[Reader-list] Fw: Re: Why Kashmir defies solutions

Rahul Asthana rahul_capri at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 9 01:30:01 IST 2010 

Hi Sonia,
A few questions\observations not directly related to your thread:
1. What is the relation between JKP and army? Is there any cooperation  between 
them ? Are they hostile to each other, have conflicts of stepping on each others 
turf?
2. What is the comparison between JKP and army with respect to human rights 
abuses?
3. In almost all over India police abuse their powers just by virtue of their 
existence. How is army different that they need a special act ? Would it make 
much difference even  if AFSPA is repealed? 

4.  AFSPA seems to me  like a condition of the Army that if they have to do the 
dirty work they want exemption from the judiciary, and they seem to have a veto 
on the govt over it. Its also strange that no political party calls for 
repealing it.

Thanks
Rahul


----- Original Message ----
From: SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
To: Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com>; Sarai <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 7:26:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Re: Why Kashmir defies solutions

You seem to be the one offering all kinds of explanations for what I
consider normal activity.  It only appears abnormal to me in the context of
the current phase of the azadi movement that specifically targets the J&K
Police and not the Indian Army.


On 08/09/10 4:51 PM, "Inder Salim" <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:

> in any case
the poeple in kashmir are free to seek govt jobs
irrespective of
> politics that is plaguing the valley since 1947

or? you  still see it
> differntly?

love
is

On 9/8/10, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not
> sure about the accuracy of your claim of Nehru 'hounding' the leftists
> in
> Kashmir. It was the Left faction in the NC that turned against Sheikh
>
> Abdullah in 1952 when they thought he was hobnobbing with the Americans. You
>
> can read both Josef Korbel's account as well as N.N Raina on what the
>
> Communists thought of Sh. Abdullah. And I really fail to see the connection.
>
> I'd blame Nehru less and our present culture of globalization and glitz and
>
> slick ads on TV more for the decline of interest in crafts and agriculture
>
> and the false glamour attached to white collar jobs.
>
>
> On 08/09/10 4:16
> PM, "Inder Salim" <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Sonia
> i was
> casually surfing about agriculture, and found this
> > interesting
> piece on
> Kurdistan and its agriculture past, it will be quite
> > slippery
> to compare
> it with kashmir, but what i see is that there are
> > some
> historical
> reasons for decline in particular activity, if rampant.
>
>
> > People are not
> happy with rural life, because of number of reasons.
> The crafts
> > people
> are not adequately paid for their skills and they
> naturally shun
> >
> traditional job, and look down disgracefully upon their
> own systems which
>
> > sutain...
>
> but the jobs are  jobs, so a sex workers job is a job as
> much
> > a
> carpenters job is a job.... here certainly people would go for
> the
> easier
> > paths, and which are seen as dignified...and that is what
> must
> have happened
> > in Kurdistan, where they are just little
> traditional
> farming left...
>
> the
> > young boys seeking jobs ( police etc
> )in Kashmir are because we
> traditionally
> > have never respected the
> worker, but a govt servant,
> who manages to find a
> > healthy wealthy and
> beautiful bride easily in
> comparision to non govt
> > servant.
>
> There is
> a some histroy: Both Nehru and his dummy politicans
> > in
> Kashmir hounded
> Leftists like mad dogs. Kashmir was a hub of left
> poltics
> > during 40 to
> 60s. but the entire thing was killed by congress
> policy of india
> > and
> kashmir. (G.M Sadiq first centre installed CM was
> a leftists ). even if we
>
> > forget about the histroy how centre humilated
> Sheikh abdullah time and
> >
> again...
>
> The argument may sound out of palce, at the moment, because it
>
> > does
> not actually speak about the current situation, but had the Indian
>
> govt
> > been far sighted, a skilled crafts man, a farmer would not have
>
> looked  down
> > upon their traditons in a sucha a disrespectful manner,
> but
> that is
> > unlikely.
>
> Needless to say, that it was only J&K and West
> Bengal who
> > experienced
> some land reforms... rest of india was mute
> spectator to
> > brilliant
> changes that were happening under the broad day
> light.... Shame
> > to
> Nehruvian politics of so called socialism, which
> actually was meant
> > to
> gloss the large scale nepotism and lust for power.
> That thing
> > still
> continues, The same Congress and NC are back in power,
> who joined
> hands
> > in histroy at different stages to subvert the actual
> nature of
> kashmir
> > issue.
>
> the discussion can go on
>  will come
> back
>
> hugs
> love
> is
>
> the link
> > below
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/mar1999/pkk-m12.shtml
>
> Another
> >
> sociological study states:
>
> "The share of agriculture in gross domestic
> >
> product sank [from 1962 to
> 1978] from 40 percent to 22.2 percent, even
> though
> > the number of those
> employed on the land has only dropped
> slightly (from 9.7
> > to 9.0
> million). A result of this development was
> sinking incomes for
> > those
> working in agriculture and a subsequent
> migration from the
> countryside.
> > Around the cities, gecekondus (shanty
> towns) sprang up."
> [4]
>
> None of this
> > amounts to the formation of a
> Kurdish bourgeoisie as the
> backbone of an
> > independent nation-state, but
> rather signals the
> integration of the Kurdish
> > people into the Turkish
> and international
> working class. The amalgamation of
> > Turkish and Kurdish
> workers by
> means of a common socialist programme lay
> > within reach. The
>
> perspective of a workers government would undoubtedly have
> > opened up
>
> favourable prospects for the structural development of the
> > backward
>
> mountain regions in the struggle against the oppression of the
> > Kurdish
>
> minority.
>
> On the other hand, the project of forming an independent
> >
> nation-state
> was a backwards-looking reaction to this historic development.
> In
> > the
> beginning it won little support, as there was no realistic
> social
> basis
> > for it--apart from a few unemployed Kurdish academics who
> might
> have hoped to
> > find careers and posts in such a state
> apparatus.
>
> The PKK turned its back on
> > the urban working class.
> Following its
> foundation in 1979-80, it organised a
> > few battles and
> skirmishes with
> the big landowners, which were followed by the
> > peasants
> with a certain
> sympathy from time to time. Support for the PKK
> > remained
> limited as
> they renounced a radical programme to liberate the
> > peasants,
> so as not
> to scare off the "patriotic elements" among the big
> >
> landowners. Their
> bloody conflicts with individual Agas (tribal chiefs),
> rival
> > Kurdish
> organisations and the fascist MHP, more often lead to fear
> and
> > terror
> among ordinary people.
>
> Meanwhile, the social democratic
> government of
> > Bulent Ecevit was
> deliberately raking up national
> chauvinism and religious
> > differences
> in order to gain control of the
> militant workers movement. The
> > 1974
> Turkish invasion of Cyprus occurred
> during Ecevit's period in office.
> He
> > entered a coalition with the
> Islamic Salvation Party (forerunner of
> the
> > present Welfare Party) and
> introduced the state recognition of
> Islamic
> > schools. Once he had
> engineered clashes in this way, in 1978
> Ecevit
> > implemented military rule
> in the Kurdish provinces. At this
> time, there were
> > around a million
> workers and students who were
> members of organisations
> > claiming to be
> socialist.
>
>
>
> On 9/8/10, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> Not at all.  Please see my reply to Inder Salim.
> >
> >
> > On 08/09/10
> >
> 1:24 PM, "Jeebesh" <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
> >
> > > dear Sonia,
> >
> > To
> ask
> > questions and to judge are very different. No?
> >
> > I was just
> >
> > curious if
> > the quizzical ways in which you had mailed the
> > posting
> about
> > > lines of
> > young men joining the police could be stretched
> >
> to other moments in
> > > near
> > times. Somehow from your response it seems
> it
> > cannot be. You somehow
> > >
> > accept one as given and the other as
> strange.
> > Still not sure how you make
> >
> > > that distinction.
> >
> >
> warmly
> > jeebesh
> >
> > On 07-Sep-10, at 7:32 PM, SJabbar
> > wrote:
> >
>
> > >
> > > Why does questioning a phenomena be interpreted as mocking or
> >
> being
> > >
> > > judgmental? You say, 'The maxim of the actors are always
> far
> > more
> > >>
> > > complicated and illegible
> > > than the judgement
> of the
> > spectator.
> > > '
> > >
> > > So
> > > the spectator must suspend
> judgment, must not
> > question?  Then why
> > > do you
> > >
> > > question
> when the state acts within its
> > 'iron frame' inherited from
> > > the
> > >
> ICS?
> > > Mysterious motives must also
> > drive the one who drives you mad
> by
> > >
> > > telling you
> > > he can't find your
> > file or that you must
> pay a bribe to get a
> > > copy
> > > of the
> > > challan
> > which you
> thought due to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/09/10
> > > 7:21 PM,
>
> > "Jeebesh" <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The so called iron frame
> of
> > >
> > indian bureaucracy is produced by ICS
> > > officers.
> > >> It
> was more than
> > getting
> > > on with life :)
> > >
> > > On Kashmir i
> understand very little
> > >>
> > to be able to
> > > comment. But some
> > >
> comments seem to mock the people who
> > are
> > >> trying to
> > >
> articulate
> > > something substantial. A little caution
> > about
> > >>
> interpreting
> > > quickly.
> > > The maxim of the actors are always
> > far
> more
> > >> complicated and
> > > illegible
> > > than the judgement of the
>
> > spectator.
> > >
> > > On
> > >> 07-Sep-10, at 6:32
> > > PM, SJabbar
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > Did they?  Or did they do what most
> > >> people do,
> make
> > > their peace
> > with
> > >> the new
> > >> dispensation and get on
> with
> > >> life.
> > >>
> > >> The
> >
> > > point is to understand how it is
> that a phenomena like 60,000
> > >>
> > >>
> > young
> > > men
> > >> applying
> for 3,000 jobs can happen in the midst of what
> > people
> > >>
> > > are
> >
> >> describing as a revolution. Can it be that they don't
> > see the J&K
> >
> >>
> > >>
> > > Police as
> > >> an abhorrent force?  Can it be that
> > they
> are the relatives of
> > > men
> > >>
> > >> who are
> > >> already in the
> JKP?
> > Can it be that they don't subscribe
> > > to
> > >> azadi?
> > >> And
> how
> > >> do
> > the families of tens of thousands of men who are
> > > in
>
> > >> the JKP and
> > >>
> > JAKLI see
> > >> their kin?
> > >>
> > >> Another
> puzzling matter:
> > > we speak
> > >>
> > of the AFSPA and its revocation
> >
> >> but the
> > >> JKP is not protected
> > > by
> > the Act.
> > >> And one
> more thing: the army, that
> > >> has
> > >> been
> > responsible
> > > for
> the worst
> > >> human rights abuses in the last 2
> > >>
> > decades is
> >
> >> not
> > > targeted by the
> > >> stone-pelters.  They continue
> > their
> work of
> > >>
> > > patrolling
> > >> and cordon &
> > >> search operations
> as
> > if they live on another
> > > planet.
> > >> The target
> > >> is
> >
> >> always the
> > JKP.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 07/09/10 6:06 PM,
> > >
> "Jeebesh" <jeebesh at sarai.net>
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> agreed. but how
> come they all
> > > became unquestionable
> > nationalists
> > >>
> > >>>
> after
> > >>>
> > >> 1947?
> > >>
> > >> On
> > > 07-Sep-10, at
> > 5:41 PM,
> SJabbar wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> You're
> > >> right Jeebesh, and
> > >>>
> > >
>
> > most people who were recruited were
> > >>> absolutely
> > >>>
> > >> loyal
> to the
> >
> > > British
> > >>> Empire and deeply suspicious of the
> Congress.
> > >>> And
> > >>
> > why
> > >>>
> > > just speak of the
> > >>>
> 20th c. ? In 1857 the country was
> > deeply
> > >> divided
> > >>>
> > > and
> very
> > >>> few at the
> > >>> time articulated
> > it as a 'war for
> > >>
>
> > > independence.'  It
> > >>> would be
> > >>> foolish to
> >
> > >>> say
> that those who served
> > > the
> > >> British Empire were closet
> > >>>
> >
> nationalists forced
> > >>> into furthering
> > > their
> > >> careers by
> joining
> > the
> > >>> army or
> > >>> ICS.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On
> >
> >>>
> > > 07/09/10 5:22
> > PM,
> > >> "Jeebesh" <jeebesh at sarai.net> wrote:
>
> > >>>
> > >>>> recruitment
> > >
> > in
> > >>> indian
> > >> subcontinent
> during the ww1 and ww2 for jobs in
> > >>>
> > the
> > >>>>
> > > british
> army
> > >>> was
> > >> very high. what did this say about
> > the
> aspiration
> > >>>
> > > and lives
> > >>>> being
> > >> led
> > >>> at that
> time in
> > the sub continent. do we
> > > even
> > >>> count that number
> >
> >>>>
> > >> today
> > in
> > >>> discussing 20s, 30s, 40s, in
> > > the sub
>
> > >>> continent?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > On
> > >> 07-Sep-10, at
> > >>>> 2:10
> >
> >>> PM, SJabbar
> > > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > But Gowhar, what happens
> >
> >> when a man who hitherto
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > > abhors
> > an
> > >>>>
> institution joins
> > >>>> it? What
> > >> happens to that extreme
> > >
> >
> emotion
> > >>>>
> > >>> when the line is crossed,
> > >>>> when
> > >> the
>
> > >>>>
> > uniform is
> > > donned, when the
> > >>> 'danda'
> > >>>> drops
> firmly into his
> >
> > >> hands?
> > >>>> By your
> > > logic all those who
> joined
> > >>> the force
> > >>>>
> > post-1990 once
> > >> abhorred
> >
> >>>>
> > > the
> > >>>> institution and now have
> > become
> > >>> the
> >
> >>>> oppressors.
> > >> And those
> > > who pelt
> > >>>>
> > stones
> > >>>>
> at the oppressors now want
> > >>> to
> > >>>> join
> > >> the
> > >
> > same
> hated institution only
> > >>>> to become
> > >>>> future oppressors?
> >
> >>>
> >
> > >>
> > > Not
> > >>>> one, not two but 60,000 young men?  You
> may
> > >>>>
> > understand this,
> > > but
> > >> I
> > >>> have to
> > >>>>
> tell you, it's left me
> > totally
> > >>>>
> > > perplexed.
> > >>>>
> >
> >>>>
> > >>>> On
> > >> 07/09/10
> > >>> 1:58
> > PM,
> > >>>> "gowhar
> fazli"
> > > <gowharfazili at yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>>>>> I
> don't
> > >>> like the
> > > heading
> > >>>> "Why Kashmir
> > >>>>> defies
>
> >
> > >> solutions".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It is
> > > in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> these moments that
> > the
> > >>>> real
> > >> desperation and loss
> >
> >>>>>
> > > of self of Kashmiris
> >
> > >>> as a
> > >>>>>> people
> > >>
> becomes
> > >>>> evident. For
> > >>>>>
> > >
> > livelihood they have to
> stoop
> > >>> before the
> > >> same
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >
> >
> institutions
> > >>>>> that torment them or that they abhor
> > >>> for
> >
> >>
> > >
> > obvious
> > >>>> reasons.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> This contradiction
> that runs
> > through
> > > their
> > >>>
> > >> very selves,
> > >>>>>
> >
> >>>> prevents people
> >
> > >>>>>> from acquiring a
> > > full blown
> >
> >>>
> > >> human-hood.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > There should
> > >>>> be no
> guilt
> > > or
> > >>>>>> indignity
> > >> associated
> >
> > >>> with
> >
> >>>>> acquiring of livelihood
> > >>>>
> > > through legitimate
> > >>
> >
> means,
> > >>>>>> but
> > >>> this
> > >>>>> is the case one way or
> > > the
> other,
> >
> > >>>> for most
> > >> people in
> > >>>>>
> > >>> Kashmir.
> >
> >>>>>> The boundaries
> >
> > > between legitimate and
> > >>>>
> > >>
> illegitimate
> > >>>>> are
> > >>>
> > dizzyingly
> > > fuzzy
> > >>>>>>
> because of the manner in which
> > >> the
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> selves are
>
> > >>>
> > > split.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If not for any
> >
> > >>>>>> other but
> for
> > >> the indignities
> > >>>>
> > > involved
> > >>> in
> > >>>>>
> >
> the status quo that Kashmir
> > >> issue
> > >>>>>> should be
> > > resolved
> for
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> good.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- On Tue,
> >
> >> 9/7/10,
> > >
> > SJabbar
> > >>>>>> <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>
> >
> >>>>
> > >>> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > > From: SJabbar
> >
> >>>>>> <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> >
> > >>>>>> Subject:
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >>
> > > [Reader-list] Why Kashmir defies
> >
> > >>>>>> solutions
> > >>>>>>
> To:
> > > "Sarai"
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >
> >>>>>> Date: Tuesday,
> > >>>>>>
> > > September 7,
> > 2010, 10:19
> > >>>
>
> > >> AM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> Printed from
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> > Khaki
> enemy? 60,000
> > >>>>>> Kashmiris
> > >> apply for
> > >>> 3,000
> > >>>>
> >
> police
> > >>>>>
> > > jobs
> > >>>>>> M Saleem Pandit, TNN, Sep
> > >> 7,
> >
> >>>>>>
> > 2010, 01.30am
> > >>>
> > > IST
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> SRINAGAR:
> Despite reports of
> > >>
> > desertions in its
> > > ranks
> > >>>>>
> >
> >>>>>>
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>> threats of
> >
> > >>>> social
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> boycott,
> > > J&K police has emerged as a big
> > >>>
> > draw
> > >>>>>>
> for
> > >>>>>
> > >> young
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > job hunters in
> >
> >
> >>>>>> employment-starved
> > >>> Kashmir. Ignoring
> > >> calls
> > >>>>>>
>
> > > by
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> hardliners to
> > >>>>>> shun the khaki
> >
> >>>>>>
> > >>> force,
> > >>
> > nearly
> > > 60,000 men applied
> > >>>>>>
> for
> > >>>> less than 3,000
> > >>>>>
> > jobs
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>
> > >>
>
> > > J&K police --
> > >>>>>> about 200 applicants
> > for
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> one
> > > constable's
> > >>>
> > >> post.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The
> >
> applications piled up over the last
> > > few
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> >>
> > months,
> > >>>>> about
> > >>>>>> the time when the
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> situation in the
> > Valley
> > >>>
> > >> appeared
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>> be
> spinning out
> > >>>>>
> > > of
> >
> > >>>>>> control with the
> > >> cops
>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>> particularly being
> > >>>>
> > at
> > > the
> > >>>>>>
> receiving end of public
> > >>>>>
> > >> wrath.
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> >>> J&K
> > > police DG Kuldeep
> > >>>> Khoda said
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>
> >
> department
> > >>>>> has
> > >>>>>>
> > > received
> > >>> 58,975
> > >>>>>>
>
> > applications,
> > >>>> against
> > >> 2,786
> > >>>>>>
> > > vacancies
> across the
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>> Valley.
> > >>>>>> "The response
> > >>
> > >
> from
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> (the
> > worst-hit)
> > >>>>>> Srinagar and
> > >>>
> Budgam districts
> > > was
> > >> even
> >
> > >>>>> more
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> heartening," he
> > >>>>>> said.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > "We've
> received
> > >> 2,860 applications, against
> > >>>> 529
> > >>>>> posts
> >
>
> > >>>>>>
> > > in
> > >>>
> > >> Srinagar
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> district,
> while 8053
> > against 283 in
> > >>>>
> > > Budgam," he
> > >>>
> > >>
> said.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Lack
> > of jobs
> > >>>>>> has been a big spur
>
> > > for the
> > >>>>
> > >> protests
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>
> brought thousands
> > > of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> young
> > educated
> > >> men
> on to the
> > >>>>
> > >>> streets.
> > > Official
> > >>>>>
> > estimates
> of
> > >>>>>> the
> > >> number
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>> unemployed
> > > in
>
> >
> > >>> the
> > >>>> Valley stands at 3
> > >> lakhs.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> Khoda told
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > > reporters the
> > >>> department held
> >
> >>>>
> > >> a
> > >>>>>
> > recruitment
> > >>>>>> rally in
> > > Baramulla
>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>> district
> > in July
> > >> and was
> > >>>>
> overwhelmed with
> > > the
> > >>>>> response.
> >
> > >>>>>> "Over
> > >>>
> 8,000
> > >>>>>>
> > >> people
> > >>>>>> turned up
> > > for
> >
> > >>>> 412
> posts despite turmoil in the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >> district,"
> > >>>>>>
>
> >
> > > he
> > >>>>>> said, and added
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> that even
> stone-pelters
> > >>>
> >
> > >> attended
> > > the rally. He said
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>> department
> >
> > >>>> was
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > >
> mulling
> > >>> more on-the-spot recruitment drives
> >
> > >>>>>> across
> >
> >>>>>
> > > the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Valley,
> > >>>
> > particularly
>
> > >>>>>> in Srinagar's downtown area
> > > to end
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > the
>
> > >>>>
> > >>> unrest.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The top cop rubbished
> > >
> reports
> > on desertions
> > >> and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> insubordination. He
> > >
> > claimed
> > >>>>>> no police personnel
> > >>
> had quit since
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > mid-June
> > >>>>>>
> > > when
> > >>>>>
> Kashmir
> > >>>>>> erupted in
> > >> anger
> >
> > >>>>>> against the
> >
> >>>
> > > alleged
> > >>>> staged encounter
> > >>>>>> of
> > three
> > >>
> north
> > >>>>> Kashmir
> > >>>>>>
> > > youth and
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>
> >
> 17-year-old
> > >>>> boy's killing
> > >> in
> > >>>>>> police
> > > action.
> Over 60
> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>> people,
> > >>>>>> including
> > >> women
> >
> >>>>>>
> > >>>> and
> > >
> > children, have
> > >>>>>> died in police
> > >>>
> firing on
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > protesters
> > >>>>>>
> > > since
> > >>>>
> then.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> State
> > >>>>>>
> > government
> > >>> sources
>
> > >> said J&K
> > > CM Omar
> > >>>>> Abdullah,
> > >>>>
> > who
> > >>>>>>
> has called for a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > proactive
> >
> approach including the phased
> > >>>> revocation of
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >
> the
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>> controversial
> > >>>>>> Armed Forces
> Special Forces
> > >
> > Act
> > >>>> to
> > >> deal with
> > >>> street
> >
> >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> protests, has
> > ordered
> > >>>>>>
> > > creation of
> more
> > >> police
> > >>>> jobs to
> > >>> induct
> > youth from
> > >>>>>>
>
> > > the
> > >>>>>> troubled
> > >> areas.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > Meanwhile,
> in
> > >>>> its
> > >>> ongoing
> > > drive to reach out
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> to
> > the
> > >>>>> people,
> > >>>>>> Kashmir
> > > range
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> IGP
> > >>>>
> > Kashmir, S M Sahai,
> > >> attended
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> police-public
> > >>>>> meetings
> > in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>> Ganderbal
> > >>>>
> and
> > >>>>>>
> > >> Budgam
> > > districts.
> > "At
> > >>>>>> Ganderbal
> District Police
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > > Lines,
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>>>
> > >>
> around 300 people
> > >>>>>> including senior
> > >>>>>>
> > > citizens
> >
> and
> > >>> sarpanchs
> > >>>>
> > >> participated,"
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>>>
> police
> > >
> > spokesman
> > >>>>>> said.
> > >>>>>> "Sahai
> > >>>
> > >>
> assured the
> > >>>> people
> > that
> > > police will
> > >>>>> adopt
> >
> >>>>>> maximum
> > >>>
> > >> restraint
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> while
> > >
> dealing
> > >>>> with law and order
> > >>>
> > >>
> > situations."
> >
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> > >>>>>>
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