[Reader-list] WHO IS AFRAID OF ARUNDHATI ROY?

Sat Oct 30 11:07:40 IST 2010

I wish to be caressed with elderly gentleness about what Kashmiri judiciary
means.....

On 30 October 2010 11:02, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are those who wish to shut people up by threatening sedition and
> there
> are others who wish to shut people up by their unrelenting rudeness and
> childishness.
>
>
>
> On 30/10/10 10:46 AM, "Aditya Raj Baul" <adityarajbaul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > awwww poor girl you never understand questions. would you like another
> > candy?
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Dear Parvaiz,
> > I don't understand your big question. Do you not make
> > a distinction between
> > the Kashmiri judiciary and the Indian judiciary, and
> > between the IPC and the
> > RPC?  Please clarify.
> > Sincerely,
> > Sonia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30/10/10 9:32 AM, "Parvaiz Bukhari" <parvaizbukhari at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> > Samvit this is a big question you must ask ypourself....why has the
> >>
> > indian
> > judiciary failed to "perform" in Kashmir unlike
> >  elsewhere in
> > the
> >> examples u give? Or, you are saying the judiciary is also
> > run by
> > the
> >> separatists?
> >
> > On 30 October 2010 09:19, Samvit <samvitr at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Parvaiz,
> >> The fact of the matter is that Indian media does
> > not parrot the
> >> language of
> >> the fanatics (either hindu or muslim) unlike
> > the "Greater
> >> Kashmirs" of the
> >> Valley where the word Pandit is an
> > anathema. Try and pick
> >> up any magazine or
> >> newspaper from the Valley and
> > all they do it glorify
> >>
> >> separatism/terrorism/extremism. It seems they
> > have become the new towers of
> >>
> >> capitalistic Kashmir where money is the
> > opium of the "classes". Selling a
> >>
> >> newspaper is as good as selling a
> > toothbrush.
> >> Indian judiciary, over the
> >> years has done a good (if not
> > excellent) job and
> >> convicted people in all
> >> kinds of crimes. An example
> > being the case against
> >> the former Gujarat Home
> >> Minister Amit Shah. In
> > Kashmir not a single case
> >> against the Pandits has
> >> seen the light of the
> > day. Bitta Karata is out in
> >> the open. Perhaps you
> >> should have written a
> > piece about him. So ironical you
> >> talk about
> >> "surviving".
> >>
> >> Here, the
> > opressor is trying to prove that he is the
> >> oppressed.
> >>
> >> People may
> > write an epic of Gilgamish in Arundhati's honor but
> >> then it will
> >> be as
> > slanderous as the courteisns who used to call Aurangzeb-
> >> "Oh, king of
> >>
> > kings, oh pinnacle of the mercy........."
> >> -Samvit
> >>
> >>
> >> On
> >> Sat, Oct
> > 30, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Parvaiz Bukhari <parvaizbukhari at gmail.com
> >> >
> >>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anxiously waiting for the fear to spread more so that more
> > may
> >> survive
> >>> Indian politicians, media and the court historians of
> > the
> >> day...
> >>>
> >>> On 30 October 2010 05:46, Pheeta Ram
> > <pheeta.ram at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Some people on this list are afraid
> > of 'Arundhati Roy - the
> >> joke' ( BTW,
> >>> a
> >>> > joke is not a joke)
> > because they are afraid of laughing
> >> for obvious
> >>> > reasons:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> > a) they are afraid because some other
> >> people simply love her and are
> > not
> >>> > afraid to confess that
> >>> > b) they
> >> are afraid because she used
> > to visit some upper-class gym in
> >>> skimpy
> >>> >
> >> clothing
> >>> > c) they
> > are afraid because she married twice and is finally
> >> officially
> >>> >
> > single
> >>> > d) they are afraid because she supports maoists
> >> and for them
> > maoist is a
> >>> > term of abuse
> >>> > e) they are afraid because
> >> she
> > supports the Aazadi of Kashmiri people
> >>> from
> >>> > the repressive Indian
> >>
> > state
> >>> >  f) they are afraid because she writes bewitchingly beautiful
> > prose
> >> for
> >>> > subversive, anti-national purposes
> >>> > g) they are afraid
> > because
> >> they think she is publicity hungry
> >>> > h) they are afraid because
> > she is some
> >> day certainly going to win the
> >>> Nobel
> >>> > Prize
> >>> > i)
> > they are afraid
> >> because she is simply beautiful in those curly hair
> >>>
> > and
> >>> > that mellow
> >> childlike voice; and those mesmerizingly wondrous
> > eyes which
> >>> > are
> >>> > not
> >> afraid to sing for you the serenades of
> > freedom
> >>> > j) they are afraid
> >> because they cannot NOTREAD what she
> > writes in a 32
> >>> page
> >>> > long essay
> >> after walking with the comrades in
> > the jungles of Dantewada
> >>> > k) they are
> >> afraid because the Indian state
> > is now terribly scared of
> >>> > putting her in
> >> jail for that shall
> > certainly fetch her the Nobel Prize
> >>> and
> >>> > win
> >> Kashmir the
> > Aazadi
> >>> > l) they are afraid because she shared dais with SASG
> >> and made
> > him
> >>> realize
> >>> > that Kashmiris are not alone in their struggle
> >> and
> > also that Kashmiris
> >>> also
> >>> > need to know that there is a wider world
> >>
> > surrounding them that is also
> >>> > struggling and that they need to
> >>
> > acknowledge it and support it; and that
> >>> > the
> >>> > Kashmiris have the
> >>
> > histories of India and Pakistan ( both collective and
> >>> > separate)
> > before
> >> them to take strict lessons from, to fashion a
> >>> >
> > nation-state
> >>> > that
> >> does justice to the sacrifices of the people who
> > have fought, are
> >>> >
> >> fighting and shall continue fighting for Kashmir;
> > and that all struggles
> >>> >
> >> against the tyrant are essentially
> > connected
> >>> > m)they are afraid because
> >> she hops from one issue to
> > another ( Narmada
> >>> > >>Maoists>>Kashmir>>which
> >> next?)
> >>> > n) they are
> > afraid because she goes against their normative
> >> definitions
> >>> of
> >>> >
> > beauty and gender
> >>> > o) they are afraid because 'even
> >> a rickshawala' is
> > praising her saying
> >>> that
> >>> > she is a 'pseudo
> >> intellectual' (?)
> > (Isn't it a pity that a rickshawala
> >>> of
> >>> > such a
> >> potential is not on
> > the sarai list?).
> >>> > p) they are afraid because the
> >> Indian media -the
> > stooges of Indian state
> >>> -
> >>> > don't know what to do with
> >> her (even
> > supremely articulate ones from the
> >>> > media (like Karan Thapar)
> >> make an
> > ass of themselves while interviewing
> >>> her)
> >>> > q) they are afraid
> >>
> > because she spits on their faces and is not wee bit
> >>> > apologetic about
> > it
> >> because she knows that they deserve it and that its
> >>> her
> >>> > duty
> > to do
> >> that
> >>> > r) they are afraid because she is fast becoming a role
> > model for
> >> the
> >>> > beautiful, well-connected upper-class convent educated
> > women who
> >> are
> >>> > devouring her from cover to cover secretively like
> > mills-and-boons
> >> even
> >>> in
> >>> > their bathrooms ( so that their
> > businessmen fathers and social
> >> butterfly
> >>> > mothers don't catch them
> > reading her) and dreaming about being
> >> her in
> >>> their
> >>> > fantasy worlds
> > (one of them confessed to me) ( in this
> >> manner the
> >>> > phenomenon
> >>> >
> > called Arundhati becomes a past-master in
> >> reverse engineering)
> >>> > s)
> > they are afraid because she has made them realize
> >> that capitalism is
> >>> >
> > like
> >>> > a deadly virus that shall one day surely eat
> >> itself away
> >>> >
> > t) they are afraid because she thinks with a beautiful heart
> >> (hence a
> >>> >
> > 'pseudo-intellectual')
> >>> > u) they are afraid because she
> >> converts
> > "aesthetics of deferral" ( one
> >>> > scourge that afflicts most of the
> >>
> > 'intellectuals' of todays world) into
> >>> a
> >>> > beautiful "aestheto-ethics
> > of
> >> arrival", no mean feat i should say
> >>> > v) they are afraid because
> > they
> >> unconsciously compete with her and
> >>> finding
> >>> > her a sure winner
> > are
> >> afraid to take the challenge
> >>> > w) they are afraid because she
> > challenges
> >> the very rationale of their
> >>> being
> >>> > and becoming
> >>> >
> > x) they are afraid
> >> because she happens to be a woman (like them)
> >>> > y)
> > they are afraid because
> >> the Indian state has done a beautiful job in
> >>> >
> > bringing them up on a steady
> >> diet of 'nationalist' propaganda through
> >>>
> > first
> >>> > beginning with NCERT
> >> textbooks in brainwashing saloons called
> > 'Schools'
> >>> (
> >>> > the reason behind
> >> the popularity of Bollywood and
> > Cricket)
> >>> > z) they are afraid because
> >> despite their manifest hate for
> > her they have
> >>> > serious doubts that some
> >> where down there they love her
> > too.
> >>> > ...
> >>> >
> >>> > BTW, who is afraid of
> >> what comes after Z? Jump
> > the gun please.
> >>> >
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> >> --
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> > Samvit
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> >> To err is
> > human;
> >> to forgive, infrequent.
> >>   - Franklin P.
> >> Adams
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