[Reader-list] Re: Madarsa's of Delhi, A Study about the instiutes of Taliban.

[Yousuf]

Dear Salahuddin
I am a bit perturbed by your repeated use of the word
“taliban” to refer to the students of the madrasas. If
you are using the word sarcastically, you don’t have
to hammer it so much, especially at a forum like
Sarai. Of course you have been a student of Arabic and
would know it better, but as far as I know, the
generally acceptable word is ‘talaba’ or ‘tolaba’ for
students. Although taliban is not incorrect, since it
is the plural of talib (seeker), but we all know the
present day connotation of this word. And I don’t
think even the Madrasa folks themselves use this word
in south Asia. (I was especially amused at one of your
typo spellings: tailbans!)

For your information, a lot of work has been, or is
being done on the Indian Madrasas. I would especially
recommend you to interact with a scholar friend Yogi
Sikand who must not have missed visiting a single
Madrasa in India, and is writing a book on it. Also,
my friends Amirullah Khan and Zafar Anjum have
compiled and presented an exhaustive report on Indian
Madrasas recently. (Zafar: zafaranjum at hotmail.com,
Yogi Sikand: ysikand at yahoo.com). Some people are even
doing documentary films on the subject. 
Good luck on the project.

Yousuf Saeed

--- sallykenin at yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi and Hello dear friends,
>  I am a new and proud member of this prestigious
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> 
>    My name is ………………Salahuddin. 
>    I have been  working  as freelance journalist  in
> New Delhi, India, 
>   
>  Presently working on a research proposal supported
> by
>  Sarai, which is about the  Madarsa’s of Delhi. The
> name of the proposal is  Delhi Ke Madarson  Ki  Ek
> Jhalak[ a glimps of Delhi’s Madarsas].
> 
>  I am a graduate in Arabic literature and there
> after
> have completed my masters in Mass communication from
> 
> MCRC Jamia, New Delhi 25.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> DELHI KE MADARSON KI EK JHALK.
> As the name suggest the research is ;basically,
> about
> the Madarsas of Delhi, Madarsa is an Arabic world
> which  means school.  They are generally  minority
> institute where religious education is provided. The
> students of  these institute are generally called
> Taliban.  Madarasa allover the subcontinent are
> functioning almost the same way, so discovery about
> Delhi Madarsas will present a broad picture of these
> particular minority institute spread all over the
> country, but we will mainly focus on Delhi. In
> Indian
> context its really interesting to know that Delhi
> was
> the first place where a Madarsa took place first
> time
> in Sultanait dynasty.
>  
> After the 11 September attack on Twins tower in the
> U.S.A.  the discussions and dialogue about terrorism
> Taliban, fundamentalism and Madarsas are  getting
> more
> and more  space day by day among the world
> community,
> there are many notions about these religious
> institutes.
> In India there are three common school of thought
> about these institutes, one is totally against of
> these institutes, and says there is no use of these 
> Madarsas in the modern society, the other group says
> no, they are useful but need to be reformed,  but
> the
> last group of Ulamas and Maulana’s  consider any
> kind
> intervention in Madarsas unnecessary  and reject any
> kind of modernizations of Madarsas .
> Apart from these discourses there r so many other
> things related to madarsas which need to be come out
> openly before the common people.
> 
> 
> 
>  All over the subcontinent Muslims  are very much
> influence by the Madarsa culture ,weather
> consciously
> our unconsciously, but most of them are  also
> actually
> unaware of the whole Madarsa business.
>   
> 
>   Now there are so many things to be discovered
> like, 
>  What is  teaching methods of Madarsa education? Who
> are the student[ Talibans]?What they gain from 
> Madasas? Highlights of  their particular
> culture[Madarsa culture?] how they live and what are
> the restriction impose on the Taliban? How  are 
> these
> talibans?  
> 
> 
> How they function? What is the purpose of these
> institutes? Weather they contribute any thing to the
> modern culture and life?
> There is growing concern among the Malouna and
> Muslim
> community  and they feel afraid of these day today
> developments regarding there religious intitutes.
>  We all know what is happening around the world 
> today
> regarding Madarsa, Islam and fundamentalism, in this
> scenario research about Madarsas is  really full of
> interest.  
> 
> 
> 
> These and these kind of many other questions will be
> explored through our research. .
> To accomplish our research we have to visit the
> Madras’s again and again and talk widely to the
> people
> around, students [Tailbanes] teachers, and the
> principal of the various Madras’s situated all over
> the Delhi.  Apart from this we have to interview the
> people of different organization who have already
> done
> lots of work in Madras’s, and have done their own
> services etc.  
> 
> In this regard we have been visiting the famous and
> large Madras’s of Delhi for last two weeks and have
> gathered lots of information which has its own
> dimensions, we have also met few scholars who have
> done lots of work to reform Madras’s education and
> few
> of those who are totally against of any reform.
> 
> But all this is not enough .We have to do a lot to
> collect comprehensive information and for that lots
> of
> time is required, how they live and how they behave?
> what is their living stander and discipline
> standers? 
> These are few important aspects  for which we have
> to
> be there for  some time to observe the reality.
> Right
> now instead of visiting the Madarsas we are
> concentrating on  the literature of Madarsa history
> and its ethos.
> 
>  
> When Madarsas  are full of students [Talibans] 
> teachers [molavyees and maolanas] then it creates
> totally different atmosphere, which will be good to
> click their pictures  too, so day by day we  are our
> level best to get all kind material which could
> provide a good and well information about the
> Madarsas.
> 
> 
> No doubt till now whatever we have done  has been
> successful and there is so much  to discover ahead
> so
> we will keep that process up an what ever we will
> get
> keep u mailing with the progress report .
>  I request to my dear friends that if u have any
> query, doubt , or confusion  please ask me, I will 
> try to come with the requirement ,at the same time 
> I
> request u please let me know if any of u have any
> information or any thing u can contribute  to the
> research. 
>  
> All my friend are invited  for open discussion  on
> the
> same topic too.
> 
> 
>  Thanks                                          
> 
>   Salahuddin
> 


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