[Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister

Tue Dec 12 21:49:25 IST 2006

is all this a joke ?

On 12/12/06, Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> dear rahima,
>
> i don't hate you, i am a hindu, you are a muslim still we are sisters.
>
> i hate pseudo secularists & our politicians,
>
> they are creating gulf between you & me.
>
>
> vedavati
>
>
> >From: "Raheema Begum" <theunderscoredhood at gmail.com>
> >To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
> >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:40 +0530
> >
> >I'm not aggressive
> >
> >my view-point is not heard
> >
> >I have an axe to grind
> >
> >I'm not allowed to articulate what I feel
> >
> >I believe in Allah
> >
> >I dont want you to hate me.
> >
> >just let me be.
> >
> >I love you.
> >
> >
> >On 12/12/06, Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>yes dear i agree with you fully.
> >>
> >>hindus partitioned india, poor muslims were forced to loot, kill or throw
> >>hindus out of pakistan, rather i would like to say, hindus compelled
> >>muslims
> >>to indulge in these acts. then kashmir happened, history repeated, hindus
> >>very happily became refugees in their own mother land.
> >>
> >>hindus have always been very aggressive, poor muslims were forced pull
> >>down
> >>thousands of temples in medieval india, same thing happened in kashmir.
> >>hindus could not understand that ram mandir can be built only in secular
> >>muslim countries like pakistan & bangladesh.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: jumana bandukwala <jumanab12 at yahoo.co.uk>
> >> >To: Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
> >> >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> >> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
> >> >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
> >> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:39:08 +0000 (GMT)
> >> >
> >> >Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >   This so called hindus with terrorist hindutva idealogy trying all
> >> >possible way to tear apart the very secular democratic fabric of India
> >>and
> >> >forced the other minority communities to take up arms against
> >> >them.....first the saffron terrorists brigade killed father of the
> >>nation,
> >> >Gandhiji, strong exponent of secular India, then by taking useless issue
> >> >Ram janam bhoomi have have killed thousands of innocent muslims in
> >>Gujarat,
> >> >UP, Mumbai, Bengal, almost all over India and it is still continue...and
> >> >now they are so much radical that they even lynched low caste hindus
> >>dead
> >> >on petty issues, sometimes dalits were beaten to death, others they were
> >> >set on fire live and the like.
> >> >   Now after all this fracas of the so called sefl proclaimed guardian
> >>of
> >> >hindu...they are ought to plunge India into darkness of superstitions,
> >> >illiteracy, witchcraft, loot, fraud, in otherwords they are heading
> >>India
> >> >towards JUNGLE RAAJ.......
> >> >
> >> >   general public should oppose these demons.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >   one should not equate hindu & muslim terrorism because,
> >> >1) most of the times hindu terrorism is the 'reaction'- to muslim t.
> >> >2) moreover hindu terrorist will not 'partition' this country. (i hope
> >> >every
> >> >body remembers 1947)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: gowhar fazli
> >> > >To: Vedavati Jogi
> >> > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
> >> > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
> >> > >Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:59:30 -0800 (PST)
> >> > >
> >> > >Dear Vedavati Jogi I think the problem is precisely
> >> > >that the two kinds of terrorism are not spoken about
> >> > >equally in the same breath. Both Hindu and Muslim
> >> > >fundamentalism are similar except that the
> >> > >majoritarian fundamentalism gets mistaken as
> >> > >nationalism at times and can even come to power while
> >> > >Muslim fundamentalism is terrorism beyond doubt.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >--- Vedavati Jogi wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > in india, if you have to prove your secular
> >> > > > credentials, you have to curse
> >> > > > rss/bjp/vhp, you have to talk about gujrat
> >> > > > carnage(?) again & again....and
> >> > > > most importantly you have to remain tightlipped as
> >> > > > far as muslim terrorism
> >> > > > is concerned!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: Britta Ohm
> >> > > > >To: Clifton
> >> > > > >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal
> >> > > > harmony
> >> > > > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the
> >> > > > chief Minister
> >> > > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:06:24 +0100
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Dear Clifton,
> >> > > > >no irony here but sincere interest (as I'm not so
> >> > > > aware): do you mean
> >> > > > >the Kanataka-coalition government only, or does
> >> > > > "the role of this
> >> > > > >present coalition government in supporting and
> >> > > > promoting these
> >> > > > >activities of the Sangh Parivar" also refer to the
> >> > > > UPA? And if so, are
> >> > > > >there examples for this support you could name?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Britta
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Am 02.12.2006 um 15:27 schrieb Clifton:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Friends,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Most of you are aware of the Sangh Parivar's
> >> > > > attempts to destroy the
> >> > > > > > secular fabric in Karnataka by targeting the
> >> > > > Baba-Datta shrine on
> >> > > > > > Bababudangiri near Chikmagalur, a shrine that is
> >> > > > an example of
> >> > > > > > syncretic
> >> > > > > > traditions in the state, attracting people of
> >> > > > different faiths. You are
> >> > > > > > also aware of the role of this present coalition
> >> > > > government in
> >> > > > > > supporting and promoting these activities of the
> >> > > > Sangh Parivar. Now the
> >> > > > > > government has given permission to the Sangh
> >> > > > Parivar to conduct the
> >> > > > > > Shobha Yatra and about 300 activists of the
> >> > > > Karnataka Komu Souharda
> >> > > > > > Vedike who reached Chikmagalur to protest this
> >> > > > have been arrested today
> >> > > > > > (02.12.2006).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The Karnataka Komu Souharda Vedike, which is a
> >> > > > coalition of over 200
> >> > > > > > organizations working since 2002 to establish
> >> > > > communal harmony and to
> >> > > > > > fight against the agenda of communalism in
> >> > > > Karnataka, has through the
> >> > > > > > years exposed the Sangh Parivar's farcical
> >> > > > claims about the shrine,
> >> > > > > > thwarted their intentions and successfully
> >> > > > countered their agenda
> >> > > > > > through its ideology of aggressive secularism.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The Sangh Parivar has been targeting the shrine
> >> > > > on Bababudangiri with
> >> > > > > > the sole intention of destroying this tradition
> >> > > > in the name of
> >> > > > > > 'liberating' the shrine from Muslims. In order
> >> > > > to achieve their narrow
> >> > > > > > sectarian goal, they have been creating unwanted
> >> > > > disputes, putting up
> >> > > > > > historically untenable and legally unsubstantial
> >> > > > arguments. Further,
> >> > > > > > they have introduced previously non-existent
> >> > > > religious practices like
> >> > > > > > Datta-Mala Abhiyan, Shobha Yatra and Datta
> >> > > > Jayanthi celebrations every
> >> > > > > > year in the months of October, November and
> >> > > > December. It is obvious
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > their main purpose is neither religion nor faith
> >> > > > but to target the
> >> > > > > > Muslim community as 'outsiders' who are bent
> >> > > > on destroying the
> >> > > > >'Hindu'
> >> > > > > > tradition and culture.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > This year, the BJP has aligned with the Janata
> >> > > > Dal (S) to form a
> >> > > > > > coalition government which has thus far
> >> > > > supported the communal agenda
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > the Sangh Parivar. Clear evidence of this was
> >> > > > visible in the first week
> >> > > > > > of October during the communal violence in and
> >> > > > around Mangalore and in
> >> > > > > > Bababudangiri at the time of the Datta Mala
> >> > > > Abhiyan. In Bababudangiri,
> >> > > > > > the local BJP MLA, C.T. Ravi led the Sangh
> >> > > > Parivar activists in
> >> > > > > > performing rites in the shrine – in clear
> >> > > > violation of the High
> >> > > > >Court's
> >> > > > > > order.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > By contrast activists of the Komu Souharda
> >> > > > Vedike were arrested and
> >> > > > > > prevented from peacefully protesting and
> >> > > > exposing the communal designs
> >> > > > > > of the present Government. This action of the
> >> > > > present governement is
> >> > > > > > reprehensible and reaffirms the communal
> >> > > > credentials of the so –
> >> > > > >called
> >> > > > > > secular JD(S). We are particularly concerned
> >> > > > that this particular
> >> > > > > > action
> >> > > > > > of arresting secular activists and preventing
> >> > > > peaceful protests bodes
> >> > > > > > ill for the future of democracy in Karnataka
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > /We request you to write / phone / fax / email
> >> > > > the Chief Minister and
> >> > > > > > the Home Minister demanding the immediate
> >> > > > release of the arrested
> >> > > > > > activists. We also hope that you would state in
> >> > > > most certain terms your
> >> > > > > > unacceptance of such a communal agenda of this
> >> > > > government especially
> >> > > > > > with regard to Bababudangiri and the recent
> >> > > > Mangalore riots. /
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > /Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy/
> >> > > > > > /Ph: 2225 3414 / /22253424/
> >> > > > > > cm at kar.nic.in /
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > /Home Minister M.P. Prakash
> >> > > > > > Ph: 22251798
> >> > > > > > Internal Ph: 2092489
> >> > > > > > e-mail: homemin at vsb.kar.nic.in
> >> > > > /
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