[Reader-list] Once dead can born somewhere in some form(atma)

Sun Sep 19 15:40:52 IST 2010

Anupam,

       That's very smart answer and very
mystical.  Anyway By quoting the name Buddha you mean the founder of
Buddhism I suppose. Before enlightenment and become Buddha, he is a HINDU
Kshatriya prince.  He had parents, wife and a child and then people. But
"Buddha" is so sensitive to escape from his responsibilities to find
a permanent solution to old and death. 

How he escaped from the responsibilities?

    1. He should perform the "tarpana or sradha
kriyas" to his parents so that they can
reach the "punya
lokas".  But he didn't.

    2. The four Asramas or orders of life are 
 "Brahmacharya(unmarried)","Grihastha(married)",
"Vanaprastha(old)" 
 and "Sannyasa(reluctant about
everything except moksha)".  Anyone can attain    the moksha (free from all miseries or troubles) after
passing through these phases of life in a chain of birth and death.   But "Buddha" left (not like the words
exploited, cheated ...) his wife in middle and preferred sannyasa.

    3. Child may not be orphan but he also fell in the trap and
followed Buddhism there by turning down the hopes of
mother and grandparents and the people.

    4.  Anybody can become a ruler but every ruler can't be
a king.  Only Kshatriya can be chosen as kings because they will never turn their
back till the end. It is a Kshatriya duty to protect the people living in
the kingdom.  He is responsible 
 for all the mistakes (his own or
people).  So however good he was a king must 
 experience (visit) the NARAK after
the death whether it is natural or war based. Based on sin and virtue one can secure a
place in SWARG. Spending time in either swarg or narak (not just a king but anybody)
can attain a moksha after several lives  
 based on their karma (sin or
virtue). Now as a prince 

        it’s "Buddha" duty to know
the problems of the people and resolving them. There is absolutely nothing wrong in it. But
illness, old, and death are the forms of life not just for humans but any living being. 
Being a prince he can make a poor into rich, he can give a better treatment to the
illness.  It is the duty of the king.  Instead of that the prince ran-out of life and ruined everything. 

P: S: - There are not so many castes and religions exist at that time when
"Buddha" lived. Whatever "Buddha" found is very much there in Hindu religion.  The enlightenment didn't meat the eradication of old and death.    

Regards, 

Dhatri.

--- On Sun, 9/19/10, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:

From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city Critiques & Collaborations
To: "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com>, "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 1:28 PM

Dear Dhatri,

i am very small fry here dhatri. but even a certain individual who we refer to buddha was silent when asked about a way. but i can give you a clue though: how about looking inwards.i hope it helps. i hope i am not trying to sound very mystical :P

Thanks anupam

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Anupam Chakravarhy,

      I posted what I know without exaggeration and there is nothing wrong in it about culture,religion,territory by looking at the provocative messages on this list.  Your view about me is totally baseless because it is made up with assumptions and guesses.   If you know much about religion not just hinduism etc., then please go ahead and write your postings.  If everybody took my messages so light then why should you worry so much and feel it so depth?  If anybody feel that somebody is going in wrong way then they should show the right way not just saying "this is not the way".

Regards,

Dhatri.

--- On Sun, 9/19/10, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:

From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city Critiques & Collaborations

To: "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com>, "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>

Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 12:57 PM

Dear Dhatri,

I sincerely hope that you understand the word patience, peace first before you start advising others. I did not find any one else' post disturbing as yours because you were trying desperately to provoke. I guess most of the readers do not even take you seriously.

Thanks Anupam

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:32 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Anupam,

It is good to know that you are reading messages.  But only my

messages

are so disturbing?  or the content as a whole and postings

of

this forum are disturbing?.  I didn’t say I knew everything about anything

but

I posted criticism against sarcastic nature of the messages but never

abused. 

If you know anything better then you are open to post about

it

with a signature "BEST ANUPAM" thereby giving your contribution to

INDIA, 

instead

of saying ‘SORRY’ by keeping in view of I quote 

“>

reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city Critiques &

Collaborations”.

This

forum has already become a fish market with anti-Indian,

Anti-national,

anti-cultural, anti-democratic, anti-secular, anti-patriotic

Anti-Hindu postings.

If nobody feel they are rubbish then how can my

messages

are so rubbish and disturbing?   I request you don’t assume 

 Anything. Under my freedom of speech,

rights etc., and your opinion

linked

to it with condemnation I will not approach any court, human

right

organization like amnesty etc., like most of the country men

doing

not just in one area in the name of this and that now a days.

I

request you to teach PATIENCE to the population so that everybody

can

live in peace not approaching courts, human rights etc., under

this

n that for every reason.

ANYWAY

I NOTICED YOU POINT "NOT THIS WAY”.

Regards,

Dhatri.

--- On Tue, 9/14/10, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:

From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Reader-list] 3 IN 1 FESTIVAL SEASON

To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>

Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 7:00 PM

dear we wi,

i have been reading your replies on this forum. they are extremely

disturbing and your questions provoke me to say something really nasty to

you. however, over the time, i have learnt the ways of debating or

discussing anything on this forum. please do not turn this forum into a

market place.

what i can sense from your replies is that you are some insecure zealot who

is out here to post rubbish. i have doubts about your knowledge or hinduism

or for that matter anything that you can contribute to this forum. i think

you have not understood anything about any religion, and it is your

impatience for not being the receptacle to a more freer form of knowledge

about self and god, which making you post such things. i am sorry that i am

assuming things on your behalf. i am not permitted to do so as every one has

the right to express but i am sure not this way.

thanks Anupam

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