[Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony activistsarrestedinKarnataka - Write in the the chief Minister

Tapas Ray t.ray at vsnl.com
Tue Dec 12 22:24:46 IST 2006 

Whoever thinks such touching expressions of Hindu-Muslim sisterhood is a 
joke, is a pseudo-secularist who needs his brain washed with Nirma of the 
plain, proletarian kind ... Sunlight or Surf won't do.


> is all this a joke ?
>
> On 12/12/06, Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> dear rahima,
>>
>> i don't hate you, i am a hindu, you are a muslim still we are sisters.
>>
>> i hate pseudo secularists & our politicians,
>>
>> they are creating gulf between you & me.
>>
>>
>> vedavati
>>
>>
>> >From: "Raheema Begum" <theunderscoredhood at gmail.com>
>> >To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
>> >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:40 +0530
>> >
>> >I'm not aggressive
>> >
>> >my view-point is not heard
>> >
>> >I have an axe to grind
>> >
>> >I'm not allowed to articulate what I feel
>> >
>> >I believe in Allah
>> >
>> >I dont want you to hate me.
>> >
>> >just let me be.
>> >
>> >I love you.
>> >
>> >
>> >On 12/12/06, Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>yes dear i agree with you fully.
>> >>
>> >>hindus partitioned india, poor muslims were forced to loot, kill or 
>> >>throw
>> >>hindus out of pakistan, rather i would like to say, hindus compelled
>> >>muslims
>> >>to indulge in these acts. then kashmir happened, history repeated, 
>> >>hindus
>> >>very happily became refugees in their own mother land.
>> >>
>> >>hindus have always been very aggressive, poor muslims were forced pull
>> >>down
>> >>thousands of temples in medieval india, same thing happened in kashmir.
>> >>hindus could not understand that ram mandir can be built only in 
>> >>secular
>> >>muslim countries like pakistan & bangladesh.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: jumana bandukwala <jumanab12 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> >> >To: Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
>> >> >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
>> >> >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>> >> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:39:08 +0000 (GMT)
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> >   This so called hindus with terrorist hindutva idealogy trying all
>> >> >possible way to tear apart the very secular democratic fabric of 
>> >> >India
>> >>and
>> >> >forced the other minority communities to take up arms against
>> >> >them.....first the saffron terrorists brigade killed father of the
>> >>nation,
>> >> >Gandhiji, strong exponent of secular India, then by taking useless 
>> >> >issue
>> >> >Ram janam bhoomi have have killed thousands of innocent muslims in
>> >>Gujarat,
>> >> >UP, Mumbai, Bengal, almost all over India and it is still 
>> >> >continue...and
>> >> >now they are so much radical that they even lynched low caste hindus
>> >>dead
>> >> >on petty issues, sometimes dalits were beaten to death, others they 
>> >> >were
>> >> >set on fire live and the like.
>> >> >   Now after all this fracas of the so called sefl proclaimed 
>> >> > guardian
>> >>of
>> >> >hindu...they are ought to plunge India into darkness of 
>> >> >superstitions,
>> >> >illiteracy, witchcraft, loot, fraud, in otherwords they are heading
>> >>India
>> >> >towards JUNGLE RAAJ.......
>> >> >
>> >> >   general public should oppose these demons.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >   one should not equate hindu & muslim terrorism because,
>> >> >1) most of the times hindu terrorism is the 'reaction'- to muslim t.
>> >> >2) moreover hindu terrorist will not 'partition' this country. (i 
>> >> >hope
>> >> >every
>> >> >body remembers 1947)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >From: gowhar fazli
>> >> > >To: Vedavati Jogi
>> >> > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal harmony
>> >> > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the chief Minister
>> >> > >Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:59:30 -0800 (PST)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Dear Vedavati Jogi I think the problem is precisely
>> >> > >that the two kinds of terrorism are not spoken about
>> >> > >equally in the same breath. Both Hindu and Muslim
>> >> > >fundamentalism are similar except that the
>> >> > >majoritarian fundamentalism gets mistaken as
>> >> > >nationalism at times and can even come to power while
>> >> > >Muslim fundamentalism is terrorism beyond doubt.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >--- Vedavati Jogi wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > in india, if you have to prove your secular
>> >> > > > credentials, you have to curse
>> >> > > > rss/bjp/vhp, you have to talk about gujrat
>> >> > > > carnage(?) again & again....and
>> >> > > > most importantly you have to remain tightlipped as
>> >> > > > far as muslim terrorism
>> >> > > > is concerned!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >From: Britta Ohm
>> >> > > > >To: Clifton
>> >> > > > >CC: reader-list at sarai.net
>> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Action Alert - Communal
>> >> > > > harmony
>> >> > > > >activistsarrested in Karnataka - Write in the the
>> >> > > > chief Minister
>> >> > > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:06:24 +0100
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Dear Clifton,
>> >> > > > >no irony here but sincere interest (as I'm not so
>> >> > > > aware): do you mean
>> >> > > > >the Kanataka-coalition government only, or does
>> >> > > > "the role of this
>> >> > > > >present coalition government in supporting and
>> >> > > > promoting these
>> >> > > > >activities of the Sangh Parivar" also refer to the
>> >> > > > UPA? And if so, are
>> >> > > > >there examples for this support you could name?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Britta
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Am 02.12.2006 um 15:27 schrieb Clifton:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Friends,
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Most of you are aware of the Sangh Parivar's
>> >> > > > attempts to destroy the
>> >> > > > > > secular fabric in Karnataka by targeting the
>> >> > > > Baba-Datta shrine on
>> >> > > > > > Bababudangiri near Chikmagalur, a shrine that is
>> >> > > > an example of
>> >> > > > > > syncretic
>> >> > > > > > traditions in the state, attracting people of
>> >> > > > different faiths. You are
>> >> > > > > > also aware of the role of this present coalition
>> >> > > > government in
>> >> > > > > > supporting and promoting these activities of the
>> >> > > > Sangh Parivar. Now the
>> >> > > > > > government has given permission to the Sangh
>> >> > > > Parivar to conduct the
>> >> > > > > > Shobha Yatra and about 300 activists of the
>> >> > > > Karnataka Komu Souharda
>> >> > > > > > Vedike who reached Chikmagalur to protest this
>> >> > > > have been arrested today
>> >> > > > > > (02.12.2006).
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > The Karnataka Komu Souharda Vedike, which is a
>> >> > > > coalition of over 200
>> >> > > > > > organizations working since 2002 to establish
>> >> > > > communal harmony and to
>> >> > > > > > fight against the agenda of communalism in
>> >> > > > Karnataka, has through the
>> >> > > > > > years exposed the Sangh Parivar's farcical
>> >> > > > claims about the shrine,
>> >> > > > > > thwarted their intentions and successfully
>> >> > > > countered their agenda
>> >> > > > > > through its ideology of aggressive secularism.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > The Sangh Parivar has been targeting the shrine
>> >> > > > on Bababudangiri with
>> >> > > > > > the sole intention of destroying this tradition
>> >> > > > in the name of
>> >> > > > > > 'liberating' the shrine from Muslims. In order
>> >> > > > to achieve their narrow
>> >> > > > > > sectarian goal, they have been creating unwanted
>> >> > > > disputes, putting up
>> >> > > > > > historically untenable and legally unsubstantial
>> >> > > > arguments. Further,
>> >> > > > > > they have introduced previously non-existent
>> >> > > > religious practices like
>> >> > > > > > Datta-Mala Abhiyan, Shobha Yatra and Datta
>> >> > > > Jayanthi celebrations every
>> >> > > > > > year in the months of October, November and
>> >> > > > December. It is obvious
>> >> > > > > > that
>> >> > > > > > their main purpose is neither religion nor faith
>> >> > > > but to target the
>> >> > > > > > Muslim community as 'outsiders' who are bent
>> >> > > > on destroying the
>> >> > > > >'Hindu'
>> >> > > > > > tradition and culture.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > This year, the BJP has aligned with the Janata
>> >> > > > Dal (S) to form a
>> >> > > > > > coalition government which has thus far
>> >> > > > supported the communal agenda
>> >> > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > the Sangh Parivar. Clear evidence of this was
>> >> > > > visible in the first week
>> >> > > > > > of October during the communal violence in and
>> >> > > > around Mangalore and in
>> >> > > > > > Bababudangiri at the time of the Datta Mala
>> >> > > > Abhiyan. In Bababudangiri,
>> >> > > > > > the local BJP MLA, C.T. Ravi led the Sangh
>> >> > > > Parivar activists in
>> >> > > > > > performing rites in the shrine – in clear
>> >> > > > violation of the High
>> >> > > > >Court's
>> >> > > > > > order.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > By contrast activists of the Komu Souharda
>> >> > > > Vedike were arrested and
>> >> > > > > > prevented from peacefully protesting and
>> >> > > > exposing the communal designs
>> >> > > > > > of the present Government. This action of the
>> >> > > > present governement is
>> >> > > > > > reprehensible and reaffirms the communal
>> >> > > > credentials of the so –
>> >> > > > >called
>> >> > > > > > secular JD(S). We are particularly concerned
>> >> > > > that this particular
>> >> > > > > > action
>> >> > > > > > of arresting secular activists and preventing
>> >> > > > peaceful protests bodes
>> >> > > > > > ill for the future of democracy in Karnataka
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > /We request you to write / phone / fax / email
>> >> > > > the Chief Minister and
>> >> > > > > > the Home Minister demanding the immediate
>> >> > > > release of the arrested
>> >> > > > > > activists. We also hope that you would state in
>> >> > > > most certain terms your
>> >> > > > > > unacceptance of such a communal agenda of this
>> >> > > > government especially
>> >> > > > > > with regard to Bababudangiri and the recent
>> >> > > > Mangalore riots. /
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > /Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy/
>> >> > > > > > /Ph: 2225 3414 / /22253424/
>> >> > > > > > cm at kar.nic.in /
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > /Home Minister M.P. Prakash
>> >> > > > > > Ph: 22251798
>> >> > > > > > Internal Ph: 2092489
>> >> > > > > > e-mail: homemin at vsb.kar.nic.in
>> >> > > > /
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