[Reader-list] 6 Questions for Vedavati

[Manosh Chowdhury]

Thanks Khadeeja, 
 
"And friends, Muslims in India can be represented beyond 'Kababs', 'three Khans' and one Tennis player". 
 
The statement is self evident about how liberalism could reduce its subjects. I almost started forgetting Ms. Jogi after reading six questions. However, by liberalism, roughly I indend to conceive a comprehensive package of what is propagated as secularism , democracy [that is, electoral authentication of opression in many regions including Northeastern ones, with significant rotation - when and where it was found to be necessary - including Punjab], womens' right [as it was discovered all over the world since Laura Bush had emancipated Afghan women] and the relish of Bollywood cult along with the hype of consumerism. I am not much kind of a good subscriber of "freedom of _expression" as such. And I feel this is being ridiculous. I hope that sometimes our privileged friends would really understand that the responsibility is far beyond that of just criticizing BJP and remain apart. 
 
Best 
manosh                
  

khadeeja arif <khadeejaarif1 at rediffmail.com> wrote:

Yeh jogi jogi kaun hai:) Bhai kuch bolo..itne log react kar rahe hain....

Anyways, I dont have a problem with  whatever Ms jogi has written on the list. We all have freedom to express our views without being 'politically correct' always... Unfortunately, the statement has gained many responses without it actually making a subtantial argument in itself . I was not shocked to read Ms Jogi's statement because it does not say anything novel... I am sure all of us faces such biases all the time .. 

My only suggestion to Ms Jogi is that 'Packing THEM off to Pakistan" is not an interesting idea.. think of something interesting...:) After all, Pakistan is not that far from India....

And friends, Muslims in India can be represented beyond 'Kababs', 'three Khans' and one Tennis player ... 

So guys chill and dont give so much bhav to Ms Jogi's statement... Must be feeling on top of the world...
Cheers
K

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 Rahul Asthana wrote :


>Questions on a better line would be
>1)Why is it not the whole country's responsibility
>that Muslims have come to be represented by
>organizations like AIMPLB? Historically it was
>congress who sought the alliance of hardline muslim
>parties at the time of partition.
>2)Now since the issue of UCC has been hijacked by the
>likes of RSS and BJP(because of the communal politics
>of Congress,in my opinion) who talk of Hindu
>Nationalism, are the muslims to be blamed for feeling
>like playing into their hands  if they concede to this
>demand?
>3)Are the muslims a monolithic entity so that they can
>be collectively blamed for Muslim personal law? Can
>the same criteria be applied on every other citizen
>for every other law?
>
>Finally, this is notwithstanding the importance of the
>debate that should take place on how and why all the
>muslims can be represented by archaic and undemocratic
>organizations like the MPLB.Even going ahead with the
>existing laws but having their interpretation done in
>regular courts by scholars of Islamic law, would be a
>great step ahead.
>
>--- Prashant Pandey <prashantpandey10 at rediffmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > Vedavati... please answer these questions
> >
> > 1. If muslims leave India, will you win cricket&
> > tennis matches for us ?
> >
> > 2. Do you want to open a small business or grab your
> > muslims neighbours property ?
> >
> > 3. Will you pay for my air fare(economy class only)
> > to pakistan or any arab country as then I will have
> > to go there to take my Music classes twice every
> > week ?
> >
> > 4. Can you make good kebabs ?( I am veggi... but i
> > am just asking)
> >
> > 5. Are you planning to replace the 3 khans single
> > handedly at the box office ? you are not a frustated
> > bollywood struggler are you ?
> >
> > 6. Do you think Gujrati Hindus  only play dandiya
> > and are as peaceful as the taliban ?
> >
> > please live a simple life... cheer up and dont worry
> > about maintaining discipline in our country.
> >
> > Prashant
> >
> > guys i am back on the reader list after a month long
> > illness and bad health...I didnt feel like replying
> > but Mr. Jogi's mail was too forceful. I almost
> > forgot to chill.
> >  Now my breath is coming back...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 Vedavati Jogi wrote :
> > >demonstrations will not serve any purpose, muslims
> > are not accepting common civil code under the
> > pretext of 'secularism, pluralism' etc.etc. first
> > ask them to accept the law of the land or else pack
> > them off to pakistan or any arab country.
> > >
> > >> From: abshi at vsnl.com
> > >>To: reader-list at sarai.net
> > >>Subject: [Reader-list] WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS
> > OF INDIAN MUSLIM WOMEN??
> > >>Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:22:08 +0200
> > >>
> > >>INVITATION
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>July 21, 2005
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>INVITATION
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>July 21, 2005
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>?WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN MUSLIM
> > WOMEN??
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression
> > of Women, Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India
> > Centre For Human Rights, PUKAR (Gender & Space
> > project), Special Cell for Women and Children,
> > Women?s Research and Action Group invite you support
> > and attend a mass demonstration being organized by
> > women?s groups to express our discontent and anger
> > with the rise in strength of extra-judicial forces
> > like the shariah jamaats, as has been evident in the
> > recent Imrana case in Muzaffarnagar in U.P, and the
> > increase in the number of anti-women fatwas being
> > issued by local panchayats and self-styled religious
> > leaders.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>In most of these cases not only are the interests
> > and rights of Indian Muslim women being trampled
> > upon but there?s also a total disregard for the rule
> > of law.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>We, a collective of organizations supporting
> > women?s rights, believe that we simply cannot have
> > parallel judicial systems running in this country.
> > We demand that the State play a more active role in
> > protecting and advancing the rights of Indian Muslim
> > women.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>The demonstration will be on Saturday, July 23,
> > 2005. It will start at 2.30 pm at Nagpada junction
> > (near Sagar Hotel/Nagpada police station) and go via
> > the JJ Hospital junction down Mohammed Ali Road and
> > end at Azad Maidan.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanking you
> > >>
> > >>Yours sincerely,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression
> > of Women, Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India
> > Centre For Human Rights, PUKAR (Gender & Space
> > project), Special Cell for Women and Children,
> > Women?s Research and Action Group
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>For further information, contact:
> > >>
> > >>* Awaaz-e-Niswaan: 9819106124 (Farhat and Smita)
> > >>
> > >>* Women?s Research & Action Group: 9833072690
> > (Noorjahan and Shabana)
> > >>
> > >>* Forum Against Oppression of Women: 9820833422
> > (Sandhya Gokhale)
> > >>
> > >>* India Centre for Human Rights & Law Network:
> > 9820022614 (Chetna Birje)
> > >>
> > >>* PUKAR Gender & Space Project: 9820290402
> > (Sameera Khan)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression
> > of Women, Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India
> > Centre For Human Rights, PUKAR (Gender & Space
> > project), Special Cell for Women and Children,
> > Women?s Research and Action Group invite you support
> > and attend a mass demonstration being organized by
> > women?s groups to express our discontent and anger
> > with the rise in strength of extra-judicial forces
> > like the shariah jamaats, as has been evident in the
> > recent Imrana case in Muzaffarnagar in U.P, and the
> > increase in the number of anti-women fatwas being
> > issued by local panchayats and self-styled religious
> > leaders.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>In most of these cases not only are the interests
> > and rights of Indian Muslim women being trampled
> > upon but there?s also a total disregard for the rule
> > of law.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>We, a collective of organizations supporting
> > women?s rights, believe that we simply cannot have
> > parallel judicial systems running in this country.
> > We demand that the State play a more active role in
> > protecting and advancing the rights of Indian Muslim
> > women.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>The demonstration will be on Saturday, July 23,
> > 2005. It will start at 2.30 pm at Nagpada junction
> > (near Sagar Hotel/Nagpada police station) and go via
> > the JJ Hospital junction down Mohammed Ali Road and
> > end at Azad Maidan.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanking you
> > >>
> > >>Yours sincerely,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression
> > of Women, Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India
> > Centre For Human Rights, PUKAR (Gender & Space
> > project), Special Cell for Women and Children,
> > Women?s Research and Action Group
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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