[Reader-list] reader-list Digest, Vol 48, Issue 23
S Fatima
sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in
Mon Jul 23 21:01:42 IST 2007
While one finds Yogi's justifications for the veil
unacceptable, it would also be utterly insensitive and
prejudiced to call it a "criminal looking black burqua
where you do not know what is inside that". What is
the crime of a woman who has been conditioned by her
family to wear it whenever she goes out. To call all
burqa-clad woman Islamic fundamentalist is like saying
that all women with bindis on forehead are members of
RSS. Let's be a little more sensitive.
Having said that, I refuse to accept the definition of
DIGNITY given by Mr.Sikand, and I refuse to wear a
burqa to liberate myself.
(and what is MRSG any way)
--- MRSG <mrsg at vsnl.com> wrote:
> Tapas Ray and similar apologists for Islamic
> fundamentalists would like to trivialise the issue
> by bringing the issue of Hindu women covering the
> heads. Though that is not similar to wearing
> criminal looking black burqua where you do not know
> what is inside that, putting the cloth on the head
> by the hindu women is equally bad. Secular Pratibha
> Patil does that, Communal Sushma Swaraj or
> Semi-communal Mamata Bannerjee do not. But how that
> comes into this discussion. No one supported that.
> Also the issue is not what Pratibha patil has said,
> the issue is how the the support for islamic
> fundamentalism is done through intellectual
> discourse and now also how it is suported by their
> apologists.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ratnesh shukla
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> It is beyond my comprehension how can one justify
> a burqa covered woman feeling liberated.Burqa indeed
> obstucts liberty of a woman's self expression.So far
> as non-discriminatory nature of burqa is concerned
> which abolishes class and other such identities I
> hope Mr Y Sikand would be similarly supporting such
> uniformities in other walks of life like housing ,
> food etc.Life is an extremely diverse thing in every
> field including clothing.Advocacy of uniformity in
> any field is advocacy of fascism.
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> 1. Kashmiri filmmaker Arun Kaul passes away
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> 2. Brouhaha Over the Veil (Yogi Sikand)
> 3. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (MRSG)
> 4. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (Ateya
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> 5. Re: Brouhaha Over the Veil (Vedavati Jogi)
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> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:20:52 +0530
> From: "Aditya Raj Kaul"
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> Subject: [Reader-list] Kashmiri filmmaker Arun
> Kaul passes away
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> *Kashmiri filmmaker Arun Kaul passes away*
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> New Delhi, July 21 (PTI): Noted Kashmiri
> filmmaker and screenplay writer
> Arun Kaul died here today after a prolonged
> illness.
>
> Kaul, 74, is survived by his wife and two sons.
> He breathed his last at the
> All India Institute of Medical Sciences this
> morning after being
> hospitalised for nearly a month.
>
> Kaul, who was running "Vyeth" (Kashmir name of
> river Jehlum) Television,
> shot into fame when his film "Diksha" won the
> best film award for the year
> 1992.
>
> He has been a screenplay assistant of veteran
> film maker Gulzar for the
> films 'Lekin' and 'Ijaazat' besides having
> written the screenplay for the
> film star-studed "Chandni" of Yash Chopra.
>
> He has also produced a film named "Ek Adhuri
> Kahani" directed by Mrinal Sen.
>
>
> His television documentary "Dharma Kshetra" won
> the NFDC Award in 1986.
>
> In mid 1990s, his production house, Vyeth
> Television, started "Kashmir File"
> on Doordarshan in which the excesses committed
> by militants were
> highlighted.
>
> The programme was closed after its anchor
> reporter, Saiuddin Shafi, was
> gunned down by militants in broad daylight for
> raising voice against the
> terrorists.
>
>
> *--
> Aditya Raj Kaul
> Blog: www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
> Website: www.adityarajkaul.tk*
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> Brouhaha Over the Veil
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> Yoginder Sikand
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> The controversy surrounding recently-nominated
> President Pratibha
> Patil's hotly contested statement on Muslims and
> the veil clearly
> illustrates how Muslim women's dress has become
> a central trope in
> contemporary discourses about Islam. Critics see
> the veil as
> 'obscurantist' and 'patriarchal', while its
> defenders regard it as
> protecting women from the oppressive male gaze.
> In this brouhaha over
> the veil, the fact that there is no single
> definition of it, that it
> has different meanings for different people and
> that what is
> considered to be normative Islamic women's
> attire varies across
> different Muslim ethnic groups and social
> classes is completely lost
> sight of. Further, the important distinctions
> between the veil, the
> burqa, the naqab and the hijab, all different
> forms of Muslim women's
> dress, are overlooked.
>
>
>
> Interestingly, the Quran does not lay down any
> particular form of
> clothing for men or indeed for women. It does
> not require Muslim women
> to cover their faces completely and remain
> confined at home, this
> being a custom that Muslims later took over from
> the Byzantine
> Christians. Instead, it talks about the need for
> both men and women to
> dress modestly. Modest appearance means that
> erogenous
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