[Reader-list] Art Exhibition forced to shut down by Govt.

Thu Sep 9 23:30:25 IST 2010

Dear Kshmendra
i always found you witty and clever while responding to different mails, but
my respect for  sharp intelligent reflections was always sincere, but sorry
to say i find your strings not tuned at the moment

better if you explain simply what offended you most, if not for me, but for
the benefit of others..... this is not a court room, there is no judge, and
so let us not play like lawyers ( with due respect to their profession )

regards
and love
is

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Dear Inder
>
> You obviously have no sense of or respect for being truthful about what the
> other person has said or you yourself have said
>
> Kshmendra
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/7/10, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Art Exhibition forced to shut down by Govt.
> To: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 8:20 PM
>
>
> Dear Kshmendra ji
>
> In a sense, you are right, who care about Art, let it go to dogs,
> anyway, if we are actually so insensitive to corruption ( CWG), decay
> of food grains etc,
> how does it matter that art exhibitions are closed for the safety of
> society. ( mostly middle class TV soap serial watchers) ,
>
> we should actually close down all the Art institutions in India and
> hand over to religious preachers or some corporate houses which can
> give them some money for buying properties abroad.
>
> we have perhaps lost our aesthetic sense, i am wondering even why i
> posted it on the list. We have lot of anger against Hussain paintings,
> but none against poor people who live under bridges. We have no desire
> to engage our thinking with our 40 percent below poverty line
> population. "We are hallow men, we are shallow men, head piece filled
> with straw."
>
> This country has no desire to love its own heritage ( khajuraho etc ),
> its own culture, its own text on free flight ( as all ancient text ),
> but what we love is territory, flag,  army and tight disciplined
> bureaucracy.
>
> We actually love ladoos, and grow pot belied, but desire for lean
> blonde girls for sexual fantasy , but dont yearn to liberate ...
>
> Mera Bharat Mahaan
>
> love
> is
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kshmendra2005@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Inder
> >
> > It would have been appreciable if you had accepted that there is no
> reference to Govt in the report and you made a mistake.
> >
> > The 'centre' referred to is the Nehru Centre.
> >
> > On the face of it, as per mentioned details, I personally see no great
> reason justifying the action taken but it would be understandable if Nehru
> Centre being conscious of the fragile 'communal' environment did not want to
> risk violence and maybe even consulted the "Govt" before taking the action
> though that is not alluded to. That is sensible.
> >
> > Your comment about "Govt directly playing in the hands of saffron
> brigade" would have been worthwhile if you did not confine it to
> "saffron". In its current form it becomes worthless one-sided propaganda.
> >
> > If you put great value of your own imagination as compared to
> "unimaginative people " running the country, then please step forward and
> give some concrete and imaginative proposals instead of these whines about
> "impotency" and "mint money from CWG" and "decaying institutions" and
> "decaying food grains"
> >
> > You can see your "imaginative" proposals for rectifying things addressed
> by your own participation in the political processes or interventions
> through RTI and Courts of Law.
> >
> > Kshmendra
> >
> > PS. Do you have anything other than whines?
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indersalim@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indersalim@gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Art Exhibition forced to shut down by Govt.
> > To: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reader-list@sarai.net>
> >
> > Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 3:35 PM
> >
> > Thanks dear Kshmendra
> >
> > "This is the
> > first time the centre has abruptly stopped an art show."
> >
> >
> > well, i too would not like to see Govt directly playing in the hands
> > of saffron brigade
> > but that is unlikely. given the 'napusukta' ( impotency ) of our
> > politicians who only think about how to mint money from things like
> > CWG
> >
> > This is a country run by most unimaginative people, i am not mincing
> words
> > it is not only ' aesthetic' sector which is suffering, all other
> > sensibile institutions are decaying, akin to food grains storage. sad
> >
> > best
> > is
> >
> >
> > On 9/6/10, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kshmendra2005@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nowhere does it say that the Govt played any part.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 9/5/10, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indersalim@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indersalim@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Subject: [Reader-list] Art Exhibition forced to shut down by Govt.
> > > To: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reader-list@sarai.net>
> >
> > > Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 10:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Provocative-work-forces-gallery-to-call-off-art-show/articleshow/6494012.cms
> > > --
> > > MUMBAI: Two "provocative" paintings by an Aurangabad-based artist
> > > forced the Nehru Centre at Worli in Mumbai to discontinue the
> > > exhibition on Saturday, after running it for three days. This is the
> > > first time the centre has abruptly stopped an art show.
> > >
> > > Artist Nandkumar Jogdand (43) has lodged a complaint with the Worli
> > > police. He said this was a violation of his right to express himself,
> > > and that the trust-owned Nehru Centre had succumbed to pressure from a
> > > saffron group, a claim denied by the management. Assistant director of
> > > the Nehru Centre Art Gallery Nina Rege said the exhibits "were in bad
> > > taste and created controversy".
> > >
> > > The two paintings in question are titled 'Gandhi (After Pune Karar)'
> > > and 'Blind Faith'. The former depicts a dhoti clad Mahatma Gandhi
> > > striking a victim with a Trishul. The artist said he got the
> > > inspiration for this piece after reading the 'Pune Karar' or the Pune
> > > Pact, which happened after an agreement between Gandhi and Dr
> > > Babasaheb Ambedkar. In the second painting, 'Blind Faith', a nude
> > > Hindu goddess is depicted in a provocative position.
> > >
> > > "When the gallery took objection to my exhibits, I was prepared to
> > > remove 'Blind Faith' but not 'Gandhi (After Pune Karar)'," said
> > > Nandkumar, adding that the latter is based on a type of puja prevalent
> > > in parts of Karnataka, and that the woman was not a goddess.
> > >
> > > The exhibition was allowed from September 1 to 3 without any
> > > controversy. But after complaints from an "anonymous caller", Nehru
> > > Centre on Saturday issued a notification to Nandkumar. "The paintings
> > > were of a nature that could give rise to controversy leading to
> > > undesirable situation," read the letter. "Therefore, in the light on
> > > Rule no. 3 under Conduct of Nehru Centre's Art Gallery Rules and
> > > Regulations, we hereby direct you to remove these two paintings and
> > > continue with your exhibition with the remaining paintings. If you do
> > > not remove these paintings, the art gallery will be closed for public
> > > viewing forthwith," said Rege in the letter.
> > >
> > > When asked why it took the management three days to discontinue the
> > > exhibition, Rege said: "The exhibition began only on September 1 as
> > > Nandkumar put up his art work by late evening on August 31. At the
> > > time, I was visiting a sick colleague and returned to work on
> > > September 2. I then got a call from a person who said the exhibits
> > > were objectionable. I took a round of the gallery and found 'Blind
> > > Faith' to be controversial."
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, Nandkumar has sought police protection and has demanded
> > > that the exhibition should run its course till September 6.
> > >
> > > Read more: 'Provocative' work forces gallery to call off art show -
> > > Mumbai - City - The Times of India
> > >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Provocative-work-forces-gallery-to-call-off-art-show/articleshow/6494012.cms#ixzz0yfraM43q
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