to write her politics and throw it open
>>> > to ideas and criticism is the best thing I really like about her.
>>> > Besides she is also indulged in field activism, giving her voice to
>>> > the voiceless and rooting for real democracy.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > r
>>> >
>>> > On 10/27/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Are you the moderator? Just curious again. You indeed have a big hand.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Tapas Ray [Gmail]
>>> >> <tapasrayx at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> ps: I mean, to Aditya.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 27 October 2010 14:30, Tapas Ray [Gmail] <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> > Really intelligent comment. Let's give him a big hand!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On 27 October 2010 14:23, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >> Isn't she a Fiction writer? Or is she really a writer? Just curious.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Rajkamal Goswami <
>>> >>> rajkamalgoswami at gmail.com
>>> >>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> I am just in awe of this woman.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On 10/27/10, Tapas Ray [Gmail] <tapasrayx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> > Pheeta,
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > No problem, and no need to apologise!
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Best,
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Tapas
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > On 27 October 2010 09:07, Pheeta Ram <pheeta.ram at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> >> Dear Tapas
>>> >>> >>> >> Actually the statement was sent to me by somebody. I forgot to
>>> >>> >>> >> check
>>> >>> if
>>> >>> >>> it
>>> >>> >>> >> had already been published online; that's why there was no link.
>>> >>> Thanks
>>> >>> >>> >> for
>>> >>> >>> >> reminding me the etiquettes of responsible online publishing.
>>> >>> >>> >> I shall take care next time.
>>> >>> >>> >> Pheeta Ram
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Tapas Ray [Gmail] <
>>> >>> tapasrayx at gmail.com
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> Pheeta,
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for this. I think it would be good if we gave the links
>>> >>> along
>>> >>> >>> >>> with any material from online sources that we might be posting.
>>> >>> This
>>> >>> >>> >>> one's is
>>> >>> >>> >>> <
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/arundhati-roys-statement-on-possible-sedition-case-62566
>>> >>> >>> >.
>>> >>> >>> >>> As for offline sources (e.g., printed books, etc.), a mention
>>> of
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >>> >>> source, as complete as possible, would be very helpful.
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks again.
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> Tapas
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 October 2010 02:10, Pheeta Ram <pheeta.ram at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>> >>> > STATEMENT BY ARUNDHATI ROY
>>> >>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >>> > I write this from Srinagar, Kashmir. This morning’s papers
>>> say
>>> >>> that I
>>> >>> >>> >>> > may be arrested on charges of sedition for what I have said
>>> at
>>> >>> recent
>>> >>> >>> >>> > public meetings on Kashmir. I said what millions of people
>>> here
>>> >>> say
>>> >>> >>> >>> > every day. I said what I, as well as other commentators have
>>> >>> written
>>> >>> >>> >>> > and said for years. Anybody who cares to read the transcripts
>>> of
>>> >>> my
>>> >>> >>> >>> > speeches will see that they were fundamentally a call for
>>> >>> justice. I
>>> >>> >>> >>> > spoke about justice for the people of Kashmir who live under
>>> one
>>> >>> of
>>> >>> >>> >>> > the most brutal military occupations in the world; for
>>> Kashmiri
>>> >>> >>> >>> > Pandits who live out the tragedy of having been driven out of
>>> >>> their
>>> >>> >>> >>> > homeland; for Dalit soldiers killed in Kashmir whose graves I
>>> >>> visited
>>> >>> >>> >>> > on garbage heaps in their villages in Cuddalore; for the
>>> Indian
>>> >>> poor
>>> >>> >>> >>> > who pay the price of this occupation in material ways and who
>>> >>> >>> >>> > are
>>> >>> now
>>> >>> >>> >>> > learning to live in the terror of what is becoming a police
>>> >>> state.
>>> >>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >>> > Yesterday I traveled to Shopian, the apple-town in South
>>> Kashmir
>>> >>> >>> which
>>> >>> >>> >>> > had remained closed for 47 days last year in protest against
>>> the
>>> >>> >>> >>> > brutal rape and murder of Asiya and Nilofer, the young women
>>> >>> whose
>>> >>> >>> >>> > bodies were found in a shallow stream near their homes and
>>> whose
>>> >>> >>> >>> > murderers have still not been brought to justice. I met
>>> Shakeel,
>>> >>> who
>>> >>> >>> >>> > is Nilofer’s husband and Asiya’s brother.  We sat in a circle
>>> of
>>> >>> >>> >>> > people crazed with grief and anger who had lost hope that
>>> they
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> >>> >>> > ever get ‘insaf’—justice—from India, and now believed that
>>> >>> >>> >>> > Azadi—freedom— was their only hope. I met young stone pelters
>>> >>> >>> >>> > who
>>> >>> had
>>> >>> >>> >>> > been shot through their eyes. I traveled with a young man who
>>> >>> told me
>>> >>> >>> >>> > how three of his friends, teenagers in Anantnag district, had
>>> >>> been
>>> >>> >>> >>> > taken into custody and had their finger-nails pulled out as
>>> >>> >>> punishment
>>> >>> >>> >>> > for throwing stones.
>>> >>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >>> > In the papers some have accused me of giving ‘hate-speeches’,
>>> of
>>> >>> >>> >>> > wanting India to break up. On the contrary, what I say comes
>>> >>> >>> >>> > from
>>> >>> >>> love
>>> >>> >>> >>> > and pride. It comes from not wanting people to be killed,
>>> raped,
>>> >>> >>> >>> > imprisoned or have their finger-nails pulled out in order to
>>> >>> force
>>> >>> >>> >>> > them to say they are Indians. It comes from wanting to live
>>> in a
>>> >>> >>> >>> > society that is striving to be a just one. Pity the nation
>>> that
>>> >>> has
>>> >>> >>> to
>>> >>> >>> >>> > silence its writers for speaking their minds. Pity the nation
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> >>> >>> > needs to jail those who ask for justice, while communal
>>> killers,
>>> >>> mass
>>> >>> >>> >>> > murderers, corporate scamsters, looters, rapists, and those
>>> who
>>> >>> prey
>>> >>> >>> >>> > on the poorest of the poor, roam free.
>>> >>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >>> > Arundhati Roy
>>> >>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >>> > October 26 2010
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