[Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister

Vedavati Jogi vrjogi at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 12 16:39:00 IST 2006 

dear rahima,

i don't hate you, i am a hindu, you are a muslim still we are sisters.

i hate pseudo secularists & our politicians,

they are creating gulf between you & me.


vedavati


>From: "Raheema Begum" <theunderscoredhood at gmail.com>
>To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony 
>activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:40 +0530
>
>I'm not aggressive
>
>my view-point is not heard
>
>I have an axe to grind
>
>I'm not allowed to articulate what I feel
>
>I believe in Allah
>
>I dont want you to hate me.
>
>just let me be.
>
>I love you.
>
>
>On 12/12/06, Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>yes dear i agree with you fully.
>>
>>hindus partitioned india, poor muslims were forced to loot, kill or throw
>>hindus out of pakistan, rather i would like to say, hindus compelled
>>muslims
>>to indulge in these acts. then kashmir happened, history repeated, hindus
>>very happily became refugees in their own mother land.
>>
>>hindus have always been very aggressive, poor muslims were forced pull
>>down
>>thousands of temples in medieval india, same thing happened in kashmir.
>>hindus could not understand that ram mandir can be built only in secular
>>muslim countries like pakistan & bangladesh.
>>
>>
>> >From: jumana bandukwala <jumanab12 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> >To: Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
>> >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
>> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
>> >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:39:08 +0000 (GMT)
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >   This so called hindus with terrorist hindutva idealogy trying all
>> >possible way to tear apart the very secular democratic fabric of India
>>and
>> >forced the other minority communities to take up arms against
>> >them.....first the saffron terrorists brigade killed father of the
>>nation,
>> >Gandhiji, strong exponent of secular India, then by taking useless issue
>> >Ram janam bhoomi have have killed thousands of innocent muslims in
>>Gujarat,
>> >UP, Mumbai, Bengal, almost all over India and it is still continue...and
>> >now they are so much radical that they even lynched low caste hindus 
>>dead
>> >on petty issues, sometimes dalits were beaten to death, others they were
>> >set on fire live and the like.
>> >   Now after all this fracas of the so called sefl proclaimed guardian 
>>of
>> >hindu...they are ought to plunge India into darkness of superstitions,
>> >illiteracy, witchcraft, loot, fraud, in otherwords they are heading 
>>India
>> >towards JUNGLE RAAJ.......
>> >
>> >   general public should oppose these demons.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >   one should not equate hindu & muslim terrorism because,
>> >1) most of the times hindu terrorism is the 'reaction'- to muslim t.
>> >2) moreover hindu terrorist will not 'partition' this country. (i hope
>> >every
>> >body remembers 1947)
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: gowhar fazli
>> > >To: Vedavati Jogi
>> > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
>> > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>> > >Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:59:30 -0800 (PST)
>> > >
>> > >Dear Vedavati Jogi I think the problem is precisely
>> > >that the two kinds of terrorism are not spoken about
>> > >equally in the same breath. Both Hindu and Muslim
>> > >fundamentalism are similar except that the
>> > >majoritarian fundamentalism gets mistaken as
>> > >nationalism at times and can even come to power while
>> > >Muslim fundamentalism is terrorism beyond doubt.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--- Vedavati Jogi wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > in india, if you have to prove your secular
>> > > > credentials, you have to curse
>> > > > rss/bjp/vhp, you have to talk about gujrat
>> > > > carnage(?) again & again....and
>> > > > most importantly you have to remain tightlipped as
>> > > > far as muslim terrorism
>> > > > is concerned!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: Britta Ohm
>> > > > >To: Clifton
>> > > > >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal
>> > > > harmony
>> > > > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the
>> > > > chief Minister
>> > > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:06:24 +0100
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Dear Clifton,
>> > > > >no irony here but sincere interest (as I'm not so
>> > > > aware): do you mean
>> > > > >the Kanataka-coalition government only, or does
>> > > > "the role of this
>> > > > >present coalition government in supporting and
>> > > > promoting these
>> > > > >activities of the Sangh Parivar" also refer to the
>> > > > UPA? And if so, are
>> > > > >there examples for this support you could name?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Britta
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Am 02.12.2006 um 15:27 schrieb Clifton:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Friends,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Most of you are aware of the Sangh Parivar's
>> > > > attempts to destroy the
>> > > > > > secular fabric in Karnataka by targeting the
>> > > > Baba-Datta shrine on
>> > > > > > Bababudangiri near Chikmagalur, a shrine that is
>> > > > an example of
>> > > > > > syncretic
>> > > > > > traditions in the state, attracting people of
>> > > > different faiths. You are
>> > > > > > also aware of the role of this present coalition
>> > > > government in
>> > > > > > supporting and promoting these activities of the
>> > > > Sangh Parivar. Now the
>> > > > > > government has given permission to the Sangh
>> > > > Parivar to conduct the
>> > > > > > Shobha Yatra and about 300 activists of the
>> > > > Karnataka Komu Souharda
>> > > > > > Vedike who reached Chikmagalur to protest this
>> > > > have been arrested today
>> > > > > > (02.12.2006).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Karnataka Komu Souharda Vedike, which is a
>> > > > coalition of over 200
>> > > > > > organizations working since 2002 to establish
>> > > > communal harmony and to
>> > > > > > fight against the agenda of communalism in
>> > > > Karnataka, has through the
>> > > > > > years exposed the Sangh Parivar's farcical
>> > > > claims about the shrine,
>> > > > > > thwarted their intentions and successfully
>> > > > countered their agenda
>> > > > > > through its ideology of aggressive secularism.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Sangh Parivar has been targeting the shrine
>> > > > on Bababudangiri with
>> > > > > > the sole intention of destroying this tradition
>> > > > in the name of
>> > > > > > 'liberating' the shrine from Muslims. In order
>> > > > to achieve their narrow
>> > > > > > sectarian goal, they have been creating unwanted
>> > > > disputes, putting up
>> > > > > > historically untenable and legally unsubstantial
>> > > > arguments. Further,
>> > > > > > they have introduced previously non-existent
>> > > > religious practices like
>> > > > > > Datta-Mala Abhiyan, Shobha Yatra and Datta
>> > > > Jayanthi celebrations every
>> > > > > > year in the months of October, November and
>> > > > December. It is obvious
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > their main purpose is neither religion nor faith
>> > > > but to target the
>> > > > > > Muslim community as 'outsiders' who are bent
>> > > > on destroying the
>> > > > >'Hindu'
>> > > > > > tradition and culture.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This year, the BJP has aligned with the Janata
>> > > > Dal (S) to form a
>> > > > > > coalition government which has thus far
>> > > > supported the communal agenda
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > the Sangh Parivar. Clear evidence of this was
>> > > > visible in the first week
>> > > > > > of October during the communal violence in and
>> > > > around Mangalore and in
>> > > > > > Bababudangiri at the time of the Datta Mala
>> > > > Abhiyan. In Bababudangiri,
>> > > > > > the local BJP MLA, C.T. Ravi led the Sangh
>> > > > Parivar activists in
>> > > > > > performing rites in the shrine – in clear
>> > > > violation of the High
>> > > > >Court's
>> > > > > > order.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > By contrast activists of the Komu Souharda
>> > > > Vedike were arrested and
>> > > > > > prevented from peacefully protesting and
>> > > > exposing the communal designs
>> > > > > > of the present Government. This action of the
>> > > > present governement is
>> > > > > > reprehensible and reaffirms the communal
>> > > > credentials of the so –
>> > > > >called
>> > > > > > secular JD(S). We are particularly concerned
>> > > > that this particular
>> > > > > > action
>> > > > > > of arresting secular activists and preventing
>> > > > peaceful protests bodes
>> > > > > > ill for the future of democracy in Karnataka
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > /We request you to write / phone / fax / email
>> > > > the Chief Minister and
>> > > > > > the Home Minister demanding the immediate
>> > > > release of the arrested
>> > > > > > activists. We also hope that you would state in
>> > > > most certain terms your
>> > > > > > unacceptance of such a communal agenda of this
>> > > > government especially
>> > > > > > with regard to Bababudangiri and the recent
>> > > > Mangalore riots. /
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > /Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy/
>> > > > > > /Ph: 2225 3414 / /22253424/
>> > > > > > cm at kar.nic.in /
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > /Home Minister M.P. Prakash
>> > > > > > Ph: 22251798
>> > > > > > Internal Ph: 2092489
>> > > > > > e-mail: homemin at vsb.kar.nic.in
>> > > > /
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