[Reader-list] Second Exodus from Kashmir-now, it is Muslims(IANS)

Fri Sep 24 10:03:12 IST 2010

Pervez ,

Two pints I would like to make

1. Muslim migrants , which already exist like hindus and sikhs already
enjoy whatever reservations in educational institutions are there for
migrants . The reservations are not specifically for any particular
caste or religion .  Please check the facts , there are many muslim
migrants from Kashmir who claim these reservations and whatever few
thousand Govt gives every month.

2. In case of Gujarat , in the recent Katthel elections , where the
muslims are in majority , people elected BJP for their good
governance.

Hope this answers your pun.

Regards

Pawan Durani

On 9/23/10, Shahnawaz Khan <fsrnkashmir at gmail.com> wrote:
> How many thousand crores are needed now.
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> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Parvaiz Bukhari
> <parvaizbukhari at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> so, should we expect the government to build hutmernts for Muslim migrants
>> too? Gujarat perhaps would be a good place for them to go to.  would there
>> be another layer of reservations in professional colleges for Muslim
>> migrants too? which side of the political spectrum in India will lap the
>> new
>> migrants up?
>>
>> Any comments? Anybody including Alok himself?
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>> On 23 September 2010 14:17, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Unlike Shuddha I have comments or claims to make
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>> http://sify.com/news/second-exodus-from-kashmir-now-it-s-the-muslims-news-national-kjxj4cgfdah.html
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>> http://sify.com/news/second-exodus-from-kashmir-now-it-s-the-muslims-news-national-kjxj4cgfdah.html
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>> > Jammu: Reminiscent of the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from the valley in
>> the
>> > early 1990s, Muslims caught this time between stone-throwers and
>> > security
>> > forces are moving from Srinagar to Jammu in the dark of the night.
>> >
>> > 'I didn't inform anyone in the neighbourhood where I was headed,' Abid
>> > Ahmad, who left Srinagar and came here with his family a week ago, told
>> > IANS
>> > on the condition that his locality be not disclosed as it could spell
>> > trouble whenever he returned.
>> >
>> >
>> > Many like Ahmad are fleeing the strife-torn Kashmir Valley - where
>> violent
>> > protests and clashes have left over 100 dead in the past three months -
>> to
>> > escape the stones hurled by mobs and the retaliatory guns of security
>> > forces. And they usually undertake their journey to Jammu, 294 km south,
>> > between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m.
>> >
>> >
>> > 'It's the time when stone-throwers are resting and the policemen are
>> > busy
>> > warming themselves around bonfires on roadsides,' said Ahmad, who
>> > started
>> > his journey from Sringar along with his family at 3 a.m.
>> >
>> >
>> > While Kashmir is a Muslim-majority area, Jammu is dominated by Hindus.
>> >
>> >
>> > Over 100 families, according to unofficial estimates, might have reached
>> > Jammu post-Eid (Sep 11), when mobs went on the rampage in Srinagar,
>> burning
>> > government offices after prayers. And the trend is continuing.
>> >
>> >
>> > Because of this, Jammu, the state's winter capital, is witnessing quite
>> > a
>> > buzz in its hotels, resthouses and rented accommodations much ahead of
>> the
>> > bi-annual shift in the seat of the government.
>> >
>> >
>> > Said Ramprakash Sharma, a property dealer: 'In the past week, I've
>> arranged
>> > rented accommodation for 15 Kashmiri families. This number is unusually
>> > high...Earlier Kashmiris used to come for winter months only.'
>> >
>> >
>> > The valley has been seeing an unending cycle of violence since June 11,
>> > where hurling of stones shows the anger of youth, and the police react
>> with
>> > bullets.
>> >
>> >
>> > Apart from claiming the lives of over 100 civilians, the violence has
>> left
>> > a
>> > large number wounded. Life there has come to a standstill, with shops,
>> > schools, banks and other institutions closed due to separatist-sponsored
>> > shutdowns and the curfew imposed by authorities in an attempt to
>> > maintain
>> > calm.
>> >
>> >
>> > *Sharing their miseries, the migrants tell their Kashmiri Hindu friends,
>> > who
>> > had migrated to Jammu 20 years ago: 'Now we know why the Pandits fled
>> > and
>> > that too in the darkness of night.' *
>> >
>> >
>> > Over 300,000 Kashmiri Pandits living in the valley migrated when
>> > violence
>> > erupted there in 1990. Most of them came to Jammu and were housed by the
>> > government in various camps on the edges of the city. They had to
>> initially
>> > live in tents until the authorities built one-room tenements for them.
>> >
>> >
>> > The recent migrants from the valley curse everyone responsible for
>> turning
>> > their lives into a nightmare -- the stone-throwers, separatists,
>> policemen
>> > and the 'non-existing' government.
>> >
>> >
>> > 'I had to face stone-throwers almost every day...they would physically
>> > assault me. And the policemen would threaten me for driving during
>> curfew,'
>> > said Mohammad Sultan, a driver with a government department who has
>> shifted
>> > his family here.
>> >
>> >
>> > But he will return to the valley for his job.
>> >
>> >
>> > 'They all are looking after their (own) interests...not knowing the pain
>> of
>> > the common people,' Sultan rued.
>> >
>> >
>> > But it's not that easy in Jammu either. Here they face many questions --
>> > hotels ask for identity cards, and policemen visit them to verify all
>> sorts
>> > of details. And they are scared of disclosing too much to the police,
>> > fearing some might give out their details to the stone throwers back
>> home.
>> >
>> >
>> > Asked if the government was doing anything, a young girl said: 'Which
>> > government are you talking about? (Hardline separatist leader) Syed Ali
>> > Geelani runs the government of stone-throwers, who stone people...and
>> > the
>> > Omar Adullah government is non-existent.'
>> >
>> >
>> > The girl, now showing signs of depression, narrated how her car was
>> stoned
>> > and the policemen fled the scene in a locality in downtown Srinagar.
>> >
>> >
>> > A 39-member all-party delegation led by union Home Minister P.
>> Chidambaram
>> > visited Jammu and Kashmir for two days to get a sense of the ground
>> > situation before deciding on steps to defuse tensions.
>> >
>> >
>> > But its visit also caused problems for people here Tuesday. 'We were
>> > checked
>> > at every place and asked not to venture out because the delegation was
>> > here,' said a harassed Kashmir University professor who arrived here
>> > Monday.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Most of those from the valley say they are just waiting to undertake the
>> > journey back home in daylight -- when stone-throwers retreat and curfew
>> is
>> > lifted.
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rashneek Kher
>> > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
>> > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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