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[shaina a]

dear kshemendra,

Yes, what you quote was my reading of it.
Your conclusions are yours.

best
shaina


On 8/28/07, Kshmendra Kaul < kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Shaina
>
> 1. The provocation was in lashing out at Rashneek AFTER he appreciated
> your earlier mail. Let it be.
>
> 2. Where the films were watched and how they were obtained is of no
> consequence
>
> 3. What I would like to quote you on is your statement that "ALL
> the viewers... turned out to be SUPPORTIVE OF AZADI AND
> SELF-DETERMINATION FOR KASHMIR"
>
> Who needs Pakistan and Jihadis to wreck havoc in, destabilise and attack
> the Unity and Integrity of India. We have the likes of Shaina Anand, Ashok
> Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza, Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke,
> Nikhil Chopra to do it for the Pakistanis and Separatists. Well, according
> to Shaina Anand at least.
>
> Sanjay Kak has made a successful film. Yasin Malik and other "Azadi" and
> "hurriyat" separatists must be proud of him
>
>
> Kshmendra Kaul
>
>
>
> *shaina a <kalakamra at gmail.com> * wrote:
>
> dear Kshmendra,
>
> What am i provoking here? By providing a context to the transcript, I am
> lying about my desire to calm anxieties?
>
> Sure i can be quoted. But you will need  to maintain other facts:
>  That the said audience watched both The Human Tragedy by Ashok Pandit and
> Jashn-e-Azadi by Sanjay Kak.
> And they watched it in private, amongst friends, in their home.
> One film they downloaded in two parts from You tube
> and the other was a preview copy they acquired from a journalist in
> mumbai.
>
> best
> shaina
>
>
>
>
> On 8/28/07, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Shaina
> >
> > Rashneek thanked you for your earlier mail and called it a positive
> > step. The transcript you provided indeed had some interesting views being
> > expressed.
> >
> > But, you are intent on provoking further exchanges, arn't you Shaina?
> > Your earlier stated desire to "calm anxieties" was just a lie.
> >
> > My interest is right now centered over your statement:
> >
> > "..... all the viewers in the room (that watched the films) turned out
> > to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and self-determination for
> > Kashmir...."
> >
> > Shaina I presume you have no objection on being quoted that:
> >
> >  "According to Shaina Anand, she alongwith Ashok Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza,
> > Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke, Nikhil Chopra and all the
> > others present at the 15th Aug, 2007 screening of Sanjay Kak's film
> > Jashn-e-Azadi are 'supportive of azadi and self-determination for Kashmir"
> >
> >
> > Kshmendra Kaul
> >
> >
> >
> > *shaina a < kalakamra at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rashneek,
> >
> > If it is a positive step, then why are you so triumphant and committed
> > to
> > getting screenings of JeA stopped. For the past 3 days you've been going
> > on
> > about a tit for tat rhetoric that has moved from screening vs screening
> > to
> > making us (the few who are really bothering to digest all this bile)
> > imagine
> > vile and twisted role playing games.
> >
> > Just to get some facts straight, all the viewers in the room (that
> > watched
> > the films) turned out to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and
> > self-determination for Kashmir, the apathetic plight of Kashmiri Pandits
> >
> > portrayed in the first film, (and known to us) notwithstanding.
> >
> > 'Critical discussion' does not mean they hate the film and the
> > filmmaker.
> > They are individuals with a free will just like yours, and they are
> > engaging
> > in a conversation with the filmmaker. Try that you wont.
> >
> > Please do screen the film you chose to promote again and let others do
> > the
> > same. What is it you fear?
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/07, rashneek kher wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot Shaina.A postive step.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Rashneek
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, shaina a wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Ashok Pandit's the human tragedy (his earlier avatar of ...and the
> > world
> > > > remained silent) and
> > > > Sanjay Kaks jashn-e-azadi and were viewed as a "double-bill" by a
> > group
> > > > of
> > > > film enthusiasts recently,
> > > > on our 60th year of independence.
> > > >
> > > > The transcript of a broad and critical discussion that followed, is
> > > > here:
> > > > http://chitrakarkhana.kiberpipa.org/azadi/August15_2007_Kashmir.pdf
> > > >
> > > > We ofcourse encourage other people to do the same, to calm their
> > > > anxieties,
> > > > and to stop scoring empty points
> > > > by shouting. Soon, we hope, the internet and other worldly forces
> > will
> > > > make
> > > > these films broadly available.
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > > --
> > > > shaina
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> > > --
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> >
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