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Tue Aug 28 22:05:34 IST 2007

Dear  Ashok Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza, Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa
Phadke, Nikhil Chopra .

As so called intellectuals , I am shocked to learn that a movie made you go
againt your nations policy. Against , for what thousand of our soldiers have
given their life safeguarding against external threats ?

Just a ,movie made you do so ..................I am sure after watching
"Titanic" you all would have wished that all Big Ships should be banned . As
the Big Titanic had sunk..... After all James Cameron is so many light years
ahead in quality direction than this desperate director which made all of
you think of disecting a part of our country....

God Bless

On 8/28/07, shaina a <kalakamra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> dear kshemendra,
>
> Yes, what you quote was my reading of it.
> Your conclusions are yours.
>
> best
> shaina
>
>
> On 8/28/07, Kshmendra Kaul < kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Shaina
> >
> > 1. The provocation was in lashing out at Rashneek AFTER he appreciated
> > your earlier mail. Let it be.
> >
> > 2. Where the films were watched and how they were obtained is of no
> > consequence
> >
> > 3. What I would like to quote you on is your statement that "ALL
> > the viewers... turned out to be SUPPORTIVE OF AZADI AND
> > SELF-DETERMINATION FOR KASHMIR"
> >
> > Who needs Pakistan and Jihadis to wreck havoc in, destabilise and attack
> > the Unity and Integrity of India. We have the likes of Shaina Anand,
> Ashok
> > Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza, Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke,
> > Nikhil Chopra to do it for the Pakistanis and Separatists. Well,
> according
> > to Shaina Anand at least.
> >
> > Sanjay Kak has made a successful film. Yasin Malik and other "Azadi" and
> > "hurriyat" separatists must be proud of him
> >
> >
> > Kshmendra Kaul
> >
> >
> >
> > *shaina a <kalakamra at gmail.com> * wrote:
> >
> > dear Kshmendra,
> >
> > What am i provoking here? By providing a context to the transcript, I am
> > lying about my desire to calm anxieties?
> >
> > Sure i can be quoted. But you will need  to maintain other facts:
> >  That the said audience watched both The Human Tragedy by Ashok Pandit
> and
> > Jashn-e-Azadi by Sanjay Kak.
> > And they watched it in private, amongst friends, in their home.
> > One film they downloaded in two parts from You tube
> > and the other was a preview copy they acquired from a journalist in
> > mumbai.
> >
> > best
> > shaina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/07, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Shaina
> > >
> > > Rashneek thanked you for your earlier mail and called it a positive
> > > step. The transcript you provided indeed had some interesting views
> being
> > > expressed.
> > >
> > > But, you are intent on provoking further exchanges, arn't you Shaina?
> > > Your earlier stated desire to "calm anxieties" was just a lie.
> > >
> > > My interest is right now centered over your statement:
> > >
> > > "..... all the viewers in the room (that watched the films) turned out
> > > to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and self-determination for
> > > Kashmir...."
> > >
> > > Shaina I presume you have no objection on being quoted that:
> > >
> > >  "According to Shaina Anand, she alongwith Ashok Sukumaran, Saeed
> Mirza,
> > > Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke, Nikhil Chopra and all
> the
> > > others present at the 15th Aug, 2007 screening of Sanjay Kak's film
> > > Jashn-e-Azadi are 'supportive of azadi and self-determination for
> Kashmir"
> > >
> > >
> > > Kshmendra Kaul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *shaina a < kalakamra at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Rashneek,
> > >
> > > If it is a positive step, then why are you so triumphant and committed
> > > to
> > > getting screenings of JeA stopped. For the past 3 days you've been
> going
> > > on
> > > about a tit for tat rhetoric that has moved from screening vs
> screening
> > > to
> > > making us (the few who are really bothering to digest all this bile)
> > > imagine
> > > vile and twisted role playing games.
> > >
> > > Just to get some facts straight, all the viewers in the room (that
> > > watched
> > > the films) turned out to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and
> > > self-determination for Kashmir, the apathetic plight of Kashmiri
> Pandits
> > >
> > > portrayed in the first film, (and known to us) notwithstanding.
> > >
> > > 'Critical discussion' does not mean they hate the film and the
> > > filmmaker.
> > > They are individuals with a free will just like yours, and they are
> > > engaging
> > > in a conversation with the filmmaker. Try that you wont.
> > >
> > > Please do screen the film you chose to promote again and let others do
> > > the
> > > same. What is it you fear?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, rashneek kher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot Shaina.A postive step.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Rashneek
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/28/07, shaina a wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ashok Pandit's the human tragedy (his earlier avatar of ...and the
> > > world
> > > > > remained silent) and
> > > > > Sanjay Kaks jashn-e-azadi and were viewed as a "double-bill" by a
> > > group
> > > > > of
> > > > > film enthusiasts recently,
> > > > > on our 60th year of independence.
> > > > >
> > > > > The transcript of a broad and critical discussion that followed,
> is
> > > > > here:
> > > > >
> http://chitrakarkhana.kiberpipa.org/azadi/August15_2007_Kashmir.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > We ofcourse encourage other people to do the same, to calm their
> > > > > anxieties,
> > > > > and to stop scoring empty points
> > > > > by shouting. Soon, we hope, the internet and other worldly forces
> > > will
> > > > > make
> > > > > these films broadly available.
> > > > >
> > > > > best,
> > > > > --
> > > > > shaina
> > > > > chitrakarkhana.net
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> > > > --
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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