[Reader-list] THROW OUT ANTI NATIONAL ELEMENT

[Rakesh Iyer]

Dear Malik jee

Again a wrong understanding of what I said.

I clearly stated that the problem is not of unfurling the flag, but in its
name trying to create a machismo of show-down as if it's going to be a big
thing, as well as trying to generate unrest. If the idea is to go about
abusing the separatists and then create hungama, I am not for it, simply
because I don't think if I disagree with your views, I should go around
abusing you. Otherwise we should start that with this forum itself.

By the way it's two democratically elected govts. (the Central govt and the
State govt) which have asked for the unfurling not to be done keeping in
mind the tense situation in Kashmir. So the separatists are not in power.

Comparisons with Banda case instead make you seem to be not having ability
to understand things. Banda or whatever be the name, rapists deserve to be
in jail for life terms.

Rakesh



On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 6:47 AM, A.K. Malik <akmalik45 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>         Whatever be the motive, if in a free democratic country someone
> wants
> to unfurl the national flag at any desired place,the fellow should be put
> behind
> bars. What a splendid argument. Are we being controlled by a democratically
> elected state and central govt or by the Separatists? Please also read the
> Supreme Court remarks on rehabilitation of Kashmiri Pandits in the
> valley(Only a
> lip service by the state govt backed by the most spineless central govt in
> the
> history of our democracy). Rakesh's arguments seem to be akin to Banda-rape
> case
> in UP--solve the problem by putting the complaintant into the jail.Jai ho.
> Regards,
>
>  (A.K.MALIK)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> To: Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> Cc: sarai-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 2:41:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] THROW OUT ANTI NATIONAL ELEMENT
>
> Somewhere in Gujarat in 2002, as the election campaign was going on, people
> were equating Hindutva with patriotism, first saying Vande Mataram and then
> saying Jai Shree Ram, as if both are the notions of patriotism. Shouldn't
> we
> be ashamed about it?
>
> Every event has a context. If in the name of raising the national flag, the
> idea is to announce slogans which create riots, then who is being
> anti-national? And by the way, by holding Kashmir ransom to India using a
> huge army and a gang of police officers and paramilitary forces, there's no
> way the cause of the Indian nation is being served. Instead, it's this
> cause
> which is being harmed. The very existence of Kashmir in this way within the
> nation itself demeans the flag and its value. And all those who support it
> or indulge in it, should themselves be put behind bars for a change.
>
> What do people on this forum think?
>
> Rakesh
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
> > What is going on in Kashmir? CM of J&K openly appealing to stop flag
> > hoisting in Srinagar. Is central government listening or sleeping?
> >  However,
> > central government since long sleeping by allowing huge corruptions of
> CWG,
> > 2G spectrum and more, so nothing new in it.
> >
> >
> >
> > By not allowing the democratic right of flag hoisting in any part of
> India
> > is an insult to nation and government must throw out these antinational
> > element out of the country.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bipin Trivedi
> >
> >
> >
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